Woodworth / Robertson case - Paula Za...

Since: Jun 11

Overland Park, KS

#22 Nov 8, 2011
Concerning the three missing letters that was kept from the defense... yesterday, in court, the judge said,“There is a substantive issue as to whether Mr. Woodworth got a fair grand jury hearing.“In the best light, these letters suggest something nefarious was going on back there.”

i.e.(Definition of NEFARIOUS: Evil; wicked; criminal)

Read more: http://www.kansascity.com/2011/11/07/3253551/...

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#23 Nov 8, 2011

Chillicothe, Mo.— COLUMBIA, Mo.(AP)— A judge considering whether to recommend a new trial for a Missouri man twice convicted for the 1990 death of his neighbor raised several questions Monday about letters to and from prosecutors that defense attorneys say weren’t properly disclosed.

Mark Woodworth was 16 when the wife of his father’s farming partner, Cathy Robertson, was killed as she slept at her family’s nearby rural home outside Chillicothe. Her husband, Lyndel Robertson, survived the shootings.

Woodworth was indicted by a grand jury in 1993, convicted at trial by a jury in 1995 and again by a second jury in a retrial four years later. But the Missouri Supreme Court ruled last year that Woodworth could present new testimony in his latest appeal. His attorney and a state prosecutor returned to a Boone County courtroom Monday, six months after a four-day hearing in Columbia.

Circuit Judge Gary Oxenhandler raised several questions about correspondence among state and local prosecutors and a grand jury judge. Woodworth’s lawyer, Bob Ramsey, said the correspondence wasn’t provided to previous defense attorneys.

In one letter, former Livingston County prosecutor Doug Roberts — who was replaced by special state prosecutor Kenny Hulshof after declining to press charges against Woodworth — told a judge that Lyndel Robertson ‘‘was adamant’’ after the shooting that another suspect be charged. Robertson later testified that he had only named his oldest daughter’s ex-boyfriend as a possible shooter.

The state Attorney General’s Office argued that even if the three disputed letters weren’t initially disclosed to Woodworth’s attorneys, the documents contained no evidence that would have changed the outcome of the two earlier trials.

Oxenhandler wasn’t so sure.

‘‘There is a substantive issue as to whether Mr. Woodworth got a fair grand jury hearing,’’ said the judge, who was appointed as a special master in the case by the Missouri Supreme Court.‘‘In the best light, these letters suggest something nefarious was going on back there.’’

Woodworth, who is serving a life sentence without parole at the Crossroads Correctional Center in Cameron, did not attend Monday’s hearing. But more than 30 of his supporters from Chillicothe joined Woodworth’s parents and siblings for the 90-minute proceeding.

Lyndel Robertson and three of his daughters sat on the opposite side of the courtroom. They declined comment, but family spokeswoman Susan Ryan said the Robertsons remain adamant that the right person is behind bars.

‘‘Two juries with different prosecutors, different defense attorneys, different judges, saw all the evidence and made a decision that he was guilty beyond a reasonable doubt,’’ she said.‘‘We have all the confidence in the world that this special master will look at the evidence and not be distracted.’’

Oxenhandler won’t rule on Woodworth’s guilt or innocence, but rather make a recommendation to the state Supreme Court as to whether he deserves a third trial.

After the hearing, both sides commended the judge for his attention to detail. At one point, a court administrator rolled a shopping cart crammed with spiral notebooks into the courtroom so Oxenhandler could consult previously submitted legal exhibits.

‘‘I’m going to be poring over this,’’ the judge said, referring to the case’s voluminous files.

Since: Jun 11

Overland Park, KS

#24 Nov 8, 2011
For anyone who was there yesterday...tell us more of what happened and who was there. Was Gary Calvert there this time? Were the witnesses there also? Who took the stand and were they put under oath?
Rough and Ready

Higginsville, MO

#25 Nov 8, 2011
No one was questioned, except the state prosecutor and Ramsey. Of course Gary was not there. He can't do any more harm than he has already done.

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#26 Nov 8, 2011
You mean Sherrif Cox wasn't there to see this thing through?

Since: Jul 10

San Diego, CA

#27 Nov 8, 2011
Chilli 58 wrote:
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Jitterbug, what Greenhill channel does Investigative Discovery come on?
channel 104

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#28 Nov 8, 2011
I wonder if Tom Tingerthal will be reporting anything about this on KCHI, or if he'll just leave it to Mike Lear and Allison Blood on The Missouri Net?

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#29 Nov 8, 2011
curious

Kansas City, MO

#30 Nov 9, 2011
What's the time of this showing?
Chilli 58 wrote:
"On the case with Paula Zahn" will air the Woodworth/ Robertson story (Severed Ties) on Sunday November 13th on the Investigation Discovery Channel. Channel listings are: Direct TV-channel 285. Dish Network-192. AT&T-260. AT&T HD 1260. Longview Comm.-252. Windjammer-138. It doesn't look like Green Hills carries the channel but the number to call to request is: 800-846-3426. For the people in the Kansas City area....... Time Warner: 225. Surewest: 427. This should be very interesting to watch.

Since: Jun 11

Overland Park, KS

#31 Nov 9, 2011
curious wrote:
What's the time of this showing?
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It was be shown @ 9:00 pm. It is a one hour show.

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#33 Nov 9, 2011
Tom Tingerthal didn't say anything about the hearing durning the 3pm newscast.

VRA

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#34 Nov 9, 2011
forumpolice wrote:
Wonder how much th Woodworths had to pay to get this on air? I bet they dont mention that Mark was indicted by a grand jury, lost 1st trial, then lost another. They will probably not mention that Mark changed his story many times and lied. They probably wont mention that h has lost many appeals. Wonder if they interviewed any of the Robertsons for this story? I bet this Paula Zahn knows more about this case than all the jurors, all the judges, and all the appeal boards! I think its goin to be a one sided story favoring a convicted cold blooded killer!
I am wondering if the case will be slanted in the media yet again too. However, at least the Robertsons were consulted on the episode so it might actually have a chance. I am not going to form my opinion though until I watch.
Rough and Ready

Higginsville, MO

#35 Nov 9, 2011
Well, I'm sure the Robertson's put their spin on the Paula Zahn story. She was not paid anything for the story. She contacted "them" and wanted to do the show. Paula does know a lot about the case, that is why she contacted them. Things didn't seem quite right to her and her staff.
Yes, Sheriff Cox was at the hearing.

VRA

Since: Jul 10

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#36 Nov 9, 2011
Rough and Ready wrote:
Well, I'm sure the Robertson's put their spin on the Paula Zahn story. She was not paid anything for the story. She contacted "them" and wanted to do the show. Paula does know a lot about the case, that is why she contacted them. Things didn't seem quite right to her and her staff.
Yes, Sheriff Cox was at the hearing.
LMAO! So you speak for Paula Zahn? The Robertsons have nothing to spin. It is Mark Woodworth who has everything to lose by telling the truth. Face it.

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#37 Nov 9, 2011
Rough and Ready wrote:
Yes, Sheriff Cox was at the hearing.
Glad there wasn't anything going on in Chillicothe that he was needed for. Glad I didn't vote for him also.

Since: Jun 11

Overland Park, KS

#38 Nov 9, 2011
So the Robertsons contacted Paula Zahn? This really surprise me. I kind of thought it would have been the Woodworths.
Absurd

Chillicothe, MO

#39 Nov 9, 2011
Pissantt wrote:
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Glad there wasn't anything going on in Chillicothe that he was needed for. Glad I didn't vote for him also.
Well it is only a murder case from Livingston County. He and his staff never seem to have problems getting their work done for everyone else. Had Cox not been there you would have been critical of him also.

Who really cares who you voted for. Your user name really says plenty about your personality and compassion.

Are you that shallow that you cannot comprehend the possibility the system is flawed and on occassion an innocent person is wrongfully convicted? If that took place it does not mean the Robertson or Woodworth family are bad people. It means a mistake happened and it needs corrected.

Or could it be as the Ramsey fellow suggests problems with the prosecution in making significant errors? Or possibly with the famed private detective potentially acting improperly or at least may have attempted to personally influence an expert lab on a firearm exam to "futher strengthen their testimony" and imply there was $25,000 dollars at question over this. Or can you not agree that Judge Oxenhandler is being fair and impartial at seeking the whole truth and not just pieces of it. He can rule in favor of the Robertsons or in favor of the Woodworths.

From what I read in the St. Joseph News Paper it sounds to me as though this judge feels something very unusual may have been taking place in Chillicothe back in the day. For a deeper side of that picture go back and look at who all was indicted by that infamous Grand Jury, and see how many acquittals took place as compared to convictions. If you do not know then you should go look. Go read the letters authored by Mr. Terry Diester. Go see all the expert opinions on the firearm evidence and if you can look at it with an open mind you will see there may be a huge problem. Go see the witnesses who were not contacted or accurate reports may not have been prepared.

Either way your feelings lead should not cause you to be on here bashing one family or another.

Watching CSI from your 19" color HDTV at home does not make any of us a legal expert.

Show respect for all involved and that may pay you dividends some day when you need it.

VRA

Since: Jul 10

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#40 Nov 9, 2011
Oh this is definitely how rumors get started. How did you get that out of what anyone posted? I think I must have missed something. Neither the Robertsons nor supposedly the Woodworths contacted the show that I know. Although if I were the Woodworths were smart they wouldn't be so excited about it. I don't think it is going to put him in a good light. Which that is the way it should be when you are talking about a 2 time convicted murder.
Rough and Ready

Higginsville, MO

#41 Nov 9, 2011
Well, I sure didn't say anything about the Robertson's contacting Paula. I said Paula contacted the Robertson's and the Woodworth's about the show.

VRA

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#42 Nov 9, 2011
Absurd wrote:
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If that took place it does not mean the Robertson or Woodworth family are bad people. It means a mistake happened and it needs corrected.
Not according to Woodworth. He and his legal team have accused 2 members of the vicitm's family of things that they are not even the least bit able to back up. No victims should have to take the kind of bullsh*t that Woodworth and the attorney has dished out. Where is the respect for the dead or victim?
Absurd wrote:
From what I read in the St. Joseph News Paper it sounds to me as though this judge feels something very unusual may have been taking place in Chillicothe back in the day.
There is your problem right there. Reading the paper and believing what you read is not a very good source. Of course the author didn't lie but he left out a lot. And you were duped by him. He left out, according to the Robertsons, that the judge was playing devil's advocate when saying things looked nefarious. Supposedly he had some very pointed questions for the defense also. Where might I ask were those in the AP story???
Absurd wrote:
For a deeper side of that picture go back and look at who all was indicted by that infamous Grand Jury, and see how many acquittals took place as compared to convictions. If you do not know then you should go look. Go read the letters authored by Mr. Terry Diester. Go see all the expert opinions on the firearm evidence and if you can look at it with an open mind you will see there may be a huge problem. Go see the witnesses who were not contacted or accurate reports may not have been prepared.
What about Mark's infamous lies, or his lie detector test being failed or his cold, callous lack of respect or care for the injured or deceased? "We all have to die sometime". Were his own words to investigators. Or what about the fact that he and his father were also receiving stolen chemicals. Why were they never prosecuted? They were charged. Why doesn't Sheriff Cox persue that? What about the fingerprint on the bullet box in the shed that Mark said he hadn't ever been in? Or about the bullet matching almost all reference points to the gun of woodworth's dad.

I choose to believe in the facts of the case that the jury heard. Letters back and forth were not something that would have been admissable in court anyway. And besides, if there were something nefarious going on, why would they put it on paper? Why not a telephone call that can't be heard 20 years later? Conspiracy theories is all it is.

Let me pose a question. How many of you, after hearing the judges decision that he doesn't get a new trial, will then FINALLY believe that he is guilty???? I think I know the answer to that. Some people are in denial their whole life.

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