Romney’s middle-class plan: take from the middle class to give more to Mitt

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Jon Paul

Chico, CA

#1 Sep 7, 2012
Mitt Romney’s middle-class plan: take from the middle class to give more to Mitt.
That's right: The non-partisan Tax Policy Center that found Romney’s plan would raise taxes on 95% of Americans, while delivering an $87,000 cut for millionaires.
Flip Flop Romney seems to think Tax Policy Center is unbiased except for when he doesn't like what they have to say about the facts.
So when the Republicans start talking about wealth redistribution, it's not what is really happening. According to them the corporations and the rich should get welfare.
He thinks the best way to put Americans back to work is by cutting jobs, educate our kids by laying off teachers, and level the playing field for small businesses by rigging it in favor of big corporations. This is his "middle class plan."
Godfrey

Oroville, CA

#2 Sep 8, 2012
Jon Paul wrote:
Mitt Romney’s middle-class plan: take from the middle class to give more to Mitt.
That's right: The non-partisan Tax Policy Center that found Romney’s plan would raise taxes on 95% of Americans
Tax Policy Center is Non-partisan, I guess that would be right if it weren't so wrong any they are as left as they come. But let's just say they were right on this one. If that is the case you should be tickled, hell liberals love fees, fines and taxes, Romney should be your guy.
Jon Paul

Chico, CA

#4 Sep 8, 2012
Who like's fines? Nobody having to pay them. As for fees and taxes, that just depends on what I get out of them. Romney is not my guy; he could care less about you or me.

But here's how a Romney press release in November described their work: Objective, Third-Party Analysis Showed Governor Perry’s Plan Would Raise Taxes On Millions Of American Families – But He Doesn’t Seem Interested In The Discussion.

So there you go and why flip-flop Romney is a hypocrite.

Bottom line is the Republicans want to tax the middle class and give the rich a free ride.
Godfrey wrote:
<quoted text> Tax Policy Center is Non-partisan, I guess that would be right if it weren't so wrong any they are as left as they come. But let's just say they were right on this one. If that is the case you should be tickled, hell liberals love fees, fines and taxes, Romney should be your guy.
Tea Party Solution

Paradise, CA

#5 Sep 9, 2012
Jon Paul wrote:
Who like's fines? Nobody having to pay them. As for fees and taxes, that just depends on what I get out of them. Romney is not my guy; he could care less about you or me.
But here's how a Romney press release in November described their work: Objective, Third-Party Analysis Showed Governor Perry’s Plan Would Raise Taxes On Millions Of American Families – But He Doesn’t Seem Interested In The Discussion.
So there you go and why flip-flop Romney is a hypocrite.
Bottom line is the Republicans want to tax the middle class and give the rich a free ride.
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The Ryan tax plan would lower Romney's tax bill to UNDER the 14% he pays now. It could be as low as 1%.

What would the repubs say if a super-rich dem candidate promoted this kind of self-aggrandizing program?

“Facts”

Since: May 08

Mexico

#6 Sep 9, 2012
Jon Paul wrote:
Mitt RomneyÂ’s middle-class plan: take from the middle class to give more to Mitt.
That's right: The non-partisan Tax Policy Center that found RomneyÂ’s plan would raise taxes on 95% of Americans, while delivering an $87,000 cut for millionaires.
Flip Flop Romney seems to think Tax Policy Center is unbiased except for when he doesn't like what they have to say about the facts.
So when the Republicans start talking about wealth redistribution, it's not what is really happening. According to them the corporations and the rich should get welfare.
He thinks the best way to put Americans back to work is by cutting jobs, educate our kids by laying off teachers, and level the playing field for small businesses by rigging it in favor of big corporations. This is his "middle class plan."
this is as funny as when the moron grumpy makes a claim and post the economy slayers web site as facts

“Facts”

Since: May 08

Mexico

#7 Sep 9, 2012
Tea Party Solution wrote:
<quoted text>The Ryan tax plan would lower Romney's tax bill to UNDER the 14% he pays now. It could be as low as 1%.

What would the repubs say if a super-rich dem candidate promoted this kind of self-aggrandizing program?
trying to compete with Canada
Annoyed

Chico, CA

#8 Sep 9, 2012
Here Is One wrote:
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trying to compete with Canada
Instead of trying to work WITH Canada and others near us work "against" them instead?:(

Oh, what master planners you political types think you are. But it's more like stupid and short sighted.

Saw something in the paper today where someone asked who would you invest your life savings with (if you had to), Obama or Romney...and had to laugh. The question I had was NOT if I might make another .01% profit, but "Who would I trust" if I had to decide. I hope there are people here who know the answer.

If I had a better feel for this I wouldn't be shy with recommendations, but it seems (especially with big stock market/IRA losses) that the public has taken a tremendous beating unrelated to the political party in charge at the time...am I right?

HIO need not reply.
Local

Clearlake, CA

#9 Sep 9, 2012
Tea Party Solution wrote:
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The Ryan tax plan would lower Romney's tax bill to UNDER the 14% he pays now. It could be as low as 1%.
What would the repubs say if a super-rich dem candidate promoted this kind of self-aggrandizing program?
Near-Bankrupt California Awards Hollywood $100M In Corporate Welfare

The (Democrat dominated) California state Assembly Appropriations Committee has unanimously approved a bill extending the state’s film and television tax credit program for an additional two years, the LA Times reports. The current extension of the program that allocates $100 million yearly in credits expires next year.

Over at Instapundit, Glenn Reynolds has picked up on the theme of "Repeal the Hollywood Tax Cuts" and wrote a recent column that lays open just how much money this industry steals from hardworking, middle class taxpayers:But Hollywood's Top 1% is a powerful and attractive lobby, which is why they're able to legally steal from taxpayers.

Gov. Brown should veto these tax cuts.....but he won't. Hollywood supports the left.
Local

Clearlake, CA

#10 Sep 9, 2012
Jon Paul wrote:
Who like's fines? Nobody having to pay them. As for fees and taxes, that just depends on what I get out of them. Romney is not my guy; he could care less about you or me.
But here's how a Romney press release in November described their work: Objective, Third-Party Analysis Showed Governor Perry’s Plan Would Raise Taxes On Millions Of American Families – But He Doesn’t Seem Interested In The Discussion.
So there you go and why flip-flop Romney is a hypocrite.
Bottom line is the Republicans want to tax the middle class and give the rich a free ride.
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Interesting. The states that are considered solid "red states" in the upcoming election have much lower unemployment rates than states considered solid "blue states" (nobama states).

For example: Texas will vote for Romney (unemployment rate 6%)
California will vote for nObama (unemployment rate 11%)

another: Rhode Island will vote for nObama Unemployment(11%)
Oklahoma(5% unemployment) will vote for Romney

The working middle class seems to want fiscal sanity in our federal/state government(Romney), and the lefty entitlement culture seems to want nObama.

Repub. governors are putting their people to work, and democrat governors are not creating jobs.
Out of work people do not pay any taxes, hence, the blue state's budgets(like Calif., Rhode Island) are unpsidedown, and the repub. governors budgets are doing just fine. Calif. and Rhode Isand also have very high tax burdens.

Could it be that democrat tax and spend policies do not work?


nObama's Tax and spend policy has not worked/will not work for the nation.
Tea Party Solution

Chico, CA

#11 Sep 9, 2012
Local wrote:
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Interesting. The states that are considered solid "red states" in the upcoming election have much lower unemployment rates than states considered solid "blue states" (nobama states).
Let's look at the states with the highest poverty rates. They're red states.
As of 2009, the ten states with the highest percentage of families living in poverty are: 1. Mississippi; 2. Arkansas; 3. Kentucky; 4. New Mexico; 5. Texas; 6. Alabama; 7. Louisiana; 8. Tennessee; 9. South Carolina; 10. Georgia.

In contrast, the states with the lowest percentage of families living in poverty are: 50. New Hampshire; 49. Maryland; 48. Wyoming; 47. North Dakota; 46. Alaska; 45. Connecticut; 44T. New Jersey, Minnesota and Massachusetts; 41. Delaware. These are mainly blue states.

Red state Republicans are squarely against Obamacare, yet, oddly, they tend to need it more than blue states do. The ten states with the largest number of uninsured, and the percentages are: 1. Texas, 26.1% 2. Florida, 22.4% 3. New Mexico, 21.7% 4. Nevada, 20.8% 5. Georgia, 20.5% 6. California, 20% 7. Arizona, 19.6% 8. Arkansas, 19.2% 9. Oklahoma, 18.1% 10. North Carolina,18.0%. Of that group, only California politicians seem interested in getting coverage for their people, and making sure the hospitals and doctors get paid, which is exactly what Obamacare will do.

The most incredible thing to note about the Republican states is how dependent they are on Democratic-run states. Start with the ten states who get the most federal money for every dollar they pay in taxes: Mississippi,$2.83; West Virginia,$2.83; New Mexico,$2.80; Hawaii,$2.38; Alaska,$2.24; Alabama,$2.21; South Carolina,$2.13; Montana,$2.13; Maine,$2.00; Kentucky,$1.96.

Meanwhile, here are the states that are subsidizing the above states to the greatest degree. In other words, when these people pay $1.00 in taxes, this is the amount of benefit they receive in return: Delaware $0.40; Minnesota,$0.54; New Jersey,$0.62; Connecticut,$0.74; Illinois,$0.79; New York,$0.79; Nebraska,$0.82; Rhode Island,$0.89; Colorado,$0.90; Arkansas,$0.92

The above from: http://pleasecutthecrap.typepad.com/main/2012...

The above link is an interesting source. It covers many other statistics regarding murder rates, graduation rates, etc, with links to each statistical source.
Godfrey

Oroville, CA

#12 Sep 9, 2012
Tea Party Solution wrote:
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Let's look at the states with the highest poverty rates. They're red states.
As of 2009, the ten states with the highest percentage of families living in poverty are: 1. Mississippi; 2. Arkansas; 3. Kentucky; 4. New Mexico; 5. Texas; 6. Alabama; 7. Louisiana; 8. Tennessee; 9. South Carolina; 10. Georgia.
In contrast, the states with the lowest percentage of families living in poverty are: 50. New Hampshire; 49. Maryland; 48. Wyoming; 47. North Dakota; 46. Alaska; 45. Connecticut; 44T. New Jersey, Minnesota and Massachusetts; 41. Delaware. These are mainly blue states.
Red state Republicans are squarely against Obamacare, yet, oddly, they tend to need it more than blue states do. The ten states with the largest number of uninsured, and the percentages are: 1. Texas, 26.1% 2. Florida, 22.4% 3. New Mexico, 21.7% 4. Nevada, 20.8% 5. Georgia, 20.5% 6. California, 20% 7. Arizona, 19.6% 8. Arkansas, 19.2% 9. Oklahoma, 18.1% 10. North Carolina,18.0%. Of that group, only California politicians seem interested in getting coverage for their people, and making sure the hospitals and doctors get paid, which is exactly what Obamacare will do.
The most incredible thing to note about the Republican states is how dependent they are on Democratic-run states. Start with the ten states who get the most federal money for every dollar they pay in taxes: Mississippi,$2.83; West Virginia,$2.83; New Mexico,$2.80; Hawaii,$2.38; Alaska,$2.24; Alabama,$2.21; South Carolina,$2.13; Montana,$2.13; Maine,$2.00; Kentucky,$1.96.
Meanwhile, here are the states that are subsidizing the above states to the greatest degree. In other words, when these people pay $1.00 in taxes, this is the amount of benefit they receive in return: Delaware $0.40; Minnesota,$0.54; New Jersey,$0.62; Connecticut,$0.74; Illinois,$0.79; New York,$0.79; Nebraska,$0.82; Rhode Island,$0.89; Colorado,$0.90; Arkansas,$0.92
The above from: http://pleasecutthecrap.typepad.com/main/2012...
The above link is an interesting source. It covers many other statistics regarding murder rates, graduation rates, etc, with links to each statistical source.
Holy Christ. It says you are from Gerber but I think it should be Goober. Think anybody out here is going to read all this crap you cut and paste without putting quotes on anything. You are a goober from gerber I guess. Keep being gramps the goober from gerber. I like it.

“Facts”

Since: May 08

Colima, Mexico

#13 Sep 9, 2012
Annoyed wrote:
<quoted text>Instead of trying to work WITH Canada and others near us work "against" them instead?:(

Oh, what master planners you political types think you are. But it's more like stupid and short sighted.

Saw something in the paper today where someone asked who would you invest your life savings with (if you had to), Obama or Romney...and had to laugh. The question I had was NOT if I might make another .01% profit, but "Who would I trust" if I had to decide. I hope there are people here who know the answer.

If I had a better feel for this I wouldn't be shy with recommendations, but it seems (especially with big stock market/IRA losses) that the public has taken a tremendous beating unrelated to the political party in charge at the time...am I right?

HIO need not reply.
yes the concept of lowering taxes like Canada did and seeing business expand and new business move there is foreign to liberals
They only know how to raises taxes and watch economies shrink
Laughing at One moron

Sacramento, CA

#14 Sep 9, 2012
Here Is One wrote:
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yes the concept of lowering taxes like Canada did and seeing business expand and new business move there is foreign to liberals
They only know how to raises taxes and watch economies shrink
And if we lower taxes on the rich in this country and they take that money and invest it on our competition or like mutt rummy just park it overseas what then?

Doing what you propose has been done in the past and during those periods of trickle -down the economy expanded only because the middle class borrowed on hope and spent that borrowed money and the rich did what they have since ronnie raygun, they moved that money overseas.

Right mr. pedophile from PUERTO VALLARTA MEXICO?

We need "three strikes" for the rich.

“Facts”

Since: May 08

Colima, Mexico

#15 Sep 9, 2012
Tea Party Solution wrote:
<quoted text>Let's look at the states with the highest poverty rates. They're red states.
As of 2009, the ten states with the highest percentage of families living in poverty are: 1. Mississippi; 2. Arkansas; 3. Kentucky; 4. New Mexico; 5. Texas; 6. Alabama; 7. Louisiana; 8. Tennessee; 9. South Carolina; 10. Georgia.

In contrast, the states with the lowest percentage of families living in poverty are: 50. New Hampshire; 49. Maryland; 48. Wyoming; 47. North Dakota; 46. Alaska; 45. Connecticut; 44T. New Jersey, Minnesota and Massachusetts; 41. Delaware. These are mainly blue states.

Red state Republicans are squarely against Obamacare, yet, oddly, they tend to need it more than blue states do. The ten states with the largest number of uninsured, and the percentages are: 1. Texas, 26.1% 2. Florida, 22.4% 3. New Mexico, 21.7% 4. Nevada, 20.8% 5. Georgia, 20.5% 6. California, 20% 7. Arizona, 19.6% 8. Arkansas, 19.2% 9. Oklahoma, 18.1% 10. North Carolina,18.0%. Of that group, only California politicians seem interested in getting coverage for their people, and making sure the hospitals and doctors get paid, which is exactly what Obamacare will do.

The most incredible thing to note about the Republican states is how dependent they are on Democratic-run states. Start with the ten states who get the most federal money for every dollar they pay in taxes: Mississippi,$2.83; West Virginia,$2.83; New Mexico,$2.80; Hawaii,$2.38; Alaska,$2.24; Alabama,$2.21; South Carolina,$2.13; Montana,$2.13; Maine,$2.00; Kentucky,$1.96.

Meanwhile, here are the states that are subsidizing the above states to the greatest degree. In other words, when these people pay $1.00 in taxes, this is the amount of benefit they receive in return: Delaware $0.40; Minnesota,$0.54; New Jersey,$0.62; Connecticut,$0.74; Illinois,$0.79; New York,$0.79; Nebraska,$0.82; Rhode Island,$0.89; Colorado,$0.90; Arkansas,$0.92

The above from: http://pleasecutthecrap.typepad.com/main/2012...

The above link is an interesting source. It covers many other statistics regarding murder rates, graduation rates, etc, with links to each statistical source.
you kind of ignore the fact that those states are also full of plenty of illegals and liberals
Tea Party Solution

Chico, CA

#16 Sep 9, 2012
Here Is One wrote:
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you kind of ignore the fact that those states are also full of plenty of illegals and liberals
The red state citizens may be ignorant goobers, but at least they're not unpatriotic ex-patriots like you.

“Facts”

Since: May 08

Colima, Mexico

#17 Sep 9, 2012
Laughing at One moron wrote:
<quoted text>And if we lower taxes on the rich in this country and they take that money and invest it on our competition or like mutt rummy just park it overseas what then?

Doing what you propose has been done in the past and during those periods of trickle -down the economy expanded only because the middle class borrowed on hope and spent that borrowed money and the rich did what they have since ronnie raygun, they moved that money overseas.

Right mr. pedophile from PUERTO VALLARTA MEXICO?

We need "three strikes" for the rich.
that is not what history shows and not what Canada just proved

But those are facts and people like you ignore facts

California has been pleading business to Nevada for years
Texas has a unemployment far lower than California
Even Apple shifted part of their business to Nevada years ago and is now moving into Texas

One of the largest office product chain was just offered no import tariff on all goods if they put the distribution center here in Mexico instead of the USA
They also get a 20 year break on more taxes
GRANDPA NICOLAI

Chico, CA

#18 Sep 9, 2012
Laughing at One moron wrote:
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And if we lower taxes on the rich in this country and they take that money and invest it on our competition or like mutt rummy just park it overseas what then?
Doing what you propose has been done in the past and during those periods of trickle -down the economy expanded only because the middle class borrowed on hope and spent that borrowed money and the rich did what they have since ronnie raygun, they moved that money overseas.
Right mr. pedophile from PUERTO VALLARTA MEXICO?
We need "three strikes" for the rich.
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Trickle down is the biggest racket ever foisted upon the middle class.... wealth never trickles down, wealth always gets sucked upwards.... that was proven behind any doubt during the RayGun administration...

Trickle down economics is like giving oats to horses in order to feed the birds who eat the undigested seeds from the horse manure...

And you are right, give the wealthy more tax breaks and they will do just like the treasonous Romney FLOP does , they will just park it in the Caymans....

“Facts”

Since: May 08

Puerto Vallarta, Mexico

#19 Sep 10, 2012
GRANDPA NICOLAI wrote:
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Trickle down is the biggest racket ever foisted upon the middle class.... wealth never trickles down, wealth always gets sucked upwards.... that was proven behind any doubt during the RayGun administration...
Trickle down economics is like giving oats to horses in order to feed the birds who eat the undigested seeds from the horse manure...
And you are right, give the wealthy more tax breaks and they will do just like the treasonous Romney FLOP does , they will just park it in the Caymans....
Except that the IRS data shows they receive more revenue when taxes are lowered and less revenue when taxes are raised.......

But you just prove that liberals don't care about how much money the government receives in taxes
Liberals only want to punish those that have more than them........
Here is One

Condon, OR

#20 Sep 10, 2012
Here Is One wrote:
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Except that the IRS data shows they receive more revenue when taxes are lowered and less revenue when taxes are raised.......
But you just prove that liberals don't care about how much money the government receives in taxes
Liberals only want to punish those that have more than them........
Nice TURD POLISHING MexiTroll One!

Maybe we should elect the Mutt and outsource our government to CANADA. Problem solved right retard?

Why won't you ever show up for lunch? I have invited you 500 times! Scared are you? I promise we won't put any polished turds in your meal. NOT that you would notice.

Hey Manic One looks like noOne pays ant attention to you in Ukiah anymore. Poooor sweet little flower.

“Facts”

Since: May 08

Puerto Vallarta, Mexico

#21 Sep 10, 2012
GRANDPA NICOLAI wrote:
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Trickle down is the biggest racket ever foisted upon the middle class.... wealth never trickles down, wealth always gets sucked upwards.... that was proven behind any doubt during the RayGun administration...
Trickle down economics is like giving oats to horses in order to feed the birds who eat the undigested seeds from the horse manure...
And you are right, give the wealthy more tax breaks and they will do just like the treasonous Romney FLOP does , they will just park it in the Caymans....
Dont worry liberals and there taxes will send even more business to Canada..........LOL

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