What If Hillary Had Won?
Posted in the Chico Forum
#1 Feb 25, 2018
What if Hillary had won-- but had all the Russian baggage that Trump has?
Let's pretend that her campaign executives met with Russians because the Russians had promised that they "had dirt" on Trump. And she tried to find a "back channel" way to communicate with the Russians, so that our security agencies couldn't know what she and the Russians were talking about. And her top National Security Advisor was overheard telling the Russians that Hillary was going to get rid of our sanctions against Russia, leading to his arrest.
And she fired the head of the FBI, telling Lester Holt on national TV that she fired him because of that "Russia thing". And she had a meeting with the Russian ambassador in the Oval Office, where no American reporters or photographers were allowed, telling him that they're now safe because "I got Comey off my back".
The list goes on and on.
So, what if the shoe was on the other foot? Would the dems be backing her when she said that "this Russian thing is all a hoax, because the Republicans just can't accept that they lost"?
I don't think so. In fact I, for one, would be for her impeachment. Many dems would be for her impeachment.
The pundits like to say that our country's politics are now completely "tribal". That we're either for one side or the other, like the crowd at a football game. I think that most republicans ARE tribal. They just hate those bleeding heart/commie/anti-2nd amendment/abortionist liberals.
But the majority of democrats try to be reasonable, objective, and issue oriented. They don't want our politics to be just one side against the other.
Because they know that United we Stand, and Divided we Fall. And the dems would not want our country to be sold out to Putin.
#2 Feb 26, 2018
Careful there PHOENIX!FirstBothTeaPee...
Wouldn't want to strain your arm patting yourself on they back like that...
You have all the sincerity of a coiled rattlesnake you delusional old fool...
I have said it before... you are a LOUSY ACTOR...
And the only applause you are going to get is from your own little hands...
You are just sad... sad and pathetic...!!!
#3 Feb 26, 2018
Excellent post SOLUTION!
As you point out above, this entire Trump affair totally lays bare the unmitigated and wide ranging hypocrisy and fickleness of the conservative mindset.
It was almost entertaining to watch the alacrity with which the right wingers chose to discard their long held values down the wayside in order to back their man.
Gone are their feigned concerns for family values, for propriety, law and order, decorum, and, sadly, their respect for our most cherished institutions and for the very Country they call home.
It is unfortunate your incisive words go over the vacuous heads of the likes of Mathilda, Citizen and others whose only purpose is to serve their master Putin by sowing malicious discord in America.
Keep the great posts coming SOLUTION!!
#4 Feb 26, 2018
The Trumpeteers are NOT conservatives, they're cult members. Like in any cult, the members won't listen to "outsiders" (anyone not in their cult), and believe only the words of their leader.
And these cult members include Paul Ryan, Mitch McConnell, and most other republicans.
Republicans used to care about law and order, but now they tear down the FBI, and any national security agency, even when they're Trump appointees-- if those organizations are investigating their leader and his cohorts.
Repub politicians used to listen to their constituency, but now they're only passing laws that help their rich donors get richer. Now we coastal states are going to experience unfettered oil drilling all along our coasts. The big oil companies love it. The states on the coast are going to have to deal with the inevitable oil spills and pollution. And that means you and me.
Repubs used to hate the rising national debt, but now they've added 1.5 trillion to our debt by passing a tax bill that shovels more money to huge, global corporations and the super-rich, while throwing the rest of us a couple of dollars.
And the vast majority of our citizens, including repubs, want stricter gun safety, but just watch the repub politicians buckle to the power of the NRA and the gun manufacturers.
#5 Mar 11, 2018
What is truly sad is that the right wing extremists traded their so called "family values" and America just to be able to say their useless candidate made it to the White House...
Isn't that so, Republicans...???
#6 Mar 11, 2018
Oh I know how those filthy Republican deplorables acted when obuma was elected banning Republican speakers from college campuses throwing things through windows protesting starting fires and fights oh it was just awful ! Making video games where our dear President Obuma was being murdered , holding his severed head wanting to overthrow him from the start ! Yes that was just childish and pathetic ! Oh sorry I made a mistake that wasn't Berry that was when we got SICK of the lies and cheating ways of the dematurds that's right brought in a new sheriff to drain the swamp ! Clean up the money laundering fix immigration lower taxes healthcare ! Yes its well on its way and he is doing a wonderful job and added bonus getting all the ugliness out and restoring good old family values , who would have figured the dems would let their Congress men take photos of themselves groping a sleeping women's breasts ? Or holding a meeting in his office in his underwear lol yep real family guys
#7 Mar 12, 2018
No, you guys merely said you would not work with PRESIDENT BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA and would make sure he would fail and go down as a one term President, you called him a liar during his first State Of The Union Speech, portrayed him as an African voodoo doctor, made him the recipient of an inordinate number of death threats, constantly referred to his lovely wife as Moochele and desperately tried to convince every intelligent person that he was not born In the USA.
But he unpleasantly surprised the right-wing-tards by passing OBAMACARE, saving the American auto industry, restoring the American economy and his policies initiated the longest job creation streak in our history and which continues to this day, he accomplished it all and more with the RepubliTARDS running daily interference during during the 8 years of his successful administration.
Right wing extremists got sick and tired of America rocketing to the top of the world again, that's why you guys got so easily duped by the Russians and voted in a sheriff whose family values consist of money laundering, colluding with our biggest adversary, lying, name calling, grabbing women by their P&***s, and some pretty STORMY storms...
CONSERVATIVE FAMILY VALUES at their best!!!
#9 Mar 12, 2018
First, try to write coherently. It's impossible to understand what you're saying, but I get your drift. Regarding lies, Trump lies every day. He got a much huger crowd than Obama...He'll protect Medicare and Medicaid...He'll make those billionaire hedge fund managers pay a fair income tax...He'll fund his own campaign so that he won't be beholden to Big Money people...
Cheating? How about colluding with Russians during and after the election? How about trying to get a back-channel communication going with Putin? How about his businesses profiting from him being president? What about firing Comey and wanting to fire Mueller because they're investigating him?
Drain the swamp? He's got a cabinet of idiots and self-centered billionaires who care nothing about the country and everything about themselves-- just like Trump himself.
Cleaning up money laundering? He and Jared are the kings of money laundering, as are a few others in his cabinet. Yes, he lowered taxes-- for himself, global corporations and the super-rich. The rest of us break even or get a few dollars dropped our way. And he's destroyed healthcare, with nothing to take its place. I thought he was going to replace Obamacare with something cheaper, better, and would include everyone.
He's restoring family values? You must be kidding.
#10 Mar 12, 2018
Wow spinning the same lies and fake news , you dems really don't realize you have done nothing all year but sit on you're azzes and complain lol , do you understand they are not doing anything ? are they soppose to be doing some sort of work ? Putting some sort of tax plan together? Anything except nothing ? I mean they are there but no productivity lol are you just ok with that ? I can see it now - vote for us Trump ate 3 cheeseburgers one day lol
#11 Mar 12, 2018
Pretty incoherent, once again.
I responded to your post with specific points, and you have no response to my points. You're just another dumb Trump cult member.
#12 Mar 12, 2018
Lol yes anytime somebody asks a question about the lazy sit on you're butt dems it is incoherent ? Maybe its because you have no answers ? Maybe its ok for them to be paid like you with our hard earned tax dollars to do nothing ? What ever you understood
#13 Mar 13, 2018
#14 Mar 13, 2018
It doesn't sound like your first language is English.
#16 Mar 13, 2018
You know Tea Pee...
For someonewho claims to be a super genius with a Masters Degree in English you sure don't know much about languages...
Russian 'da' and 'nyet' do not mean what English 'yes' and 'no' mean. English is somehow unusual as for the meaning of its 'yes' and 'no', as compared to other languages. In this respect Russian is closer to Japanese, than to English.
Russian 'da' means "I agree with what you say, you are right", Russian 'nyet' means "I disagree with what you say, you are wrong", while English 'yes' means "What you say reflects the actual state of things" and English 'no' means "What you say does not reflect the actual state of things."
#17 Mar 13, 2018
You know TWeeP...
SOLUTION'S use of the word NYET was accurate enough to get you in the ball park.
But thank you for the lesson in Russian and Japanese, you polyglot you!
#18 Mar 13, 2018
Now isn't that precious...?
Old "First Amendment" defending his little buddy old "Tea Pee"...!
Well... I guess that Super Genius $uper Rich Millionaire liberals have to stick together....!
"BUTT" old "Tea Pee" really should call that "secret" Ivy League University that he got his "Masters Degree" in English and demand his money back...
#19 Mar 13, 2018
Either you are just a propagandist or have no idea what you are talking about. You people have lost your collective minds. All you have to do is listen to what that person named Hillary Clinton said in flipping India. I have an idea for you if you think Democrats are reasonable, objective and issue oriented. You should actually listen to what they say. God, you are a joke. No more nice talk with the insanity that has become the Left, forget it.
#20 Mar 13, 2018
You just can't discuss the points that I made, can you? None of you can
Sad and pathetic.
#21 Mar 13, 2018
Up until now this has been nice talk? Look out Topix he's about to go nuclear!
We certainly hear enough of what Trump says, why is it not ok to hear Hillary too? Turnabout used to be fair play, maybe not so much now...
#22 Mar 13, 2018
You want me to discuss stuff with insane people. Pathetic. But lets try this. You know what business concerns were from about 2006 until 2016. I was taxes and regulations. You what it is now? It is if they can find qualified workers to fill jobs. Know what that tells me? It tells me Trump is undoing Obama crap. So grow up.
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