Damaged Durham High oak to be felled ...

Damaged Durham High oak to be felled for safety reasons

There are 52 comments on the Chico Enterprise-Record story from Aug 6, 2010, titled Damaged Durham High oak to be felled for safety reasons. In it, Chico Enterprise-Record reports that:

Trustees of the Durham Unified School District decided Wednesday not to take the risk of another tree limb falling at Durham High School, and will have the giant valley oak removed before students return for the start of the semester Aug.

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Durham

Chico, CA

#21 Aug 6, 2010
stephens1949 wrote:
Anyone with a lick of sense knows when a tree is going to drop a limb. It is a sense that is being, lost, bred out of the coming generations. Rope it off if your kids are to stupid to not use their noodles. Treat them like sheep. There is no hope for you if you do not know.
IT IS ON A SCHOOL GROUNDS, HELLO!!!!!!! Kids are like sheep, otherwise we would not need school. I know there is historical signifigence here, but none of these trees belong on a school grounds. If this was Durham Park, where they fall all the time or Bidwell Park, yes, rope it off, but it is not. It is where 100 kids on a average frequent it in a day, and are not thinking about a limb dropping. Like Beth, THINK!!!!!
Shut up

Chico, CA

#22 Aug 6, 2010
All of you against cutting this tree down are amazing. ITS A TREE! The fact that you are willing to risk a kids life over this tree is disgusting. You're all a bunch of idiots with nothing to do but complain. I just want to read some news and I get sucked in to your pointless blogging. Its not your call, so everyone just shut up and get a job. Like I said before, ITS A TREE!

Since: Jun 10

Los Molinos, CA

#23 Aug 6, 2010
Durham wrote:
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Ok "bethvoice" as if this is any of your business. Lets say you live in Durham and your kid goes to school here, and likes the tree enough to sit on one of the benches under it everyday. Now I know you did not see the rot on the limb that fell, but it was bad. I also had a tree just like this one that dropped 3 good size limbs, before we called an arborist. One said we can keep it, one said, it is dying, take it out. WOW, i am glad we took it out. Because when we got it down, there was rot in the main trunck of the tree. So, lets say we keep it, we don't know what is in the rest of it, but oak trees have a history for rot. Would you be OK, with your child frequenting that tree often, and why would'nt they, it is a school grounds? That Arborist made a hell of a lot of money, but would that be worth your peace of mind, when you, or anyone else's kid is crushed??? Sure, Kimmleshue says the odds are slim, for now, but look at Durham school District. This guy is one of the idiots that has taken us to where we are. Ya, lets trust him this time, when now instead of gambling money, we will gamble lives. IT WAS THE RIGHT DECISION, because it was on a school grounds. Go to Durham Park, they have at least 20 limbs a year go down. They use the same arborist. THINK BETH.
Durham: You assume because I do not live there, that I don't travel out of the city once in awhile to see the sights of Durham? You assume I may not know anyone who resides there who may just happen to have a student or two attending Durham High School? I've resided in this community for close to 32 years and I used to also work in Durham and have known and still do know families living there. If I read a article in a newspaper and I find I care enough about it then yes I'll comment....just like you and others are doing. I simply don't agree this tree should have been removed. You are of course entitiled to your opinions on this as well. It's my guess DUSD had to hire and get the opinion of an arborist ? One of those mandated school policies or state laws? Okay, yes the arborist was paid to do an assessment and give his opinion. Did you expect him to do this for free? Do you work and expect to be paid nothing for your services to others? Do district officials work for free too? I too think that teens who go to Durham High and yes younger kids too have this thing called a BRAIN and EARS to hear and EYES to see. I credit young people with using all of these gifts to move out of the way of a limb coming down. I'm not one who thinks we have to always hit the "panic and fear button" and run wild with "what if's".
Durham

Chico, CA

#24 Aug 7, 2010
bethevoice wrote:
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Durham: You assume because I do not live there, that I don't travel out of the city once in awhile to see the sights of Durham? You assume I may not know anyone who resides there who may just happen to have a student or two attending Durham High School? I've resided in this community for close to 32 years and I used to also work in Durham and have known and still do know families living there. If I read a article in a newspaper and I find I care enough about it then yes I'll comment....just like you and others are doing. I simply don't agree this tree should have been removed. You are of course entitiled to your opinions on this as well. It's my guess DUSD had to hire and get the opinion of an arborist ? One of those mandated school policies or state laws? Okay, yes the arborist was paid to do an assessment and give his opinion. Did you expect him to do this for free? Do you work and expect to be paid nothing for your services to others? Do district officials work for free too? I too think that teens who go to Durham High and yes younger kids too have this thing called a BRAIN and EARS to hear and EYES to see. I credit young people with using all of these gifts to move out of the way of a limb coming down. I'm not one who thinks we have to always hit the "panic and fear button" and run wild with "what if's".
Wow, now I know what I am dealing with, I hope you were not a teacher. No one assumed or cares weather you have lived or visited Durham. Just because you have resided in the area for 32 years, gives you no credability, to say the board was wrong in thier decision. Arborist may be tree profesionals, but they still do not know what is "inside" the tree. Usually, if these things start dropping limbs they continue. The arborist from Chico, her assessment, was not good enough. Trim it, cable it, then rope it off. Let me spell this out for you again Beth. IT IS ON A SCHOOL GROUND, WHERE THERE ARE A LOT OF CHILDREN. And if you have been there like you say, it is close to the buildings where the kids go to school. If a grown man a couple of weeks ago could not get out of the way, and yes, he had eyes and ears, what makes you feel kids can get out of the way faster. Ever seen one of these things come down? It happens fast. If the tree was in a park or shopping center or somewhere where it was alright to "rope things off" that would be fine. BUT it is not Beth, it is a school grounds. Again THINK BETH, about other people like the board did, and not what you want. BTY, way to dance around my previous post. You probably still won't get it.

Since: Jun 10

Los Molinos, CA

#25 Aug 7, 2010
Durham wrote:
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Wow, now I know what I am dealing with, I hope you were not a teacher. No one assumed or cares weather you have lived or visited Durham. Just because you have resided in the area for 32 years, gives you no credability, to say the board was wrong in thier decision. Arborist may be tree profesionals, but they still do not know what is "inside" the tree. Usually, if these things start dropping limbs they continue. The arborist from Chico, her assessment, was not good enough. Trim it, cable it, then rope it off. Let me spell this out for you again Beth. IT IS ON A SCHOOL GROUND, WHERE THERE ARE A LOT OF CHILDREN. And if you have been there like you say, it is close to the buildings where the kids go to school. If a grown man a couple of weeks ago could not get out of the way, and yes, he had eyes and ears, what makes you feel kids can get out of the way faster. Ever seen one of these things come down? It happens fast. If the tree was in a park or shopping center or somewhere where it was alright to "rope things off" that would be fine. BUT it is not Beth, it is a school grounds. Again THINK BETH, about other people like the board did, and not what you want. BTY, way to dance around my previous post. You probably still won't get it.
Durham, why did you exit the "gate of hate" and so rudely say, " As if it's any of your business ?" I noticed others also don't think the tree needed to be removed and you did not go on some stark raving tangent against them? It came across to me as though as if you were saying since I'm from Chico....it's none of my concern. Why, don't you explain your "gate of hate" comment to me.......and rather than do it on this forum send me an email directly to "[email protected]" As I said before I've got every right to express my opinion....same as you. I think you should spend a little more time with nature.....try taking a picnic out to the Durham Park and relax and sit under a nice shade tree.

Since: Sep 08

Location hidden

#26 Aug 7, 2010
bethevoice has my personnel invitation to say anything she wants to about Durham! Even though she does not need it.
ChicoLaw

United States

#27 Aug 11, 2010
Durhamites are small-cranium, low-thinkers. As I've said, leave the tree in place and let natural selection run its course. If the kid is too stupid (like their parents), then they'll be out of the gene pool. This is a GOOD thing.
Durhamite

Chico, CA

#28 Aug 11, 2010
Too bad all you enviromental wackos are'nt gonna get your way on this one. THE TREE IS GOING DOWN. WHAAAA WHAAAAA.

Since: Jul 10

Location hidden

#29 Aug 11, 2010
ChicoLaw wrote:
Durhamites are small-cranium, low-thinkers. As I've said, leave the tree in place and let natural selection run its course. If the kid is too stupid (like their parents), then they'll be out of the gene pool. This is a GOOD thing.
Natural selection is running it's course, the tree is old and in decline and it is falling apart. Man is just going to give it a going away party.

“AccountKiller”

Since: Jul 09

Location hidden

#30 Aug 11, 2010
I don't think anyone in Chico can judge the people of Durham for felling one tree after what we let the city council do to the downtown plaza. I'm always saddened to see an old tree go, however, hicks, in general, know a hell of a lot more about trees & when to or when to not fell them than any city slicker ever will.
Durhamite

Chico, CA

#31 Aug 11, 2010
4thGenChico wrote:
I don't think anyone in Chico can judge the people of Durham for felling one tree after what we let the city council do to the downtown plaza. I'm always saddened to see an old tree go, however, hicks, in general, know a hell of a lot more about trees & when to or when to not fell them than any city slicker ever will.
RIGHT ON, COULD NOT SAY IT BETTER MYSELF!!!!!
Farmer Joe

Chico, CA

#32 Aug 11, 2010
Beth, Stephens, Chico Law,
First of all, after reading the biggest post, Beth, you are an idoit. The other two are not far behind. You guys know nothing about these trees and what they are capable of doing. All you want to do is sit under them and enjoy the beauty of it all. You are all clueless enviromental wack jobs as it was put just a few post ago. Here is something to learn. When those type of trees start dropping limbs, it continues, it is the oaks way of saying "something is wrong". Find one in Durham Park that has dropped a few limbs, and go sit under it on a hot day, take a nap, maybe you won't wake up.
Ladnick

United States

#33 Aug 11, 2010
Can we jump back into Jimmy's topic about his hearing yesterday? Forget venting about this tree, let's vent in the other topic about how horrible Jimmy is.

Since: Jul 10

Location hidden

#34 Aug 11, 2010
These people that think that a tree will live forever haven't a clue. It would be like someone going to the hospital and they tell you that there is something major wrong with you. They say that they can slow down the problem if they remove your right leg. Then a month later, they say that they need to remove your left arm, and this goes on for several months. At the end, they say that the only way to stop the deteriation is to remove the head. Really saved the person, just like what they would have to do to the oak.
Durham Educater

Chico, CA

#35 Aug 11, 2010
All the arborist that say the tree can be saved, also mapped out an extensive maintanence plan that cost a lot of money on a regular basis. I have sat through many a district board meeting, trying to save a once great school district, strapped by State cuts and lay offs. So, for those of you crying about taking the tree out, who is going to pay all this maintenance money to keep the tree living? You Beth? how bout' you stephens? Then, what if a tragedy does happen? You got enough money to buy a kids life, Chico law? Nah, that when you enviros become all quiet, huh. Let me also add that some of the environmentalist that have put out, through all thier legislation to make this state cleaner state, bills that have cost us dearly to our state budget, and who pays? The schools. So, YOU WANT THE TREE, LAY DOWN THE MONEY TO SVE IT, otherwise, shut your pieholes.
Country-Boy

Jersey City, NJ

#36 Aug 11, 2010
Durham Educater wrote:
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As an "educator" please spell the word correctly, otherwise shut your...
Durham Educateor

Chico, CA

#37 Aug 11, 2010
Country-Boy wrote:
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As an "educator" please spell the word correctly, otherwise shut your...
Owww, sorry, typo, they happen D#ckhead.
No Place to Hide

Paradise, CA

#38 Aug 11, 2010
Durham Educateor wrote:
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Owww, sorry, typo, they happen D#ckhead.
Typo? "E" is nowhere near "O" on my keyboard.

Since: Jul 10

Location hidden

#39 Aug 11, 2010
How many misspelled words and the wrong use of words can one "Educator"use in one paragraph? If I had written that paragraph in the 4th grade, I would have at best, gotten a D-.
tolio

Chico, CA

#40 Aug 12, 2010
RB Gerber wrote:
How many misspelled words and the wrong use of words can one "Educator"use in one paragraph? If I had written that paragraph in the 4th grade, I would have at best, gotten a D-.
Ya, the post has a few mistakes, but I agree with what is said in the post. Who will pay for the maintenance of this tree, being it is on a school ground where a district is trying to make ends meet? All you people that want to keep it, step up instead of bickering about it. I am sure the district board would have thought about keeping it, if there was a way to pay for it. The state sure as heck is not going to do it, and the district certainly can not.

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