Washington County BOCC Up to Its Same...

Washington County BOCC Up to Its Same Old Tricks

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Not surprised

Chipley, FL

#1 Sep 12, 2010
I guess the more things change, the more they stay the same. After many years of employment with Washington County, the current EMS Director is retiring in October. I just checked the "current job openings" list on the County's website and noticed a listing for EMS Director. However, only internal applicants (current county employees) are open to apply, proving the "good ol' boy" system" is alive and well. We are blessed to have well-trained, highly qualified men and women working for Washington County EMS, but is it too much to ask to hire the most-qualified, not just best-connected applicant?

“Wake-Up Citizens”

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#2 Sep 12, 2010
Like I said in another thread.. "it is not a matter of what you know, but rather, WHO you know". It really does make all the difference in the world. So, with that type of setup going on, it would be nice to see the un'connected'(or unwashed) remind those that are 'connected' that the ones in public offices of trust are 'servants' of those that are not 'connected'. But geee... from what I have seen during the past 40+ years, is the fact that the unconnected are afraid to open their mouthes to those that are in office... Did the private men and women forget who they are? The private men and women are the BOSS.. not the otherway around.
cant win

Panama City, FL

#3 Sep 13, 2010
and you think thats so farfetched? Companies all the time promote from within Those who are retiring train who they feel are the most qualified to take over when retirement comes. I think its great someone from Washington County who knows the ropes and how EMS works is taking over. EMS is one of the most profitable areas in the county. They have a good thing going and people there are happy. You people would bitch and moan if they tried to bring someone in from the outside wondering why a local person wasn't selected. Get a job and a life and stop looking for something to start crap over.
Just wondering

Grandy, MN

#4 Sep 13, 2010
Why not a Fire/EMS Chief? Someone that is a FF2 and experienced in EMS, we have local people working in Jackson & Walton Counties that have the qualifications.

“Wake-Up Citizens”

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#5 Sep 13, 2010
cant win wrote:
and you think thats so farfetched? Companies all the time promote from within Those who are retiring train who they feel are the most qualified to take over when retirement comes. I think its great someone from Washington County who knows the ropes and how EMS works is taking over. EMS is one of the most profitable areas in the county. They have a good thing going and people there are happy. You people would bitch and moan if they tried to bring someone in from the outside wondering why a local person wasn't selected. Get a job and a life and stop looking for something to start crap over.
I love it when people, such as yourself, write statements that in essence are an admission and complimentary to the claims that have been posted regarding the County Government being nothing more than a 'corporation'(in this case you used the term "Companies" instead of "corporation"). It is, in FACT then (at least according to the comparison you have established) a place of 'business' and not necessarily a 'government of the people'. Thank you for that supportive comment.

Now the big question. Is that Corporation known as 'Washington County' a "private" or "public" company? In either case, who is the owner of record? Where are the Articles of Incorporation? Where is the state requirred Business License? There are many other questions that need to be addressed on this issue but those above will do for starters.
go away

Chipley, FL

#6 Sep 13, 2010
Abe, go talk to Panamed. You two have started a post between the two of you and thats all anyone can ask for. You and he have lots to say. SAY IT TO EACH OTHER. The rest of us dont care to hear you and most refuse to read your postings. Please go play with Panamed.

“Wake-Up Citizens”

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#7 Sep 13, 2010
Your expression is ever so typical of someone that is complacent and content with the way things are. You are satisfied that the government (other men and women) can tell you what is best for you, you are satisfied that those same men and women are taking your hard earned money under the illusion created by the empty promises that they gave to you, you are not concerned that other men and women are stripping you of your rights and are demanding that you put forth more effort in supporting their whims and caprices.

So, in FACT, because you "Don't Care", then why do you even bother making any kind of expression regarding the matter? Is it perhaps because you honestly believe that those other people KNOW better than you what is right and good for your life? Are you that much in need of having someone be your spokesperson? You might want to re-evaluate your current situation. Just a suggestion. However, as for me going away... no! that is something that you will do, because you no-longer support the Constitution of the United States in allowing people to exercise their rights under the first amendment... you remember....'FREE SPEECH'.
pro bono

Chipley, FL

#8 Sep 13, 2010
cant win wrote:
and you think thats so farfetched? Companies all the time promote from within Those who are retiring train who they feel are the most qualified to take over when retirement comes. I think its great someone from Washington County who knows the ropes and how EMS works is taking over. EMS is one of the most profitable areas in the county. They have a good thing going and people there are happy. You people would bitch and moan if they tried to bring someone in from the outside wondering why a local person wasn't selected. Get a job and a life and stop looking for something to start crap over.
Big difference in private companies and government agencies. Private companies can make up their rules as they go along. Government agencies have personnel policies that MUST be adhered to.

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#9 Sep 13, 2010
pro bono wrote:
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Big difference in private companies and government agencies. Private companies can make up their rules as they go along. Government agencies have personnel policies that MUST be adhered to.
With a screen name such as "pro bono" am I to presume that you are an attorney is offering a 'pro bono' service to the community, or am I to presume that you are a private citizen who is practicing law without a license by making a representation that you are conducting such an attorney related practice?

Be the above as it may: Is it not true that the legislature for the state of florida have granted to the various agencies of governmnt the responsibility to promulgate various rules and regulations that are in accord with Laws for this state? Do such rules and regulations which have been promulgated have the force and effect of law? What part of society is impacted by the promulgation of such rules/regulations/codes? Is a so-called private corporation enacted through the laws of this state also a subordinate part of the state function? Why do public buildings such as some court houses have signage in front of their property which reads "Customer Parking"? Who is the "Customer" of such an established place of 'business'? Please answer all of the above questions with specificity.

“Wake-Up Citizens”

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#10 Sep 13, 2010
pro bono wrote:
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Big difference in private companies and government agencies. Private companies can make up their rules as they go along. Government agencies have personnel policies that MUST be adhered to.
In addition to my previous post:

You mention the fact that the agencies "have personnel policies that MUST be adhered to." These 'policies' that you reference, are they not also to be construed as "Public Policy"? Very important question. Please answer that question with specificity.

“Wake-Up Citizens”

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#11 Sep 13, 2010
Here is an example of government acting as a 'business'....

http://floridajail4judges.org/counties/Desoto...

scroll down to the headline..
"County Officials Claim Courts Are A Private Enterprise"
voter

Warwick, RI

#12 Sep 13, 2010
Don't feed the troll

“Wake-Up Citizens”

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#13 Sep 13, 2010
voter wrote:
Don't feed the troll
Thank you for the flattery.

Troll =
"troll (tr&#333;l)

noun
Scand. Folklore any of a race of supernatural beings, variously conceived of as giants or dwarfs, living underground or in caves"

I simply love it when people, acting through carelessness or plain old ignorance, attribute to me powers that I don't like to brag about. I mean like WOW... a "supernatural being"... THANK YOU for that recognition.
Mr Clyde Bumbgardner

United States

#14 Sep 13, 2010
I think you are correct.

“Wake-Up Citizens”

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#15 Sep 13, 2010
Mr Clyde Bumbgardner wrote:
I think you are correct.
Hey Clyde: Good to see you back on the forum.. It has been a while, but I have been absent for a bit myself, so we probably just passed one another in our going and coming. So, hopefully, this finds you in good health and in good spirit.
wow

Santa Clara, CA

#16 Sep 13, 2010
insight into "probono" I've heard that this is a person who is a resident of washington county, but works for an attorney in Alabama, as a secretary. Gives out "probono" advice all over topics, I for one would check the regs for myself before believing anything she posts.
Mr Clyde Bumbgardner

United States

#17 Sep 13, 2010
Yes My Friend...and THANKS for the good words.

“Wake-Up Citizens”

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#18 Sep 13, 2010
wow wrote:
insight into "probono" I've heard that this is a person who is a resident of washington county, but works for an attorney in Alabama, as a secretary. Gives out "probono" advice all over topics, I for one would check the regs for myself before believing anything she posts.
"I've heard"... Absolute evidence of a hear say nature. If this were a court of law, it would also be considered as inadmissable evidence. But this is not a court of law, so the most that can be attributed to those things that you have 'heard', would be the labeling of such things as idle gossip. Gossip of that type can lead to severe problems for the people to whom they are concerning. Thank you for your interest in this matter, but we do not need gossip.. we need facts... Not FACTS to condemn 'pro bono' but facts to show where the People are lacking in their duty to defend the Constitution and to stand as a guardian over the works of government... we must be vigilant in our pursuit of maintaining freedom from oppressive government.
wow

Santa Clara, CA

#19 Sep 13, 2010
Kudos to you in your effort to exude yourself, apparently, believe this to be fact, but won't bother to elaborate further as this seems to be just something else to argue about, moving on, thanks for your comment. When she comes back you can argue with her. jmo

“Wake-Up Citizens”

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#20 Sep 13, 2010
wow wrote:
Kudos to you in your effort to exude yourself, apparently, believe this to be fact, but won't bother to elaborate further as this seems to be just something else to argue about, moving on, thanks for your comment. When she comes back you can argue with her. jmo
You want more elaboration? I presume you are wanting more elaboration on the subject of UPL? Or is there some other point in which you desire elaboration.

In the event you are referencing the UPL (Unlicensed Practice of Law) issue, then read here and get your own understanding:
http://www.law.cornell.edu/ethics/fl/narr/FL_...

Scroll down till you get to this point:
"5.3:300 Duty to Control Nonlawyer Assistants" , and continue on into the next section....

Like I said, I am not an attorney and therefore you can either get your own understanding of these laws else you need to consult with an attorney .... which you are seemingly trying to force me into a position of making some sort of representation... Tooo Bad...Check with the Florida Bar and their referral service and find yourself an attorney to answer your questions for you.

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