Restaurants' opposition might stop gun bill in House | The Columbus Dispatch

There are 20 comments on the Columbus Dispatch story from Apr 14, 2011, titled Restaurants' opposition might stop gun bill in House | The Columbus Dispatch. In it, Columbus Dispatch reports that:

Do restaurant owners have more clout than law-enforcement officers with Ohio lawmakers? The Ohio Senate easily passed legislation yesterday to allow people with concealed-carry permits to take their guns into bars, restaurants, arenas, museums and other areas where alcohol is served - as long as they don't drink.

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Amazed By The Lunacy

United States

#1 Apr 14, 2011
To the restaurant owners. As soon as I find out which ones oppose this bill, you will not see me in your establishments.
The real question is

Powell, OH

#2 Apr 14, 2011
Does the Restaurant association put up more campaign yard signs, knock on more doors, drop more literature, make more phone calls etc etc during 2012 than gun owners? And the answer to that question is a clear "no."

So unless the Ohio GOP wants to guarantee an alienated, angry base in the swing state of Ohio during the crucial 2012 election, this bill will be brought to a vote, soon, and it will pass.
aidedegramps

Dublin, OH

#3 Apr 14, 2011
I too, will not patronize those restaurants. I have changed my shopping practices for the same reason. And that includes financial planners, banks, antique malls and any other commercial enterprise
Wild West

Columbus, OH

#4 Apr 14, 2011
Why don't we go back to cowboy days when you just wear yours guns on your hips and shot anyone that pisses you off.
Columbus

Columbus, OH

#5 Apr 14, 2011
If one is a true conservative, a private property owner should have the discretion to allow weapons on his/her property. Look around you, most businesses post signs banning weapons because they don't want to get sued in the event a patron pulls a gun and injures or kills someone. And how is a bartender know if someone is packing heat and wants a beer? They don't want to be a law enforcement officer--they want run a business. It's a CYA for them and I'd do the same thing if I ran a business.
Eight Ball

United States

#6 Apr 14, 2011
Finally, I can protect my drink while I am at the pool table. Bet you don't steal my quarters either!
Mina

Hopkinsville, KY

#7 Apr 14, 2011
Amazed By The Lunacy wrote:
To the restaurant owners. As soon as I find out which ones oppose this bill, you will not see me in your establishments.
Lunacy: I'm sure these restaurant owners will rest easier at night knowing your gun-toting self is NOT in their places of business.
Bodie

Chillicothe, OH

#8 Apr 14, 2011
GOP in Ohio has already proven how big a voter base they pissssss off doesn't matter. Look at numbers opposed to SB 5 so CCW Permit Holders and the National NRA mean nothing to Ohio Gop office holders.
They are klling the party day by day in the Buckeye State. We now have the Governor with the lowest approval rating of all 50 States and Coporate America looks at that like they do a credit or bind rating so they know that regardless of the promises made by any GOP office holder the end is only 3 yrs away so that means no job growth for Ohio as long as GOP is in power.
Mina

Hopkinsville, KY

#9 Apr 14, 2011
aidedegramps wrote:
I too, will not patronize those restaurants. I have changed my shopping practices for the same reason. And that includes financial planners, banks, antique malls and any other commercial enterprise
So does this mean you will not do business with a bank that does not allow you to enter with a gun? What are you, a bank robber?
packin heat

Columbus, OH

#10 Apr 14, 2011
if these gun toters wanna go play " Wild Bill Hiccup" let em go out in the country and shoot groundhogs. I dont want to be sitting having dinner while they are getting plowed and have them pull a gun to settle an arguement over a freaking ball game or something.

KEEP THE GUN OUT OF BARS AND EATING ESTABLISHMENTS
Mina

Hopkinsville, KY

#11 Apr 14, 2011
Wild West wrote:
Why don't we go back to cowboy days when you just wear yours guns on your hips and shot anyone that pisses you off.
That's exactly what will happen if drunks in bard with guns get PO'd at each other. Bang. Bang. Bang.
Paul Not Paublo

Bowling Green, OH

#12 Apr 14, 2011
Sen. Charleta Tavares stated too many deaths where there are guns and alcohol. I suspect you must be talking about people breaking the law carring weapons, and killing people not breaking the law getting killed. If you want to listen to law enforcement, why don't you ask why so many people were shot last week end and this law was not in effect? Could it be the law breakers had nothing to fear from those that obey the law? I would like to go back into Pizza Hut, but I haven't in years because of the law. Some restaurants will gain, while others will lose, just like banks. The real gripe is when they are against something because it MIGHT. You might get killed crossing a street, so are you going to make a law against it?
Barney19

Columbus, OH

#13 Apr 14, 2011
Columbus wrote:
If one is a true conservative, a private property owner should have the discretion to allow weapons on his/her property. Look around you, most businesses post signs banning weapons because they don't want to get sued in the event a patron pulls a gun and injures or kills someone. And how is a bartender know if someone is packing heat and wants a beer? They don't want to be a law enforcement officer--they want run a business. It's a CYA for them and I'd do the same thing if I ran a business.
You make an excellent point! Never the less, we do not live in a perfect world. If we did, restaurant and other business owners would be permitted to determine whether their employees and customers were allowed to smoke in their establishments. Such is not the case. Instead we have the tyranny of the majority rather than enforcement of "property rights".
Conservatives Lie

Powell, OH

#14 Apr 14, 2011
Amazed By The Lunacy wrote:
To the restaurant owners. As soon as I find out which ones oppose this bill, you will not see me in your establishments.
The smokers said the same thing...and life goes on...
ODB

Columbus, OH

#15 Apr 14, 2011
Wild West wrote:
Why don't we go back to cowboy days when you just wear yours guns on your hips and shot anyone that pisses you off.
Yeah that actually happened. What color is the sky in your world?
aidedegramps

Dublin, OH

#16 Apr 14, 2011
Mina wrote:
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So does this mean you will not do business with a bank that does not allow you to enter with a gun? What are you, a bank robber?
No Mina, I am not a bank robber. I have a CCP, I have had background checks, spent time studying the laws of the land, and been fingerprinted. I carry to protect myself and my family. I just will not do business with a commercial establishment that eliminates that right. But thank you for asking..........
Paul Not Paublo

Bowling Green, OH

#17 Apr 14, 2011
Mina wrote:
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So does this mean you will not do business with a bank that does not allow you to enter with a gun? What are you, a bank robber?
I suspect you just put your money in the bank in the form of a check, or have direct deposit. If you were dealing with any substantial money other than your $20.00 ATM you would understand.
I am a true conservative

Powell, OH

#18 Apr 14, 2011
and this bill allows the private property owners to still control their property by opting out, simply by posting a sign. And they cannot be sued for the actions of licensees in their business because their is statutory immunity.

So true conservatives have no reason to be against this bill.
Dave

Lewis Center, OH

#19 Apr 14, 2011
Seems to me the most dangerous ingredient in this mix is alcohol.
Hayduke

Washington, DC

#20 Apr 14, 2011
Most shootings at business places,especially bars,seem to occur outside in front or on the parking lot
How do you carry a gun from the car to the entrance, but not inside????
Should business that don't allow guns be required to provide gun check ins????

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