Arguing With Liberials Pointless

Arguing With Liberials Pointless

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Godfrey

Yuba City, CA

#1 Jul 19, 2014
The way to defeat Liberalism is to starve it. That means cut the money off. We all can do that in our own way. Think about how Government gets money and do what you have to do, but legally...
The right is wrong

Lincoln, CA

#2 Jul 19, 2014
The way to defeat repubicans is to starve them. That means cut the money off. We all can do that in our own way. Think about how repubicans get their money and do what you have to do, but legally by patronizing employee owned businesses like the Golden One and WINNCO.

I also make it a point to only patronize businesses that employ union workers.
HaagenHut Now

Paradise, CA

#3 Jul 19, 2014
The right is wrong wrote:
The way to defeat repubicans is to starve them. That means cut the money off. We all can do that in our own way. Think about how repubicans get their money and do what you have to do, but legally by patronizing employee owned businesses like the Golden One and WINNCO.
I also make it a point to only patronize businesses that employ union workers.
Then you like to pay more for your goods? Union stores are more expensive for the same brands. I find them to be a poor value for my money and union employees are usually less attentive to their customers because their job security is less dependent upon their job performance then at will employees.
The right is wrong

Lincoln, CA

#4 Jul 19, 2014
Wrong on all counts except that SOME union shops charge more. Safeway service stations are staffed by union members and their fuel prices are comparable to say Chevron, Union Oil and Shell. So why patronize say Shell where the attendant makes minimum wage and the fuel is the same price as Safeway.

WINNCO, Costco prices are the same as wally -mart butt All the employees of WINNCO, Costco have sick leave, medical, vacation and other perks PLUS higher wages.

I don't mind paying my hard earned money when I know it's going to the people who work for it.
KKK tBagger Terrorists

Blaine, WA

#5 Jul 19, 2014
HaagenHut Now wrote:
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Then you like to pay more for your goods? Union stores are more expensive for the same brands. I find them to be a poor value for my money and union employees are usually less attentive to their customers because their job security is less dependent upon their job performance then at will employees.
What a typical Tea bagger IDIOT Generalization!

Without Unions there would be NO MIDDLE CLASS in this country! HaagenSlut the Danish Nazi would love to recreate a Hitler Nazi Economy whose success was based on SLAVE LABOR and discrimination.

Thus the Tea Bagger Republican have the PLANTATION SOCIETY as their Goal! F'n KKK Tea Baggers!
The right is wrong

Lincoln, CA

#6 Jul 19, 2014
KKK tBagger Terrorists wrote:
<quoted text>What a typical Tea bagger IDIOT Generalization!
Without Unions there would be NO MIDDLE CLASS in this country! HaagenSlut the Danish Nazi would love to recreate a Hitler Nazi Economy whose success was based on SLAVE LABOR and discrimination.
Thus the Tea Bagger Republican have the PLANTATION SOCIETY as their Goal! F'n KKK Tea Baggers!
You're 100% correct. As the union membership shrinks, so does the middle class.
GRANDPA NICOLAI

Chico, CA

#7 Jul 20, 2014
The right is wrong wrote:
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You're 100% correct. As the union membership shrinks, so does the middle class.
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That is 100 % CORRECT!

The unions started losing their clout under Reagan and that is about the time the middle class begun it's long decline.
HaagenHut Now

Paradise, CA

#8 Jul 20, 2014
Unions are about their upper class leadership and the political cronyism that can be funded by all of those dues. The unions are as much a part of the fabric of our problems as the global corporatists that bribe our stupid and useless politicians.

As usual, Grandpa has it completely wrong!
HaagenHut Now

Paradise, CA

#9 Jul 20, 2014
Grandpa seems to conveniently forget that unions lobbied very hard to get themselves exempted from the "wonderful" obamacare. Always remember, socialism if for the masses, not the socialist elites!
GRANDPA NICOLAI

Chico, CA

#10 Jul 20, 2014
HaagenHut Now wrote:
Unions are about their upper class leadership and the political cronyism that can be funded by all of those dues. The unions are as much a part of the fabric of our problems as the global corporatists that bribe our stupid and useless politicians.
As usual, Grandpa has it completely wrong!
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Welcome to the real world HANGINGNUT!!

It is all about the almighty buck, and bucks is what all you conservatives want to throw at those who need them the least in the hope that some of those bucks will "trickle down" into your wallets.

But guess what?

Your wallets are growing thinner because...

You all have been and are continued to be duped big time by the monied class!!!
The right is wrong

Lincoln, CA

#11 Jul 20, 2014
HaagenHut Now wrote:
Grandpa seems to conveniently forget that unions lobbied very hard to get themselves exempted from the "wonderful" obamacare. Always remember, socialism if for the masses, not the socialist elites!
Hey moron, unions lobbied to be excluded from the Affordable Care Act because they already had coverage much like the ACA provided.

You see moron, because of my union I've got Kaiser and can/will be treated for anything anywhere in this country and most union health plans allow their members to be treated anywhere and that union plan will pay the bill.

Gad you're stupid!
The right is wrong

Lincoln, CA

#12 Jul 20, 2014
GRANDPA NICOLAI wrote:
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Welcome to the real world HANGINGNUT!!
It is all about the almighty buck, and bucks is what all you conservatives want to throw at those who need them the least in the hope that some of those bucks will "trickle down" into your wallets.
But guess what?
Your wallets are growing thinner because...
You all have been and are continued to be duped big time by the monied class!!!
Like ronnie -ray-gun said, "it's easier to control the ignorant masses then educated people" and repubicans are lemmings.
the way forward

Blaine, WA

#13 Jul 20, 2014
The right is wrong wrote:
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You're 100% correct. As the union membership shrinks, so does the middle class.
You are both right butttttttt!!!! DO NOT forget that as in all organizations the Unions overstepped their goal and purpose and became extraordinarily Corrupt. There is no argument about that. In essence they screwed themselves in the public's eyes and paid the price.

Unions are still one of the VERY MOST IMPORTANT methods to maintain a middle class and a HEALTHY COUNTRY! No Question about it!!!!!

Learning from the past and fixing the problems is part of the recipe for a successful American Future.
GRANDPA NICOLAI

Chico, CA

#14 Jul 20, 2014
the way forward wrote:
<quoted text>You are both right butttttttt!!!! DO NOT forget that as in all organizations the Unions overstepped their goal and purpose and became extraordinarily Corrupt. There is no argument about that. In essence they screwed themselves in the public's eyes and paid the price.
Unions are still one of the VERY MOST IMPORTANT methods to maintain a middle class and a HEALTHY COUNTRY! No Question about it!!!!!
Learning from the past and fixing the problems is part of the recipe for a successful American Future.
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You got a good point, many unions slid into corruption, butů

why not when our corporations, courts and politicians pointed the way??

We ought to reform them all instead of throwing the babies with the water.
Good now fetch tBagger

United States

#16 Jul 26, 2014
HaagenHut Now wrote:
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Then you like to pay more for your goods? Union stores are more expensive for the same brands. I find them to be a poor value for my money and union employees are usually less attentive to their customers because their job security is less dependent upon their job performance then at will employees.
Ah ya Danish Nazi princess, when the Railroads were owned by the Vanderbuilt's, the rates for shipment were arbitrarily set. They could starve you, Break you, Bankrupt you, ignore you, help you. Their Rail Lines Easements were GIVEN TO THEM by their US Bought and Sold Government.

THANK GOD for TEDDY ROOSEVELT and, sorry to say it, The ASSASSINATION of McKinley, the HAND PICKED PRESIDENT of JP MORGAN and friends! If the TRUSTS had not been broken it is likely we would be speaking GERMAN today, after of course the MASS DESTRUCTION of all non ARYAN Americans.

This is what you Idiot Tea Bagger Republicans propose to go back to. Yeah, you are IDIOTS!!! Likewise Stupid as the dirt GOD made you from!

Now go fetch like good little doggies!
Good now fetch tBagger

United States

#17 Jul 26, 2014
GRANDPA NICOLAI wrote:
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You got a good point, many unions slid into corruption, butů
why not when our corporations, courts and politicians pointed the way??
We ought to reform them all instead of throwing the babies with the water.
BINGO Gramps!!!!! You are soooo right on!

We need another Teddy Roosevelt, the Bull Moose for the PEOPLE and the COUNTRY!
The right is wrong

Lincoln, CA

#18 Jul 26, 2014
Quite telling when threads on this forum keep dying when the misinformation and/or outright lies posted by pseudo repubican intellectuals and/or mindless right -wing lemmings is rebutted.
Godfrey

Yuba City, CA

#19 Jul 26, 2014
The right is wrong wrote:
Quite telling when threads on this forum keep dying when the misinformation and/or outright lies posted by pseudo repubican intellectuals and/or mindless right -wing lemmings is rebutted.
Holy crap you are a spasmatic crazy humpty dump. Hey bud, millions of us don't give a rats about Republicans, get that thru that thick skull of yours. Screw Republicans that aren't conservatives, get it, got it?
MooCow

Paradise, CA

#20 Jul 26, 2014
GRANDPA NICOLAI wrote:
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That is 100 % CORRECT!
The unions started losing their clout under Reagan and that is about the time the middle class begun it's long decline.
According to a 1996 study by the Cato Institute think tank, on 8 of the 10 key economic variables examined, the American economy performed better during the Reagan years than during the pre- and post-Reagan years. Real median family income grew by $4,000 during the Reagan period after experiencing no growth in the pre-Reagan years; it experienced a loss of almost $1,500 in the post-Reagan years. Interest rates, inflation, and unemployment fell faster under Reagan than they did immediately before or after his presidency. The only economic variable that was lower during period than in both the pre- and post-Reagan years was the savings rate, which fell rapidly in the 1980s. The productivity rate was higher in the pre-Reagan years but lower in the post-Reagan years.

Economist Stephen Moore stated in the Cato analysis, "No act in the last quarter century had a more profound impact on the U.S. economy of the eighties and nineties than the Reagan tax cut of 1981." He claims that Reagan's tax cuts, combined with an emphasis on federal monetary policy, deregulation, and expansion of free trade created a sustained economic expansion creating America's greatest sustained wave of prosperity ever. He also claims that the American economy grew by more than a third in size, producing a $15 trillion increase in American wealth. Consumer and investor confidence soared. Cutting federal income taxes, cutting the U.S. government spending budget, cutting useless programs, scaling down the government work force, maintaining low interest rates, and keeping a watchful inflation hedge on the monetary supply was Ronald Reagan's formula for a successful economic turnaround.
Krankenstein

Chico, CA

#21 Jul 26, 2014
MooCow wrote:
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According to a 1996 study by the Cato Institute think tank, on 8 of the 10 key economic variables examined, the American economy performed better during the Reagan years than during the pre- and post-Reagan years. Real median family income grew by $4,000 during the Reagan period after experiencing no growth in the pre-Reagan years; it experienced a loss of almost $1,500 in the post-Reagan years. Interest rates, inflation, and unemployment fell faster under Reagan than they did immediately before or after his presidency. The only economic variable that was lower during period than in both the pre- and post-Reagan years was the savings rate, which fell rapidly in the 1980s. The productivity rate was higher in the pre-Reagan years but lower in the post-Reagan years.
Economist Stephen Moore stated in the Cato analysis, "No act in the last quarter century had a more profound impact on the U.S. economy of the eighties and nineties than the Reagan tax cut of 1981." He claims that Reagan's tax cuts, combined with an emphasis on federal monetary policy, deregulation, and expansion of free trade created a sustained economic expansion creating America's greatest sustained wave of prosperity ever. He also claims that the American economy grew by more than a third in size, producing a $15 trillion increase in American wealth. Consumer and investor confidence soared. Cutting federal income taxes, cutting the U.S. government spending budget, cutting useless programs, scaling down the government work force, maintaining low interest rates, and keeping a watchful inflation hedge on the monetary supply was Ronald Reagan's formula for a successful economic turnaround.
Great quote, it is precisely what happened and is what made Reagan one of our greatest Presidents of all time. Reagan was all about the power of the individual and limiting the power of government. Government creates inefficiency because bureaucracy wrests control from local people for its own sake but has no solution or common sense strategy about the way things work.

The bigger our government gets, the worse off we will all become.

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