Michigan: is now a right to work state

Michigan: is now a right to work state

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Local

Hidden Valley Lake, CA

#1 Dec 11, 2012
Right-to-work signed into law in Michigan
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-250_162-57558532/...

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Since: May 08

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#2 Dec 11, 2012
Local wrote:
Right-to-work signed into law in Michigan
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-250_162-57558532/...
The daylight is drawing to a close for the unions.......Goodbye and good riddance......
TWP

Cisco, IL

#3 Dec 11, 2012
Obama and his "useful idiot" Democrat Stooges may have stolen the election...

But thank God that there are still Freedom Loving American Patriots like the citizens Michigan who told the Union Thug's and their Democrat Bosses to "take a hike" and keep their grubby hands off our paychecks...!!!

Remember... the "Real Americans" only lost this election by just over 1 percentage point...!

This election was only the 1st. battle of the war to take back our Freedoms and Liberty from the tyranny of the National Socialist Democrat Workers Party and their Fuhrer and Messiah Barack Hussein Obama...!

Good work Michigan...!

Now on to the rest of the Country...!!!

“Government IS the problem.”

Since: Jan 08

Chico, CA

#4 Dec 11, 2012
Did you see the video of the union thugs attacking media people? Disgusting behaviour by union members. They should be jailed.

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Why are unions so against their fellow countrymen having jobs?
GRANDPA NICOLAI

Chico, CA

#5 Dec 11, 2012
Sam Lowree wrote:
Why are unions so against their fellow countrymen having jobs?
Because they don't like greedy free loading conservatives who want all the benefits and protection the unions offer but do not want to pay the dues...????

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#6 Dec 11, 2012
Sam Lowree wrote:
Did you see the video of the union thugs attacking media people? Disgusting behaviour by union members. They should be jailed.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =u_F3oev06i0XX&feature=pla yer_embedded
Why are unions so against their fellow countrymen having jobs?
Typical liberals..........Only they should have guns.......

“Government IS the problem.”

Since: Jan 08

Chico, CA

#7 Dec 11, 2012
GRANDPA NICOLAI wrote:
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Because they don't like greedy free loading conservatives who want all the benefits and protection the unions offer but do not want to pay the dues...????
The unions don't care about the union workers. The union bosses care about their revenue stream. As a former union employee I do know how it works. The unions are all to happy to collect their dues but really don't care about their members. What gives any employee, union or not, the right to dictate to their employer their wages or benefit packages? What would you tell your lawn guy if he demanded you pay more than you wanted to pay to cut your lawn plus provide him with health, dental and vision care while you are at it?
GRANDPA NICOLAI

Chico, CA

#8 Dec 12, 2012
Sam Lowree wrote:
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The unions don't care about the union workers. The union bosses care about their revenue stream. As a former union employee I do know how it works. The unions are all to happy to collect their dues but really don't care about their members. What gives any employee, union or not, the right to dictate to their employer their wages or benefit packages? What would you tell your lawn guy if he demanded you pay more than you wanted to pay to cut your lawn plus provide him with health, dental and vision care while you are at it?
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Not true!

I was a union employee at one time myself, and like you, at first I resented the union but after a number of years I saw that they serve a valid purpose.

I have yet to see a church that does not pass the donations platter every sunday, so why would you or anyone expect the unions not to collect fees from their members..?

The unions doe not "dictate" wages nor benefit packages, it is all negotiated, and if the employer is not willing to negotiate in good faith, then a strike vote is taken, and if successful, the employees throw the ball back to the employer by withholding their labor...

BTW, can you imagine the mess we would have if a company with 10,000 rank and file employees had to negotiate 10,000 separate contracts...???

I have never had my pool guy nor my gardner ask me for a pay raise because at the end of every year I give each one of them a tip equivalent to several times their monthly pay...

“Government IS the problem.”

Since: Jan 08

Chico, CA

#9 Dec 12, 2012
GRANDPA NICOLAI wrote:
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Not true!
I was a union employee at one time myself, and like you, at first I resented the union but after a number of years I saw that they serve a valid purpose.
I have yet to see a church that does not pass the donations platter every sunday, so why would you or anyone expect the unions not to collect fees from their members..?
The unions doe not "dictate" wages nor benefit packages, it is all negotiated, and if the employer is not willing to negotiate in good faith, then a strike vote is taken, and if successful, the employees throw the ball back to the employer by withholding their labor...
BTW, can you imagine the mess we would have if a company with 10,000 rank and file employees had to negotiate 10,000 separate contracts...???
I have never had my pool guy nor my gardner ask me for a pay raise because at the end of every year I give each one of them a tip equivalent to several times their monthly pay...
Putting money in an offering plate is done of one's own volition, paying union dues is done without a union member's permission.

The biggest part of union dues go to paying for union administration costs, paying the union bosses, and buying off politicians. The last union I was in gave millions to the John Kerry campaign.

I didn't ask if your gardener had ever asked for a big raise, I asked you what you would do if he did and threatened not to do the work if you didn't comply with his wishes.
GRANDPA NICOLAI

Chico, CA

#10 Dec 12, 2012
Sam Lowree wrote:
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Putting money in an offering plate is done of one's own volition, paying union dues is done without a union member's permission.
The biggest part of union dues go to paying for union administration costs, paying the union bosses, and buying off politicians. The last union I was in gave millions to the John Kerry campaign.
I didn't ask if your gardener had ever asked for a big raise, I asked you what you would do if he did and threatened not to do the work if you didn't comply with his wishes.
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Yea?

Well, you just go ahead and join a church and make no offerings ever and then we will talk about it...

So you resented the union giving millions to the John Kerry campaign and buying politicians but you were OK with the company buying politicians, lobbyists and giving millions to Bush..???

I have a good gardner who goes above and beyond, I would have no qualms in giving him a significant raise, after all, unlike me, he works for a living and has got a family to support....

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#11 Dec 12, 2012
GRANDPA NICOLAI wrote:
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Because they don't like greedy free loading conservatives who want all the benefits and protection the unions offer but do not want to pay the dues...????
Once again you prove how stupid you are........

This is about people that don't want anything from the union and don't want to give anything to the union.......

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#12 Dec 12, 2012
GRANDPA NICOLAI wrote:
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Not true!
I was a union employee at one time myself, and like you, at first I resented the union but after a number of years I saw that they serve a valid purpose.
I have yet to see a church that does not pass the donations platter every sunday, so why would you or anyone expect the unions not to collect fees from their members..?
The unions doe not "dictate" wages nor benefit packages, it is all negotiated, and if the employer is not willing to negotiate in good faith, then a strike vote is taken, and if successful, the employees throw the ball back to the employer by withholding their labor...
BTW, can you imagine the mess we would have if a company with 10,000 rank and file employees had to negotiate 10,000 separate contracts...???
I have never had my pool guy nor my gardner ask me for a pay raise because at the end of every year I give each one of them a tip equivalent to several times their monthly pay...
Yes a moron like you would not have had a job without a union as you would be fired your first day.....

No church makes it mandatory you give them money but unions do..........And even a child understands the difference......

Unions demand what the wages and benefits are and that it was this law is stopping.....
A strike is not negations just ask the hostess workers..........ROTFLMAO

Yes a moron like you that knows nothing about businesses would not understand how a business can operate without a union.....

But millions of them do everyday..........

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What do you expect from a moron that claims raising the cost of something does not raise the cost of it..........LOL

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#13 Dec 12, 2012
GRANDPA NICOLAI wrote:
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Yea?
Well, you just go ahead and join a church and make no offerings ever and then we will talk about it...
So you resented the union giving millions to the John Kerry campaign and buying politicians but you were OK with the company buying politicians, lobbyists and giving millions to Bush..???
I have a good gardner who goes above and beyond, I would have no qualms in giving him a significant raise, after all, unlike me, he works for a living and has got a family to support....
And again you prove how stupid you are.........

No church requires donations.......But unions do.......

Yes we know you have never worked a day in your life..........Does the gardener show up at the prison you are in???

“Government IS the problem.”

Since: Jan 08

Chico, CA

#14 Dec 12, 2012
GRANDPA NICOLAI wrote:
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Yea?
Well, you just go ahead and join a church and make no offerings ever and then we will talk about it..
Is the church going to take money from your pay cheque or your bank account without your approval? No. Offerings are voluntary. Union dues are not.
GRANDPA NICOLAI wrote:
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So you resented the union giving millions to the John Kerry campaign and buying politicians but you were OK with the company buying politicians, lobbyists and giving millions to Bush..???..
So the corporations gave money to Bush only? I believe that Obama received more money from corporations than any other politician in history. The corporations are free to give "their" money to the candidate they choose, lobbying is a different story. The unions giving my money that they are supposed to be using for "my" benefit are using that money for their own benefit. Big Unions are Big Business. It is similar to government wasting the money they take from us by force. I am sure that you would find it a problem if your union gave money to Ron Paul.
GRANDPA NICOLAI wrote:
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I have a good gardner who goes above and beyond, I would have no qualms in giving him a significant raise, after all, unlike me, he works for a living and has got a family to support..
You are still dodging the question. You admit that your gardener does more work for you than he has to for what you are paying him. Therefore you are not paying him for what he is worth, you are a greedy capitalist taking advantage of your worker. Shame, shame.
GRANDPA NICOLAI

Chico, CA

#15 Dec 12, 2012
Sam Lowree wrote:
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Is the church going to take money from your pay cheque or your bank account without your approval? No. Offerings are voluntary. Union dues are not.
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Is the church going to negotiate a pay raise or a better benefits package for you...?

Of course union dues are not voluntary, the unions know their ranks are full of conservative leeches who avail themselves of all the benefits unions negotiate for them and yet they do not want to voluntarily pay for them.
GRANDPA NICOLAI

Chico, CA

#16 Dec 12, 2012
Sam Lowree wrote:
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You are still dodging the question. You admit that your gardener does more work for you than he has to for what you are paying him. Therefore you are not paying him for what he is worth, you are a greedy capitalist taking advantage of your worker. Shame, shame.
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You conveniently forgot that earlier I said that at the end of each year I give him a bonus equivalent to several months pay.....
GRANDPA NICOLAI

Chico, CA

#17 Dec 12, 2012
Sam Lowree wrote:
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So the corporations gave money to Bush only? I believe that Obama received more money from corporations than any other politician in history. The corporations are free to give "their" money to the candidate they choose, lobbying is a different story. The unions giving my money that they are supposed to be using for "my" benefit are using that money for their own benefit. Big Unions are Big Business. It is similar to government wasting the money they take from us by force. I am sure that you would find it a problem if your union gave money to Ron Paul.
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I don't know how much money corporations gave to Bush or OBAMA...

The corporations give the most money to the candidate they feel will advance their cause, same with the unions....

But if you resent the unions giving your dues to a candidate there are also those who resent corporations giving money to politicians instead of using that money for dividends...
sociopathic Liberals

Orland, CA

#18 Dec 12, 2012
GRANDPA NICOLAI wrote:
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Is the church going to negotiate a pay raise or a better benefits package for you...?
Of course union dues are not voluntary, the unions know their ranks are full of conservative leeches who avail themselves of all the benefits unions negotiate for them and yet they do not want to voluntarily pay for them.
You stupidass!

Stupid Ass:
This is a person who is a jackass. It does not know what they are doing even when someone tells them. They pretend they are cool but don't realize the group which it is popular in, only exists in its mind.

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#19 Dec 12, 2012
GRANDPA NICOLAI wrote:
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Is the church going to negotiate a pay raise or a better benefits package for you...?
Of course union dues are not voluntary, the unions know their ranks are full of conservative leeches who avail themselves of all the benefits unions negotiate for them and yet they do not want to voluntarily pay for them.
People dont want the union to be any part of their job but they did not have a choice......

People that were not even in the unions were forced to pay money also....

There is nothing voluntary about a union and the only people that like unions are the ones that would not get a raise without a union.....

When Ford first went union the wages dropped.......
Local

Hidden Valley Lake, CA

#20 Dec 12, 2012
The union violence going on in Michigan after the passing of the "right to work law" brings to mind two obvious observations.

The "liberal left" is NOT anti violence anymore, and the conservative right should continue to fight for the 2nd amendment.

Union Violence and Mob Mayhem in Michigan
Conservative victory over an unprecedented Big Labor power-grab.
http://patriotpost.us/opinion/15861

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