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Senate passes bill that sends fewer to prison | The Columbus Dispatch

There are 36 comments on the Columbus Dispatch story from Jun 22, 2011, titled Senate passes bill that sends fewer to prison | The Columbus Dispatch. In it, Columbus Dispatch reports that:

What supporters called a "smart on crime" bill, a sweeping overhaul of Ohio's criminal-sentencing laws, passed the Senate today with strong bipartisan support.

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workingdadof7

Lancaster, OH

#21 Jun 23, 2011
And it's only the beginning. No accountability for a persons actions. And people wonder why society is the way it is.
disgusted

Nashport, OH

#22 Jun 23, 2011
Reducing sentences for non-support dead beats is the most ludicrous idea I have ever heard. My grandchildren's father has back support of more than $55000.00 and has spent only 6 months in jail in the last 14 years. All his earnings go for strippers, prostitutes, alcohol, gambling and vacations. The best thing that could be done at this point is to eleminate mandatory child support altogether. It's not enforced. Then we can close the Child Support Enforcement department which is a joke. Then cut the Childrens Service department in half and only cover physical abuse cases. This will save government millions every year and the will never be missed!
bullpucky

Athens, OH

#23 Jun 23, 2011
Now wait a minute. I thought the R's were all about "do the crime - do the time?" So did they finally realize that just "locking people up" is in no way rehabilitation?
Redistributor

Columbus, OH

#24 Jun 23, 2011
'allow the criminal-justice system to differentiate between the serious criminal offender and those who are not guilty of violent crimes or sex crimes'

That is the key. We are suppose to be the freest Country in the world, yet we have the highest incarceration rate per population in the world. That doesn't add up. I think this war on drugs has not been such an efficient use of our tax dollars. We are spending way to much protecting people from themselves.

Since: May 11

Columbus, OH

#25 Jun 23, 2011
They should just let out every inmate that's in prison on pot-related charges. That'll free up some room for the rapists!
Grand Pubah

United States

#26 Jun 23, 2011
Collins44 wrote:
We can not maintain the current "prison" system based on demographics.
Elsewhere in this newspaper today there is an article entitled "Census shows whites lose US majority among babies." The minorities are now the majority among babies and will outnumber Whites in mid-century. Also of note in that article is the "family" situation for Blacks where single females outnumber married couples (this is the first time this has happened for any ethnic group in U.S. History). These type of family consume but do not produce. No country can survivie a minority that is becoming the majority with massive numbers either in prison or on welfare, consuming benefits (e.g, food stamps, WIC, free lunches, Section 8) but paying zero taxes. Additionally as the minorities become the majority they will eventually vote to confiscate more and more wealth from the tax paying minority which will end up being a disaster of epic proportions.
Those who refuse to learn the lessons of history are doomed to repeat them.
I agree 100% with your message.
Possibly it's time for those who recieve welfare,food stamps,free lunches etc. should be working on the road crews or whatever needs to be done for the city or county the preside in .
I'm not talking about the elderly or children. I'm talking about the sit on their butt with their hands out.
Their is something they can do or recieve no money.
Grove City Grump

Columbus, OH

#27 Jun 23, 2011
Wake up politicos wrote:
Take the guy who cut thru the lady's ground floor window screen and only stopped raping her when her daughter entered the livingroom..
And then what happened?
vector

Columbus, OH

#28 Jun 24, 2011
I can remember as a young kid all the republican ads on tv spouting that they were the ones tough on crime. What has happened? Were you wrong all those years?
Penal Hair System

Denver, CO

#29 Jun 27, 2011
Jeff wrote:
<quoted text>Yeah, like we don't pay to feed, house, and provide healthcare to prisoners. Just what we need: half the population in prison, and the other half working in prison-related jobs....... Get a clue!
Read Collins44's post pal. We can keep these idiots in prison preventing them from having 5 kids a piece with 4 different women. Its as politically correct version of population control as you can find.
Desire To Inspire

Columbus, OH

#30 Jun 29, 2011
vector wrote:
I can remember as a young kid all the republican ads on tv spouting that they were the ones tough on crime. What has happened? Were you wrong all those years?
As a matter of fact, its obviously that the Zero Tolerance crap hasn't worked. It just gave them more excuses to lock up more people for victimless crimes, thereby enlarging the state payroll exponentially.

The more people you put in jail, the more families are out a parent. When those kids then get dumped on the system or grandparents, you further stress the social fabric, creating yet more gov jobs, but also increasing the likelyhood that the kids will eventually violate.

What we really need are legislators willing to recind laws rather than creating yet more layers of legislation that corral our cities, states and nation into very narrow responses for our social ills. Is there such a person we can elect, when all they really want is their name on a bill that 'saves us from ourselves?' To create their legacy?
katherine

United States

#31 Jun 30, 2011
My son went to prison for 4 years because he was growing marijuanna. He is still in prison till December, 2012. he has filed for judicial release 5 times since his being incarcerated and the Judge (Eyster) denies it every time! He has many certificates of acheivement from various programs he attended at the prison and has recently been accepted into a techanial college program as well. He has had no strikes against him while incarcerated and still yet the Judge puts his foot down...NO! I dont understand why hard criminals can be set free and such but for a person to grow marijuanna has to be caged up! No, he was not selling or any of the above, simply put, growing marijuanna! I have seen others get parole for harder offenses including selling etc..,. What gives??
Jenny Tell Ya

Pickerington, OH

#32 Jul 1, 2011
Katherine,
Not much sympathy here. The old saying applies here, "You do the crime, you do the time."

Let's hope that in 2012 your son has been "rehabilitated" and has a better understanding of what the consequences of breaking the law are.....

I know that growing marijuana is illegal, and prison is a consequence of doing it. That's why I don't do it!
Anon

Columbus, OH

#33 Jul 2, 2011
Jenny Tell Ya wrote:
Katherine,
Not much sympathy here. The old saying applies here, "You do the crime, you do the time."
Let's hope that in 2012 your son has been "rehabilitated" and has a better understanding of what the consequences of breaking the law are.....
I know that growing marijuana is illegal, and prison is a consequence of doing it. That's why I don't do it!
Is there anything in your mind as some laws are just wrong? Or does every legislative fart mean you obey without question?
Redistributor

Columbus, OH

#34 Jul 4, 2011
Jenny Tell Ya wrote:
Katherine,
Not much sympathy here. The old saying applies here, "You do the crime, you do the time."
Let's hope that in 2012 your son has been "rehabilitated" and has a better understanding of what the consequences of breaking the law are.....
I know that growing marijuana is illegal, and prison is a consequence of doing it. That's why I don't do it!
George Washington grew hemp. Should they have jailed him for 4 years?
senior citizen

United States

#35 Jul 4, 2011
i am sorry to hear about your son but i read bill 86 and it appears your son is elgible to get out.
Jenny Tell Ya

Denver, CO

#36 Jul 4, 2011
Anon wrote:
<quoted text>
Is there anything in your mind as some laws are just wrong? Or does every legislative fart mean you obey without question?
Just because some laws are "wrong" (I don't know of any,) does not mean that you should break them.
If I believed that armed robbery was wrong, does that mean I should be allowed to do it?

DUH!

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