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There are 130 comments on the Columbus Dispatch story from May 26, 2010, titled Bill expanding Ohio's concealed-carry law advances in Senate | The .... In it, Columbus Dispatch reports that:

Cleveland police detective Stephen Loomis didn't mince words in blasting a legislative proposal that would allow holders of concealed-carry permits to take guns into bars, sporting events and restaurants that sell alcohol.

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Jim

Hilliard, OH

#1 May 26, 2010
Grendell is a one man walking disaster for this state.
anonymous

Dublin, OH

#2 May 26, 2010
This is an issue that proves why we need more than two political parties. I am an independent who usually votes Democrat, but I believe in 2nd Amendment rights. Why can't I find a candidate to vote for who supports Concealed Carry laws, but won't also try to tell me that gays are a threat to the American family, or that healthcare for every American is equivalent to Naziism???
Raymond Sean Walters

Wheeling, WV

#4 May 26, 2010
Glad that citizens rights are being considered, not sorry about law enforcement always having a complaint about anyone but them carrying weapons.
libcrusher101

Westerville, OH

#5 May 26, 2010
Grendell is an idiot if he thinks that anyone who goes through fingerprinting, background checks, and a training class will just walk in and start shooting up a bar. I guess he feels cops are the only ones allowed to mix alcohol and guns huh??
Dick in Gahanna

Columbus, OH

#6 May 26, 2010
Do you eally think criminals thta go to bars give a crap about the law. As a CCW permit holder I want to be able to carry in the places I eat also, not have to leave it in my car. Everyone involved in the bill knows there is a no drinking rule if carrying. If I can carry in Wendy's or McDonalds why shouldn't I be able to carry in Max and Ermas?
E David Quammen

Houston, TX

#8 May 26, 2010
anonymous wrote:
This is an issue that proves why we need more than two political parties. I am an independent who usually votes Democrat, but I believe in 2nd Amendment rights. Why can't I find a candidate to vote for who supports Concealed Carry laws, but won't also try to tell me that gays are a threat to the American family, or that healthcare for every American is equivalent to Naziism???
Where is healthcare in the Bill of Rights?

Sincerely,

Earl
what

Zanesville, OH

#7 May 26, 2010
you can already bring a gun into any of these places, and many do. so, cops, what will change?
Huh

Columbus, OH

#9 May 26, 2010
You are all missing the point. What possible reason is there for a person to be bringing a gun with them into bar or out to dinner? "Hey, I said medium rare, b**ch, now go fix my order before i put a cap in your a**?"
Tired

Columbus, OH

#10 May 26, 2010
Are they not already doing this without a CCP???
Bob

Winder, GA

#11 May 26, 2010
Huh wrote:
You are all missing the point. What possible reason is there for a person to be bringing a gun with them into bar or out to dinner? "Hey, I said medium rare, b**ch, now go fix my order before i put a cap in your ****?"
Do you not remember a short time ago a nutjob went into a church to shoot it up and a pistol packin mama blew the nutjob away ? Maybe she should have sat back and watched innocents get killed huh ?
CommonSense

Fremont, OH

#12 May 26, 2010
Huh wrote:
You are all missing the point. What possible reason is there for a person to be bringing a gun with them into bar or out to dinner? "Hey, I said medium rare, b**ch, now go fix my order before i put a cap in your ****?"
42 states currently allow CCW permits holders to carry in restaurants and bars that serve alcohol. I guess Ohioans aren't as evolved as the other states huh?

The ones you need to worry about carrying are the ones without the permit.

Idiots!
Ret Deputy

Columbus, OH

#13 May 26, 2010
We got guns in "Clubs" in Columbus and we have guns in bars and none are carried by concealed carry permit holders so a few more ain't gonna make no difference ......... NOT
Jay

La Plata, MD

#14 May 26, 2010
CommonSense wrote:
<quoted text>
42 states currently allow CCW permits holders to carry in restaurants and bars that serve alcohol. I guess Ohioans aren't as evolved as the other states huh?
The ones you need to worry about carrying are the ones without the permit.
Idiots!
Can you open carry w/o a permit there? Not that keen on current Ohio gun laws even though I know it is already a shall-issue state.
JiB

Mansfield, OH

#15 May 26, 2010
The bar argument is a bit overblown. The purpose of this bill is to allow CCW permit holders the legal right to carry into places that serve alcohol. Currently, you can't legally carry into a rough and rowdy place like, say, Red Lobster because they have a tiny little bar they use to serve drinks.

What about sports bars? Is BWW a bar or restaurant? Where do you determine what is a bar or restaurant?
Jay

La Plata, MD

#16 May 26, 2010
The ones who will shoot up a bar are the criminals who don't care and don't use a permit anyway. I really do not see anything wrong with a licensed citizen carrying a concealed weapon as long as he/she is not drinking or using the gun irresponsibly.
craig smith

Cincinnati, OH

#17 May 26, 2010
i carry an i may save a life ...and maybe some cop......best thing that can happen..
Jay

La Plata, MD

#18 May 26, 2010
My state of VA is weird. You can't drink if you conceal carry but you can drink if you open carry. I just think the rule for open carry should be the same as the one for concealed carry. The concealed carry reform law in alcohol establishments in VA will be in effect this coming July. It's about time a patron can go legally armed when dining out.
ChickwithaGun

Findlay, OH

#19 May 26, 2010
What? Who says that people who go into bars and clubs drink boooooooze? I happen to be the one who is the desginated driver since I do not enjoy booze, but enjoy the company of my pals! I also have my Ohio CCWL. It took me back ground checks, several hours of written testing and MANY hours on the range to get it too. I am thinking MANY people would like me to be in the bar with my Kahr if some looooooon came in shooting at innocents.
Huh

Columbus, OH

#20 May 26, 2010
OK, you're right. In case of that one in a million chance that a law abiding armed citizen has he opportunity to be a hero and put down a random nut job during Sunday's sermon, let's pass further legislation that makes it even easier for said nut job to bring a gun with him wherever he pleases.
Jay

La Plata, MD

#21 May 26, 2010
The only way to deal with a nutjob is either an armed citizen or a cop. If you think passing laws against carrying guns are a deterrent, then why is there shooting in bars around the country despite the laws prohibiting carry? It seemed the disarmament laws do not affect the criminal and puts the law abiding at great risk. And, what would you do if an armed criminal start shooting at a bar or restaurant full of people? Be a sheep and comply? Not me. I'd rather have a fighting chance.

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