Justice For Molly!
you people are stupid

West Frankfort, IL

#23 Aug 12, 2013
i didnt say she reached her right hand around to the left side of her head , i said she could have used her left hand.
you people are stupid

West Frankfort, IL

#24 Aug 12, 2013
Scott

United States

#25 Aug 12, 2013
If I had someone kill themselves and I knew I would be a suspect MY FIRST CALL WOULD be to my attorney... Any person.who would call 911 first is a fool.
dickinthemouth

Chicago, IL

#26 Aug 12, 2013
Him wrote:
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Why don't you post all the facts, not just the side that makes it look real good for your crusade? Everything that JFM is sharing is so one sided.
Hi Richie!
Lol

United States

#27 Aug 14, 2013
dickinthemouth wrote:
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Hi Richie!
What an idiot you are. Anyone who disagrees with you is Richie? There are a bunch of us who do NOT share your warped opinions.
confused by most of it

Fort Scott, KS

#28 Aug 16, 2013
HamBurger wrote:
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The State's Attorney has to prove he shot her beyond a reasonable doubt. I don't know whether he killed her or not but none of the facts you cite prove anything close to guilt beyond a reasonable doubt. The fact that she was right handed but was shot on the left side of the head doesn't "prove" someone else shot her unless she had a withered and unfunctioning left hand. A defense attorney could also explain the lack of gunpowder residue and fingerprints. Fingerprints are often, even most often, not left on a gun The oils in cleaning solutions typically render guns a hard item to leave a fingerprint on. The attorney could also explain the lack of gunpowder residue as being the result of the passage of a few hours or as even the result of the presence of any blood on her hands. Some of the facts you cite are also inherently contradictory in terms of actually proving anything. For example, if he waited 4 hours to call 911, why does it matter that the police allowed him to wash his hands after they got there? Was his water not working until the police arrived? Wouldn't he have had an opportunity to wash his hands before the police arrived? Also, why wouldn't they allow him to "change his blood covered pants?"How were the police supposed to take them into evidence if he was wearing them? Plus, if the 4 hour delay means anything useful, then why wouldn't he have changed out of the pants already? Why wouldn't he have burned them? Plus, if he used his time to hide evidence by wiping the gun as you suggest, then why'd he leave the bloody pants on? The fact he called an attorney real quickly is, I agree, very damning. It's the sort of thing probably only a cop or an attorney would do. But even though it's damning, it can't be used against him in court. His subsequent refusal to cooperate also cannot be used against him in court. The Miranda decision prohibits it. The problem is...the prosecutor has to come up with an account of what happened and prove that beyond a reasonable doubt. I don't see how they can do that. And that's not even addressing the allegations the defense would be able to bring forth that she was suicidal and had even expressed an intent to kill herself that very evening.
I can see both sides being true but I just don't know. I don't wanna place blame but he looks guilty as hell but he has also not shared his side other than he didn't hear the gun go off. Everything the j4m group says and questions also can be explained or isn't totally unheard of...her father released yesterday she had an abortion a few weeks before this...if she can kill a defensless baby what's so different in his chose to kill her after she killed what was his child
that one guy

Harrisburg, IL

#29 Aug 16, 2013
A man looking for justice for his daughter. Would a whole group of officers agree to help keep a co-worker out of jail? I don't know. Would a dispatcher know the routine the police go through during a murder investigation and be able to cover it up so it looks like a suicide? Or is it a combination of both?
Investigations into the murder or suicide deaths occur all the time, why don't the experts (and I'm not talking about the ISP) take action over the investigation to determine the cause of death? Those are my questions.
confused by most of it

Highlandville, MO

#30 Aug 16, 2013
confused by most of it wrote:
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I can see both sides being true but I just don't know. I don't wanna place blame but he looks guilty as hell but he has also not shared his side other than he didn't hear the gun go off. Everything the j4m group says and questions also can be explained or isn't totally unheard of...her father released yesterday she had an abortion a few weeks before this...if she can kill a defensless baby what's so different in his chose to kill her after she killed what was his child
I got cut off but maybe that was a reasoning for why? There's so much that still hasn't been released to the public or spoken about by a certain someone...I'm not sure we will ever truely know what happened if someone doesn't speak...

“Common sense isn't common”

Since: Dec 12

Sesser IL

#31 Aug 17, 2013
HHKC wrote:
Do any of you know how many murders have been framed in Franklin co in the last 30 years??? Or people accused of something and before they can go to court and tell what they know they "kill there self"?????? look into that before you waste your time thinking your going to get something done in franklin co....
Carbondale is in Jackson County, not Franklin.
Hum

Springfield, MO

#32 Aug 17, 2013
Scott wrote:
If I had someone kill themselves and I knew I would be a suspect MY FIRST CALL WOULD be to my attorney... Any person.who would call 911 first is a fool.
99.9 percent of the population would call 911 first. Calling an attorney first looks like you have something to hide. If I was in a car accident that someone dies in I'm sure not calling a lawyer first. Think about that.
others

Marion, IL

#33 Aug 18, 2013
There have been other murders happen in Franklin county that have been covered up and not investigated properly. One happened in Zeigler a few years ago. The man was 30 years old and an autopsy was not even done. This town is good at covering up things when someone with money or a well known name is involved.
Jam

Carmi, IL

#34 Aug 18, 2013
Man in Zeigler? Jack??
Mmmm

United States

#35 Aug 18, 2013
His attorney and parents were called after 911. The attorney and parents met Richie at the police dept. his parents and attorney got there before ISP. Molly had gun powder residue on her left should and right cuff of her sleeve. If you were to hold a gun with both hands and pull the trigger with your right thumb, it doesn't seem uncomfortable. For Richie to shoot her at that angle, as he was already shorter than her, he would have to have been standing on the bed or her on her knees... Well her legs weren't under her so she was probably standing. If he was on the bed how was the gun so close to her head and why didn't she smack him away ? You'd think it'd be pretty hard to shoot someone while you're drink trying to balance on a bed and they're trying to avoid getting shot....

“Common sense isn't common”

Since: Dec 12

Sesser IL

#36 Aug 19, 2013
others wrote:
There have been other murders happen in Franklin county that have been covered up and not investigated properly. One happened in Zeigler a few years ago. The man was 30 years old and an autopsy was not even done. This town is good at covering up things when someone with money or a well known name is involved.
This incident did not occur in Franklin County.
JFM

Foley, AL

#37 Aug 20, 2013
Mmmm wrote:
His attorney and parents were called after 911. The attorney and parents met Richie at the police dept. his parents and attorney got there before ISP. Molly had gun powder residue on her left should and right cuff of her sleeve. If you were to hold a gun with both hands and pull the trigger with your right thumb, it doesn't seem uncomfortable. For Richie to shoot her at that angle, as he was already shorter than her, he would have to have been standing on the bed or her on her knees... Well her legs weren't under her so she was probably standing. If he was on the bed how was the gun so close to her head and why didn't she smack him away ? You'd think it'd be pretty hard to shoot someone while you're drink trying to balance on a bed and they're trying to avoid getting shot....
I believe his parents were at the apartment then they made it the police statin before the ISP. And what difference does it make how tall RM is if he had her down on her knees on the floor or laying on the floor with the gun to her head. That's the dumbest thing ive ever heard is he was shorter than her. And you know how her legs were because he had moved the body... by his own admission.
JFM

Foley, AL

#38 Aug 20, 2013
*you don't know how her legs were......
JusticeforMolly

Festus, MO

#39 Aug 21, 2013
HamBurger wrote:
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The State's Attorney has to prove he shot her beyond a reasonable doubt. I don't know whether he killed her or not but none of the facts you cite prove anything close to guilt beyond a reasonable doubt. The fact that she was right handed but was shot on the left side of the head doesn't "prove" someone else shot her unless she had a withered and unfunctioning left hand. A defense attorney could also explain the lack of gunpowder residue and fingerprints. Fingerprints are often, even most often, not left on a gun The oils in cleaning solutions typically render guns a hard item to leave a fingerprint on. The attorney could also explain the lack of gunpowder residue as being the result of the passage of a few hours or as even the result of the presence of any blood on her hands. Some of the facts you cite are also inherently contradictory in terms of actually proving anything. For example, if he waited 4 hours to call 911, why does it matter that the police allowed him to wash his hands after they got there? Was his water not working until the police arrived? Wouldn't he have had an opportunity to wash his hands before the police arrived? Also, why wouldn't they allow him to "change his blood covered pants?"How were the police supposed to take them into evidence if he was wearing them? Plus, if the 4 hour delay means anything useful, then why wouldn't he have changed out of the pants already? Why wouldn't he have burned them? Plus, if he used his time to hide evidence by wiping the gun as you suggest, then why'd he leave the bloody pants on? The fact he called an attorney real quickly is, I agree, very damning. It's the sort of thing probably only a cop or an attorney would do. But even though it's damning, it can't be used against him in court. His subsequent refusal to cooperate also cannot be used against him in court. The Miranda decision prohibits it. The problem is...the prosecutor has to come up with an account of what happened and prove that beyond a reasonable doubt. I don't see how they can do that. And that's not even addressing the allegations the defense would be able to bring forth that she was suicidal and had even expressed an intent to kill herself that very evening.
But you just put very good questions into your own head!! Now if YOU know the rest of the FACTS that you can help solve this then PLEASE SHARE so we can FINALLY hear the other side of it!!
JusticeforMolly

Festus, MO

#40 Aug 21, 2013
Oh and dip shits the 6 jurors for the inquisition also said it was NOT SUICIDE THAT IS HOW THEY RULED IT UNDETERMINED WHICH MEANS NO PROOF THAT RICHIE IS INNOCENT EITHER!!! LOW IQ'S I understand!!!
who is hiding something

Herrin, IL

#41 Aug 21, 2013
I was in the jfm group. Until posts started being deleted while talking about Molly's journals. That to me showed "the family" had something to hide, so read it all again. They weren't there for her when she was living. However now that she's dead they love her so much.
I don't buy that. And they are getting lots of money donated....even without their non profit thing. They remind me of the Alexanders only wanted to love and honor their "family" after death.
I don't believe it was suicide. But I also don't believe everyone was there for her until she wad dead. Justice for Molly!!! But the family shouldn't profit from her death.
private fly

Carmi, IL

#43 Aug 22, 2013
Re; if your a police office, you KNOW washing your hands destroys evidence. and the gap in time line from T.O.D. to the 911 call was a wide gap. To many things that stand out in this case. Even as a neutral party with no bias.

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