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MO bill requires teaching intelligent design

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#1 Jan 20, 2012
Should Intelligent design be required teaching in MO schools?

"Rep. Rick Brattin, a Republican lawmaker from Harrisonville wants all students in Missouri public schools, as well as those in introductory college courses, to be taught intelligent design alongside evolution in their science classes."

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R Brown

Chillicothe, MO

#2 Jan 20, 2012
Maybe a good idea. But it depends on whose version of "Intellgent Design". I'm a bit leery of some version by government controlled schools.

From what I can tell, the ancient Sumerians and Egyptians based their civilizations on belief of an intelligent creator. From my reading of the book "Forbidden Archeology by Michael Cremo, politics plays a major role in what we are told about man's origins. The interpretaion of archeological discoveries must conform to the theory of evolution. The discoveries must show man as evolving from ape-like beings. Any find of skulls and bones like those of "modern" homo sapiens of over 30,000 years or so are rejected.

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#3 Jan 20, 2012
Iwmfu wrote:
Should Intelligent design be required teaching in MO schools?
"Rep. Rick Brattin, a Republican lawmaker from Harrisonville wants all students in Missouri public schools, as well as those in introductory college courses, to be taught intelligent design alongside evolution in their science classes."
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No I don't. I think Intelligent design should an elective class and should not be part of the science curriculum. Let the students/parents decide if they want to take this class.

Just my humble opinion!!!

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#4 Jan 20, 2012
There are already classes for this, it's called church. I don't hear scientists lobbying for science classes in church.
Gravy Train

Saint Joseph, MO

#5 Jan 20, 2012
KC Cat - why not let parents/students decide if they want to take the "evolution" class, too? You know, I'd agree with you on that - let me decide if I want my kid to go to the class that teaches evolution or the class that teaches intelligent design.

Since: Sep 11

Chillicothe, MO

#6 Jan 20, 2012
Evolution is a theory, is it not? Give students options to consider. Or are we afraid of what they might choose to believe?

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#7 Jan 20, 2012
Former Mayor Jeff Foli wrote:
Evolution is a theory, is it not? Give students options to consider. Or are we afraid of what they might choose to believe?
It is both a theory, and a fact.

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#8 Jan 20, 2012
Former Mayor Jeff Foli wrote:
Evolution is a theory, is it not? Give students options to consider. Or are we afraid of what they might choose to believe?
They already have the option. If you want to learn evolution, go to school. If you want to learn creationism, go to church. What's the big fuggin deal. This wouldn't even be an issue if Creationism, or Intelligent Design held any water at all. Why do the religious have this notion that people aren't aware of the Magic Man in the Sky theory. It's been around for thousands of years. It has failed at every turn to explain anything. Period. If this passes I will certainly, for the first time in a decade, consider moving.

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#9 Jan 20, 2012
Furthermore, evolution only explains the diversity of species. It does not proclaim to know the origins of life. That information, as of yet, is beyond science. It is also beyond the realm of religion as well, yet they are quick to stab their churchy flags in the ground and claim the knowledge property for themselves. Is that want you want to teach in school? I think we should probably have the crap we KNOW taught in schools. So kids come out KNOWING things that are KNOWABLE. They can ponder their existence at home, where my tax money is not at use.

Since: Sep 11

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#10 Jan 20, 2012
I think creation science people have a point when they use two different words for clarity:
1) adaptation, and
2) evolution.

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#11 Jan 20, 2012
Former Mayor Jeff Foli wrote:
I think creation science people have a point when they use two different words for clarity:
1) adaptation, and
2) evolution.
Yea, so, what are we supposed to do with that? You "think" think they have a point? Demonstrate it.
A fish called Darwin

Chillicothe, MO

#12 Jan 20, 2012
Do you think it was debated whether to teach that the world is round or flat? Do you think that the truth is dependant on how "forcible" your opinion is, as in "might makes right" which condemned Socrates to death after he denied to teach it. Or how about the rationalization of slavery, and the "church's" position of papal perfection. Or that the sun goes around the earth, instead of the other way around.

Creationism and "intelligent design" are attempts to keep us grounded on a flat world, where the sun rotates around, where WE are the center of the universe, given to become slaves to their belief system of irrational thought, proven to be true by mere force if need be, by their "perfect" religous leaders.

Or we can grow up accept reality as it is, not as we wish it to be.

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#13 Jan 20, 2012
Former Mayor Jeff Foli wrote:
Evolution is a theory, is it not? Give students options to consider. Or are we afraid of what they might choose to believe?
The Germ Theory of Disease is only a theory. Are you suggesting schools continue teaching evil curses as a possible explanation for disease and let students choose which to believe?

Is it your assertion that intelligent design is based in science?

“So it's not you, It's them?”

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#14 Jan 20, 2012
If public schools offer a class in creationism / intelligent design / they should do so as an elective / in religion / theology / not in science.
A fish called Darwin

Chillicothe, MO

#15 Jan 20, 2012
A fish called Darwin

Chillicothe, MO

#16 Jan 20, 2012
&fe ature=related

This is a parody, and dubbed. But I think the point is made.

Gravity at one time was a theory, and was contraversial

Since: Sep 11

Chillicothe, MO

#17 Jan 20, 2012
There is a difference in micro vs macro evolution.

“So it's not you, It's them?”

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#18 Jan 20, 2012
Former Mayor Jeff Foli wrote:
There is a difference in micro vs macro evolution.
Your point in your post above / would be what / Captain Obvious?

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#19 Jan 21, 2012
One major contention of creationism is that there are no obvious intermediaries. Where are the people with tails,???

Since: Sep 11

Chillicothe, MO

#20 Jan 21, 2012
The would say to show them a fossilized transition form.

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