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Resident

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#1 Jul 18, 2008
Trustee Davies is against the new Chicago Ridge Firehouse, according to the Reporter Newspaper. This new Firehouse will help the Fire Department keep the Village safe, and allow the Department to maintain our equipment and do their jobs. Mike Davies is against our public safety and against out firefighters. He keeps voting against our public safety. This is disgraceful. We need a better firehouse. He is playing politics with our safety.

Printed From The Reporter 2008-07-17


Ridge approves bond sale to pay for new firehouse
Chicago Ridge trustees voted 5- 1 Tuesday to approve a $6 million bond sale that will fund the construction of a new fire station. The new firehouse will replace Station No. 2, 10258 Southwest Highway. Village Attorney George Witous said bids will go out Aug. 7 and that the bond will be sold Aug. 14.
Trustee Mike Davies cast the lone dissenting vote.
The board has discussed replacing the station for the last several years. The station will be built on the old Hawkinson Ford property located near Virginia and Anderson avenues.
Built in 1967, Station No. 2 is beyond repair. It was built with lumber and other materials salvaged from fires when the department was run by volunteers. Village architect John Frega told the board last July a new fire station must be built to avoid a “catastrophe.” Trusses in the building are more than 70 years old and are deteriorating, he has said.
The Village Board also voted 5-1 to approve a contract with Waner Enterprises to oversee construction of the station. Davies cast the lone dissenting vote for that as well.
Chicago Ridge will pay Waner $238,000 for managing the construction. Additional costs up to $160,275 can be reimbursed to the village, according to the contract.
Waner will advertise for bids and will recommend bids with the architect to the Village Board, Witous said. The board will then have to approve the bids.
WHY

Greenwood, IN

#2 Jul 18, 2008
You seem to be jumping to quite a few conclusions, when all you know is that he voted against the bond sale. No where in the article did it explain why, so maybe you should find out before you decide that it must be because he is against our public safety and against firefighters.
Looking on

West Lafayette, IN

#3 Jul 19, 2008
WHY wrote:
You seem to be jumping to quite a few conclusions, when all you know is that he voted against the bond sale. No where in the article did it explain why, so maybe you should find out before you decide that it must be because he is against our public safety and against firefighters.
At different meetings in the past Davies tried to stop this firehouse project by bringing up other locations for the firehouse after the Village already spent a fortune on the Hawkinson lot to build the firehouse, he voted no on the firehouse architect, and also voted no on traffic control speed bumps that were requested by residents and other trustees. At this last meeting he also voted against the construction manager for the firehouse project, not just the bonds. The architect called the current firehouse a possible catastrophe for the fire department. Like the other comment said, these are public safety issues and he voted no. The record is pretty clear that Davies is out to stop the new firehouse that the village needs. As a Trustee Davies had his chance to say why he opposes this project in the public meeting for the record. The Mayor and the Clerk communicate in Public meetings and they do their business in Public. So do the other Trustees. Not everybody has the chance to stop up at the bar to talk to Davies about all his no votes and people don't have to. He didn't get his way so took his ball and went home, just like he alway did.
Looking on

West Lafayette, IN

#4 Jul 19, 2008
WHY wrote:
You seem to be jumping to quite a few conclusions, when all you know is that he voted against the bond sale. No where in the article did it explain why, so maybe you should find out before you decide that it must be because he is against our public safety and against firefighters.
On second thought, if Trustee Davies voted no on the sale of bonds for the firehouse did he do so because of a bad interest rate or a bad deal on other important terms and not because of a disregard for public safety as you imply? Does he have a better financing arrangement in mind that would save the village some real money on the project or did he vote no and pout just to be a snot because he is not getting his way? I don't think he can be defended. Saying no and pouting instead of explaining his position to make things better makes him look like a whiner.
speed bump

Oak Lawn, IL

#5 Jul 19, 2008
Davies voted against speed bumps.....WHY? Is it because the police don't pull any speeding cars over on the side steets. I have seen the cars doing 40-50 down 110th and 109th and even worse the cars by oak park baseball fields. I thought safety is always a concern. If I was speeding I would accept the ticket. So any ideas?
CROOK

Hanover Park, IL

#6 Jul 19, 2008
WHY wrote:
You seem to be jumping to quite a few conclusions, when all you know is that he voted against the bond sale. No where in the article did it explain why, so maybe you should find out before you decide that it must be because he is against our public safety and against firefighters.
It's because a buddy of his was suppose to get the business and then a huge kickback "Bribe" was suppose to go to Republican Mike Davies.
Mohamed

Chicago, IL

#7 Jul 20, 2008
Gene needs to pocket more cash before he retires. Like that police station that went way over budget. Why do we need a new fire dept. Baloney.
Nose

West Lafayette, IN

#8 Jul 20, 2008
Mohamed wrote:
Gene needs to pocket more cash before he retires. Like that police station that went way over budget. Why do we need a new fire dept. Baloney.
We need a fire department and the Mayor would never take cash. We should find out why the village Baord is divided about the project. If the financing is a bad deal or if the plan is a bad plan? I can't believe that the village board is heading off on a project that we don't need or that we are only picking financing plan that kicks back. So what is it? And no I am not a candidate. I am a worried citizen who has a flipped over mortgage and a rising tax bill. If one of the village lawyers says he doesn't like the firehouse plan for whatever reason he has should we just write it off to ego problems and pray that the other trustees and the Mayor have it right?
Mohamed

Chicago, IL

#9 Jul 21, 2008
Remember the 6 million dollar Police dept. That became a 20 million dollar police dept. I would lose my job if I were that far off on a budget quote. Wake up people what is the real agenda here. Our Safety or a new project for grafting.
Mr nobody

United States

#10 Jul 21, 2008
"Remember the 6 million dollar Police dept. That became a 20 million dollar police dept. I would lose my job if I were that far off on a budget quote. Wake up people what is the real agenda here. Our Safety or a new project for grafting."

i agree. in the private sector, heads would roll.
in our governement its common and even expected.
funny(not) how easy it is to spend OTHER PEOPLES money. ESPECIALLY when they get to spend it on themselves. i have to buy myself hot dogs, partly because of tax's. THEY get to eat steak, that I paid for !!!

if a new building is warrented, then so be it. BUT, figure out what is needed, how much it will cost. get contracts, and HOLD them to it = NOT .01 extra !!!!!!!!!!
confused

West Lafayette, IN

#11 Jul 24, 2008
Mr nobody wrote:
"Remember the 6 million dollar Police dept. That became a 20 million dollar police dept. I would lose my job if I were that far off on a budget quote. Wake up people what is the real agenda here. Our Safety or a new project for grafting."
i agree. in the private sector, heads would roll.
in our governement its common and even expected.
funny(not) how easy it is to spend OTHER PEOPLES money. ESPECIALLY when they get to spend it on themselves. i have to buy myself hot dogs, partly because of tax's. THEY get to eat steak, that I paid for !!!
if a new building is warrented, then so be it. BUT, figure out what is needed, how much it will cost. get contracts, and HOLD them to it = NOT .01 extra !!!!!!!!!!
You might be on to something but I am not sure. Davies is saying NO to to all things firehouse because he must agree with you. And that would be after he listened to all of the behind closed doors stuff that we can't. So if it is a not a good deal why doesn't everybody agree with him? He is the leader isn't he? I am confused about why but I think he is wrong and but he came to a different conclusion than everybody else with the same facts then he isn't much of a leader since nobody followed him. Isn't that what leaders do?
Money

Hanover Park, IL

#12 Jul 25, 2008
Mike Davies voted against the bond because he was upset that one of his Republican buddies was not given a slice of the deal. The Republican pal was suppose to kick back bucks to Davies by giving Davies Law Practice some business. Vote for Law Business.... Life is good when your Republican Mike Davies. Sorry this one didn't workout for you Davies. Run for Mayor, get elected and you'll make a fortune.
Get serious two

Oak Lawn, IL

#13 Jul 26, 2008
Just talked with fire person. One trustee pushing new house for years. Village bought hawk property for new house. Old house is falling down. No options on this. House is in process of being built. Quickly. Issue is they need more people at station. Short staffed. Being worked on. Everyone is weighing in on this. Trustee told me "if anyone wants to know anything about the business of the village tell them to call the hall or come to a meeting." It made sense to me.
Get serious Three

West Lafayette, IN

#14 Jul 26, 2008
Get serious two wrote:
Just talked with fire person. One trustee pushing new house for years. Village bought hawk property for new house. Old house is falling down. No options on this. House is in process of being built. Quickly. Issue is they need more people at station. Short staffed. Being worked on. Everyone is weighing in on this. Trustee told me "if anyone wants to know anything about the business of the village tell them to call the hall or come to a meeting." It made sense to me.
I seem to remember the trustees election of 2003 when one of the Active Party candidates and I do think it was Don Pratl who campaigned on the idea that Firehouse 2 had to be replaced, because the Village just bought a firetruck that couldn't fit inside and that it made no sense to continue to remodel that building.The Mayor and the older trustees didn't argue with him but didn't do anything to push that idea along. After the 2005 election when Bruce Quintos was appointed the fire committee the Mayor liked the idea more and by then the Hawkinson property was available so Bruce liked the idea too. After the last election Brad Grove and Mike Davies convinced Quintos that Firehouse 1 was a better spot for the new Firehouse and that the Village should buy up homes on Lombard and Oak and spend another couple of million to acquire all those homes and displace those families. The Mayor was afraid that the public fighting would be bad for him after he just tossed Pratl out and because he still wanted to act like he was in charge and not the newcomers. Finally the other trustees banded with the mayor and that majority proceeded with the plan to build on the Hawkinson property. That is why Mike Davies is not voting in favor of the new firehouse items. He made a move and lost. And I do not have to go to a meeting I have been watching this stupid posturing for a long time from the inside.
Greed

Hanover Park, IL

#15 Jul 27, 2008
Republican Mike Davies has been increasing his Law Business ever since He was elected Trustee. He tried to revoke the contract the Village has with it's healthcare provider and replace it with a company he has a "relation" with. He wants to control who gets what in the Village so that he can cash in. Hey business is business and if us simple lttle Democrats in the Ridge can make him rich then so be it. By the Way I love Mike's new cars and beautful new house.
Get out

West Lafayette, IN

#16 Jul 27, 2008
Get serious two wrote:
Just talked with fire person. One trustee pushing new house for years. Village bought hawk property for new house. Old house is falling down. No options on this. House is in process of being built. Quickly. Issue is they need more people at station. Short staffed. Being worked on. Everyone is weighing in on this. Trustee told me "if anyone wants to know anything about the business of the village tell them to call the hall or come to a meeting." It made sense to me.
Right we should stop by the meeting or the Hall and get a little sense beat into us like the Trustee likes to do all his wives.
Enough Already

United States

#17 Jul 29, 2008
Get serious Three wrote:
<quoted text>I seem to remember the trustees election of 2003 when one of the Active Party candidates and I do think it was Don Pratl who campaigned on the idea that Firehouse 2 had to be replaced, because the Village just bought a firetruck that couldn't fit inside and that it made no sense to continue to remodel that building.The Mayor and the older trustees didn't argue with him but didn't do anything to push that idea along. After the 2005 election when Bruce Quintos was appointed the fire committee the Mayor liked the idea more and by then the Hawkinson property was available so Bruce liked the idea too. After the last election Brad Grove and Mike Davies convinced Quintos that Firehouse 1 was a better spot for the new Firehouse and that the Village should buy up homes on Lombard and Oak and spend another couple of million to acquire all those homes and displace those families. The Mayor was afraid that the public fighting would be bad for him after he just tossed Pratl out and because he still wanted to act like he was in charge and not the newcomers. Finally the other trustees banded with the mayor and that majority proceeded with the plan to build on the Hawkinson property. That is why Mike Davies is not voting in favor of the new firehouse items. He made a move and lost. And I do not have to go to a meeting I have been watching this stupid posturing for a long time from the inside.
Why does somebody think we always need a history lesson? One guy doesn't like the firehouse. Davies might be the only guy in town who thinks so. so what?
So What

West Lafayette, IN

#18 Jul 29, 2008
Enough Already wrote:
<quoted text>Why does somebody think we always need a history lesson? One guy doesn't like the firehouse. Davies might be the only guy in town who thinks so. so what?
I'll give you so what. So either the plan is a bad deal for the Village and the rest of the Village Board is wrong and Davies is right or the plan is right for the Village and Davies is wrong and the rest Village Board is right. Or maybe Davies' act of voting "no" is just a soap opera drama.
Ridge Resident

West Lafayette, IN

#19 Aug 2, 2008
If you look at the Village Board Meeting Adenda for August 5th there are no items about the Firehouse project to vote on. Things are moving right along on that project.
Adding to it

Oak Lawn, IL

#20 Aug 3, 2008
So What sounds a little frustrated. WHy focus on Davies? Is this political? That's how I'm seeing it. We as residents who are asking valid questions. Why can't we deal with the issue at hand and not bring politics into it. I'm getting sick and tire of all this.
One side won and the other side lost. I am starting to see you for the loosers you are.

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