A Homeless Shelter for Chillicothe
Jack Handy

Kansas City, MO

#21 Feb 5, 2010
Chelle Jenx wrote:
beyfriend shuold be *boyfriend*
How does correcting someones spelling further the discussion? Yes I saw it also but it's not necessary to spell it correctly to convey a point. Lets try to stay on task it will further the discussion and we may all learn something by debating it. When I was younger I constantly corrected peoples pronunciation. It just made me look like a jackass.
Penny Less

Kansas City, MO

#22 Feb 5, 2010
Conserned Citizen wrote:
Well my church don't make a bunch of money. I ain't going to say where, but I don't want any other crazy churches doing it. i mean they would try to make them beleive in all kinds of wrong stuff. and the govrnment doesn't know how to run anything. I don't want no govrnment ran home with bums running everywhere. Why can't the all just go to KC where they are welcomed. My cousin had some hard times and we tryed to take care of him, but he didn't work cause no jobs. He moved to kc couple years ago and i'm sure his ok. everbody likes to drink here at the bars sometimes, it don't mean we are homeless.
You just may want to pay more attention to your preacher in church on Sunday. Does that make you feel good to judge people that may be less fortunate than yourself. I'll guess that you have never been even close to being homeless.
I with my wife and three children had less than five dollars to our name one week, one mistake and we would have been there with nowhere to go and nothing to eat.
Think b 4 u Speak about something you know NOTHING about.
Jester

United States

#23 Feb 6, 2010
Jack Handy wrote:
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How does correcting someones spelling further the discussion? Yes I saw it also but it's not necessary to spell it correctly to convey a point. Lets try to stay on task it will further the discussion and we may all learn something by debating it. When I was younger I constantly corrected peoples pronunciation. It just made me look like a jackass.
She was correcting her own spelling, which I find commendable.
And I'm sure you looked like a jackass then and still do today for many many reasons, not just that one.
haha

Kansas City, MO

#24 Feb 6, 2010
Jester wrote:
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She was correcting her own spelling, which I find commendable.
And I'm sure you looked like a jackass then and still do today for many many reasons, not just that one.
Winner congrats now your a jackass also
chillicothe citizen

Fairview, MT

#25 Feb 6, 2010
there are great events to help citizens of chillicothe available. Every month there is a huge food pantry just off the square, and the church that is involved is doing that to help. They aren't stuffing garbage down your throat, just love and necessities. There is another church that offers free meals, there are many non church citizens that if asked would give you the shirt off their back. Chillicothe is a very loving community that takes care of it own. The fact that we don't see homeless people hanging out in the alleys shows that atleast they have a place to go. Is the local problem really so serious as to need to convert the old prison and bring in homeless to care for from all over the state? Build it and they will come....by the thousands.
chillicothe citizen

San Antonio, TX

#26 Feb 6, 2010
I reckon I should clarify that I am not a church attender period, I do however appreciate the help out there if needed. I have been to get a helping hand when I needed it for my children to have dinner before bed, and the next month we were doing it on our own again. We are considered working poor, but my husband and I work the best we can to provide for our children. Not all people who need help are on drugs or alcohol or other welfare programs. It takes alot to pay house payments, medical insurance, and feed two pre-teen boys, only the tip of the iceburg.

“Just Think of Duck Sauce ”

Since: Oct 09

Where the Green Grass Grows

#27 Feb 6, 2010
Conserned Citizen wrote:
Well my church don't make a bunch of money. I ain't going to say where, but I don't want any other crazy churches doing it. i mean they would try to make them beleive in all kinds of wrong stuff. and the govrnment doesn't know how to run anything. I don't want no govrnment ran home with bums running everywhere. Why can't the all just go to KC where they are welcomed. My cousin had some hard times and we tryed to take care of him, but he didn't work cause no jobs. He moved to kc couple years ago and i'm sure his ok. everbody likes to drink here at the bars sometimes, it don't mean we are homeless.
Homeless shelters are usually operated by a non-profit agency or a municipal agency, or are associated with a church. Many get at least part of their funding from local government entities. Other shelters however, base their practice on empowerment models, where instead of "warehousing clients", they empower "participants" to become agents in their own futures and destinies.

Such models tend to focus on assisting participants to access their rights whilst fulfilling their responsibilities as citizens. Sometimes this includes contributing financially towards the provision of the shelters they are residing in

Notice conserned said "My cousin had some hard times and we tryed to take care of him, but he didn't work cause no jobs. He moved to kc couple years ago and i'm sure his ok"
Iam sure and i KNOW are two dif things..i take it they dont actualy know their cousin is doing fine. Just hoping

conserned is even biased against other curches."crazy" one i might add. So the only people they think are fit for being around go to their church and thats the end of that disscussion.Everyone else in this town are crazies
TJones

United States

#28 Feb 6, 2010
I am sorry for whoever posted this comment and I truly do not believe that the people of Chillicothe could be so small minded as to believe that homeless people are "drunks who do not have jobs." Chillicothe has a homeless issue and it is our responsibility to deal with it. The homeless population are not necessarily out there living on the street or under the bridge; they are people who have worked hard all their lives but for medical reasons or other reasons could not meet the mortgage payment for the home they have been buying for 20 years. The homeless people are single mothers who have children and have been left behind but the husband or father, left with bills she could not possibly meet and no transportation to do so because the "man" has taken the car and whatever was in the bank account. Fathers who are trying to raise a family without the mother or a man/woman who works hard and all of the money goes to child support that they cannot afford an apartment to live in so they can meet their obligations; too many reasons to even start. Our homeless consist of people that live with friends and family from week to week and when they wear out their welcome are booted out without a thought. I was sitting in GHCAA a few months ago when a couple of about late 50's to early 60's came in and were sitting there, they were homeless as they had lost their house due to layoffs and medical expenses they could not cover, were they stinky, drunk people who did not work-NO! Do not judge what you do not understand. I and so many others in this community applaud the hard work that the many organizations, churches, coalitions, and businesses do for this community-donations, hands on labor/volunteering, clothing, food and support are all necessary and appreciated and yet to say that a shelter would encourage them to be homeless and that we don't need them here and then to say in the same sentence we can take care of our own...I am sorry but these people are our own, they are our mothers, fathers, sisters, brothers, nieces, nephews, and our own children.
TJones

United States

#29 Feb 6, 2010
Continued-The homeless people did not pick Chillicothe and decide that they would live here with nothing, no they were already here, so let us take care of our own and let us do what needs to be done to provide a temporary shelter for families and let us give them the resources needed to find that job or go to school and connect them with the people that can do counseling or Building Strong Families workshops and Life Skill training. Is that so hard? Not every person is blessed with a family that is supportive and not every family has the money or even sometimes the coping skills needed to overcome these obstacles and that is where the community steps in and utilizes the resources we have such as Green Hills Community Action Agency, Livingston County C2000, MU Extension, YMCA, HighView Baptist Church Food Pantry, Cornerstones Food Distribution and all of the other organizations and churches that do so much for our people. Please I am asking you to open your mind and heart and see that stereotyping people does not solve the problem it only perpetuates it. God Bless those that help themselves and those that give of themselves to help others. I would also like to bring attention to the fact that the inmates at the womens prison have a long history of contributing to our community in ways that many people do not know. The prison has a Restorative Justice program that makes quilts to be donated for raffles or to hospitals and childrens homes, they also make mittens, scarves, and hats for the children as well as crocheted stuffed animals for them as presents. There are several prison groups that hold annual fundraisers inside the prison that the money is donated to the community in various ways such as to the Salvation Army or to the Women's Shelter. These monetary and clothing donations are by no means of meager amounts and I feel as though these women should be recognized for their contributions. Missouri Reentry is another program and Chillicothe has P.A.S.T. which assists offenders reintegrating into our community and before I get negative comments in regards to this issue...these too are our people. People make mistakes and it is for those that have paid the consequences need the opportunity to have a positive productive life and it too is up to us. It is better to have been a mentor and led this person on a bright future so that they may be a benefit to our community rather than let them fall and eventually fail only to become a burden on our already overtaxed system...who is at fault then?
A person never knows what tomorrow brings and until you have walked a mile in another mans shoes you can never know what guided them to where they are.
In regard to an earlier comment about the Womens Shelter...the shelter is there to protect and provide a safe haven for victims of domestic violence and children, that is what the funding that provides the means to cover the costs associated with the running of the shelter and related costs...it is not funded as a homeless shelter and therefor they cannot accept homeless people into the shelter and the community needs to understand that the Shelter staff provides the best possible protection and services all done by dedicated women who do not work just 8-5 they work endlessly and alot of it is on their own time and is done selfishly. Please know that it is easy to sit and do nothing it is when we step up to do what needs to be done that resistance is met.
TJones

United States

#30 Feb 6, 2010
I meant selflessly in the last paragraph.
nickel and dime

Kansas City, MO

#31 Feb 6, 2010
John, you are a racist. Yep, you single out a poor black nation and say, send no money.

Do you not see that they are different levels of need?

Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs: food, clothing, shelter, sex...

So these Haitians have no food, only the clothes on their back and not shelter and you single them out to not help so you can give the money to Chillicothe's white people, people who have or can get food, clothing and shelter??

Whoa here John, you've went too far LEFT!

Yes left, because the left wants government to take care of everything and if the church people leave Haiti, then government is all that's left.

Have a heart, John, there are little kids over there.

Now take your atheist heart down to the bank and draw out some of that moldey ole money and send them poor people some money.

They are so far down the totem pole they cannot possibly help themselves, AND there are children involved.

You is one hard hearted ole bruiser.

“Just Think of Duck Sauce ”

Since: Oct 09

Where the Green Grass Grows

#32 Feb 6, 2010
T jones! you hit the nail on the head!!!!!Bravo!
Oh and if i wanna correct my own statement then I will ...

Since: Nov 09

United States

#33 Feb 7, 2010
nickel and dime wrote:
John, you are a racist. Yep, you single out a poor black nation and say, send no money.
Do you not see that they are different levels of need?
Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs: food, clothing, shelter, sex...
So these Haitians have no food, only the clothes on their back and not shelter and you single them out to not help so you can give the money to Chillicothe's white people, people who have or can get food, clothing and shelter??
Whoa here John, you've went too far LEFT!
Yes left, because the left wants government to take care of everything and if the church people leave Haiti, then government is all that's left.
Have a heart, John, there are little kids over there.
Now take your atheist heart down to the bank and draw out some of that moldey ole money and send them poor people some money.
They are so far down the totem pole they cannot possibly help themselves, AND there are children involved.
You is one hard hearted ole bruiser.
Whoa buddy, lets not turn this into a racial isssue, its not. I said nothing about giving money to the "white people of Chillicothe". Heres a news flash for you: THERE ARE BLACK PEOPLE IN CHILLICOTHE TOO! You are an idiot.

I'll be damned if im going to send my money over seas when there are people right here that could use our help. Im sorry for the people over there and their earthquakes, but we have earthquakes in the USA too, and hurricanes. Remember New Orleans a few years ago? How many other countrys sent money over here to help the people down there? None.

Its time the United States started helping their own people and stop being the worlds savior!
chillicothe citizen

United States

#34 Feb 7, 2010
I soooo agree with Johnn. We need to take care of our own, no one else will do it. When we are naked and hungry, who do you think is gonna help the U.S?
Conserned Citizen

United States

#35 Feb 7, 2010
you'all are funny. All you guys do is talk about helpin. You can't preach your ideas at me anymore. From where I see it, your doing as much as me. I don't see no shelter. i don't see no fund raiser for helpin Chillicothese. If nobody's doin nothing, than either there ain't no problem, or there ain't nobody caring to get it done. That one fella tjones said about all them places that are helping. He sounds like a smart black man that knows where people can get a hand out. So whats all this about if nobody is needing help, why should we care if nobody is helpin. You'all are just like me, you work and just try to keep your head above water. I don't have enough to give, and those that do ain't listening anyway.
Jack Handy

Kansas City, MO

#36 Feb 7, 2010
Chelle Jenx wrote:
T jones! you hit the nail on the head!!!!!Bravo!
Oh and if i wanna correct my own statement then I will ...
First my apology's i thought someone was correcting you. I missed the author of the post(you). Very sorry, i thought you had something thoughtful to post and i didn't mind the mistakes.
T Jones

United States

#37 Feb 7, 2010
Thank you for appreciating my comment in regard to the homeless situation. I would like to respond to Concerned Citizen from Kansas City-I am a very intelligent White Woman who not only knows what resources Chillicothe has to offer but does my best to make sure I am doing all I can to help our community and the people who need these resources. To those that do not know Poverty level is now at 200% which means that the people who were never able to access services due to income levels are now doing so because otherwise they would not be able to meet basic needs for living expenses. Those are the people that work and still cannot afford enough food or heating to make it through each month. With that being said where do each of you fall? I am a struggling single mother who has worked hard to provide for my children. People are not always able to give monetarily to assist another human being but everyone can donate an hour or two to volunteer at an organization that deals with the issues its community faces. I have volunteered many hours to many organizations in addition to working full time and attending school full time while taking care of my kids and for those of you who think this is bragging NO this is simply stating***Go Do Something!!! Anything*** People need help and if we are not willing to take a small amount of time to help them who will be there to help us should we ever need it?? Do any of us know that we will have a job next week or that our insurance will cover all of our expenses, no we do not and I really feel as though we have gotten caught up on the black/white issue...that is something that needs to be left out of all conversations because We are all human beings and all of us need help from time to time. I certainly agree that Haiti is suffering and those children have noone to help them let us help in any way we can but we also need to be willing to help those at home that need it as well. I do not care if other governments stepped up to help New Orleans after that tragedy I only care that we had people who were willing to go and get dirty and fight through that mess to assist the people that could not get out and to help the people that were affected afterwards. Chillicothe does have a homeless problem as does every community in the 9 county area of Green Hills. I would like to commend our community action agencies and the churches as well as all of the community organizations for all they do...what can we do to help them? I would like to mention another very important factor to the issue and that is lack of transportation not only for citizens of Chillicothe who can access the OATS system during the day and that is a very important resource but for those who work nights and those who live in the surrounding areas; they cannot work due to unavailabiltiy of transportation...how do we fix this issue?? Any ideas? Have a great week and I really hope that someone does pick up the ball and provide a homeless shelter accessing all available resources so that not only can they learn but in return give back to the community. Volunteering is such a needed resource and everyone can give a few hours at least a month and there are so many places that need help. The animal shelter, the women's shelter, the churches, the food pantries, nursing homes, hospital, youth groups, and many other places all need your help.
A mentor

United States

#39 Feb 7, 2010
Thanks for posting your comments T. It is very evident you are an intelligent woman making a difference in our community. I am proud to have been one of your mentors...You go, girl!!
T Jones

United States

#40 Feb 7, 2010
To A Mentor-I am extremely grateful to all those people in my life that have given me the chance and that believed in me when it was hard for me to believe in myself. I cannot thank you and all of the people I consider friends for not only teaching me but giving me the opportunity to do the things that I have done and hope to do in the future. I may not always achieve my goals but I will always do my best to do what I am able and I can only hope that I can inspire someone else the way so many people of this community has inspired me. Now I would like to post a poem that I was sent in a newsletter earlier and I feel that it relates to our discussion. We have to be willing to help others and something I try to live by is "acknowledgement" and when I say that it simply means to acknowledge another persons existence...say hello when you pass someone on the way into the store, or at the checkout line, don't cuss at someone because they are taking too much time deciding which movie at the Redbox...it is the little acknowledgements that may make a difference in someones life-a big problem is that so many people feel as though they are not important and that noone is there which fits into the homeless situation; you have to speak to someone to know if they need help, to often pride keeps them from asking for help...it is up to us to ask and to do that we have to acknowledge that they exist.I will close this for tonight and I am thankful for all of my blessings. Good night.Please read the following poem:
From: Robin Lee
Best Prayer I Have Heard In A Long Time...
Heavenly Father, Help us remember that the jerk who cut us
off in traffic last night is a single mother who worked nine
hours that day and is rushing home to cook dinner, help with
homework, do the dishes & laundry and spend a
few precious moments with her children.
Help us to remember that the pierced, tattooed,
disinterested young man who can't make change correctly
is a worried 19-year-old college student, balancing his
apprehension over final exams with his fear of not getting
his student loans for next semester.
Remind us, Lord, that the scary looking bum, begging for money in the same spot every day (who really ought to get a job!) is a slave to addictions that we can only imagine in
our worst nightmares.
Help us to remember that the old couple walking annoyingly slow through the store aisles and blocking our shopping progress are savoring this moment, knowing that, based on the biopsy report she got back last week, this will
be the last year that they go shopping together.
Heavenly Father, remind us each day that, of all the gifts
you give us, the greatest gift is love. It is not enough to
share that love with those we hold dear. Open our hearts not
to just those who are close to us, but to all humanity. Let
us be slow to judge and quick to forgive, show patience,
empathy and love.
Working for God on earth doesn't pay much... but His
retirement plan is out of this world.
400 lb Gorilla

United States

#41 Feb 7, 2010
TJones, It is a sad state of affairs that anyone would respond to this issue like Conserned Citizen has. I have to admit, I don't have his (or her) obvious lack of education, but I think there may be some truth there. There is now evidence of any issue about homeless. And if there is, is seems no one is doing anything about it. Jeff Foli mentioned someone at the beginning of this topic list. I have heard that this Jason Benson is a criminal and possibly a con-artist. I heard he almost got beat up by a preacher who he was working for. I've never heard of him, I also heard he isn't from here. Maybe he is just passing through and taking advantage of people's heart strings which are connected to there purse strings. The Ministiral Aliance had a fund for helping those transients, but funds ran low because of manipulators taking advantage of our good devotion to help. Are these people here and no one knows it? Are they all in jail? Are they in the motels pretending to be homeless? I heard a story about some millionare that went from town to town, pretending to be a homeless man, just to get free stuff. Kinda like we are a joke to these people. I agree with alot of what you said TJones, I like the sentiment and the poem. It's good to know these people can stand-up and make something of themselves if they apply themselves like you did. I just don't think they have it in them or ever will, and I'm not ready to spend money on a losing bet that they will. I'd almost rather send money to KC, just so they can take care of them there, instead of costing us here. And about Haiti, isn't this just another tug on or pocket book to send money away to someone else? When did we become the "world's savior". I do feel bad for the parents and their children. Everyone deserves a chance to make it in this world, and tradegy hits us all, rich/poor, black/white, religious/not religious, male/female. But I'm tired of hearing about people taken advantage of others, just because they have a good cause. Everyone seems to be looking out for number one, if I'm amoung only a few who want to care for others, then "a fool and his money are soon departed." But I don't know, I could be wrong. I'm just the 400 lb Gorilla in the room.

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