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Senate passes bill that sends fewer to prison | The Columbus Dispatch

There are 36 comments on the Columbus Dispatch story from Jun 22, 2011, titled Senate passes bill that sends fewer to prison | The Columbus Dispatch. In it, Columbus Dispatch reports that:

What supporters called a "smart on crime" bill, a sweeping overhaul of Ohio's criminal-sentencing laws, passed the Senate today with strong bipartisan support.

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Wake up politicos

Mount Vernon, OH

#1 Jun 22, 2011
Making our streets safer should be your first priority. Take the guy who cut thru the lady's ground floor window screen and only stopped raping her when her daughter entered the livingroom. Surely this excuse for a human being long ago gave cause for concern he might do someone violence. Some people are never, ever going to be able to live among decent people - the signs are always there and you ignore them at our peril. Build more prisons. Because your overrated pompous boast to "cure" criminals almost never works.
CSD

United States

#2 Jun 22, 2011
This will mean more Democratic voters come November.
jesse coy

United States

#3 Jun 22, 2011
legalize marijuana and bam 50 percent of your prison population will dissApeir and a billion dollar a year industry will be made
Penal Hair System

Pickerington, OH

#4 Jun 22, 2011
If you build more prisons, it will be expensive at first, but in the long run it will save a LOT more money. Crime will go down, thus so will insurance rates. If scumbag drug dealer is locked up, he won't be out having 5 kids each, thus saving the state money on welfare, ssi, WIC, and foodstamps.... More prisons also means more good paying jobs to staff them.

Just a thought.....
jesse coy

United States

#5 Jun 22, 2011
wow some people did not even read this it said nonviolent offenders idiots like wake up polaticos just jump to conclusions people like you are whats wrong with this country
Gordon Shumway

Gresham, OR

#6 Jun 22, 2011
One of the problems is: most "criminals" do NOT pay for ANY part of their incarceration.

Perhaps, once convicted, the State should seize ALL assets (whatever is left over after the defense attorneys get their share) and apply any of the monies towards the person's share of their incarceration expense.
Anon

Columbus, OH

#7 Jun 23, 2011
Penal Hair System wrote:
If you build more prisons, it will be expensive at first, but in the long run it will save a LOT more money. Crime will go down, thus so will insurance rates. If **** drug dealer is locked up, he won't be out having 5 kids each, thus saving the state money on welfare, ssi, WIC, and foodstamps.... More prisons also means more good paying jobs to staff them.
Just a thought.....
And who will be left to work to pay those prison guards? And lawyers and judges and...

Does it not occur to anyone that when we take parents out of the home for smoking a little reefer, the rest of the family suffers horribly? The remaining parent can't make it, ends up on food stamps and medicaide. The kids swirl into a ditch of mass confusion without two parents. And then we have juvenile issues.

Hillary Clinton is so damned worried that if we legalize drugs, the unemployment rate for prison guards, lawyers, judges and doctors would skyrocket. Okay.'CREATING' needless jobs is nothing but whitecollar welfare, and clearly society can no longer afford to keep them employed. These 'brilliant' people could very well be the entrepreneurs of the future and turn this around.

Times are tough, Hillary. Let them own the growing operations where the rest of us can work.
Taxed_Out

Toledo, OH

#8 Jun 23, 2011
Anon wrote:
<quoted text>..........CREATING' needless jobs is nothing but whitecollar welfare, and clearly society can no longer afford to keep them employed..........
That's the strangest definition of "white collar welfare" I ever heard. It usually refers to "the rich" paying less than their "fair share" of taxes, a class envy tool used by Marxists to rile the proletariat into mob action.
Collins44

Canal Winchester, OH

#9 Jun 23, 2011
We can not maintain the current "prison" system based on demographics.

Elsewhere in this newspaper today there is an article entitled "Census shows whites lose US majority among babies." The minorities are now the majority among babies and will outnumber Whites in mid-century. Also of note in that article is the "family" situation for Blacks where single females outnumber married couples (this is the first time this has happened for any ethnic group in U.S. History). These type of family consume but do not produce. No country can survivie a minority that is becoming the majority with massive numbers either in prison or on welfare, consuming benefits (e.g, food stamps, WIC, free lunches, Section 8) but paying zero taxes. Additionally as the minorities become the majority they will eventually vote to confiscate more and more wealth from the tax paying minority which will end up being a disaster of epic proportions.

Those who refuse to learn the lessons of history are doomed to repeat them.
wastherethen

Dublin, OH

#10 Jun 23, 2011
The GOP goes soft on crime - who would have thunk it?
Old Timer

AOL

#11 Jun 23, 2011
Hmmm.....now I see why expansion of allowing people to carry weapons was passed. We're going to need them to shoot our way out of the day to day situations that will be created by turning criminals back to the streets. The inflated talk of re-education and behavior modification won't do a thing. Those techniques are used as second chances before most of these people go to prison. Now that they won't even be sentenced, good luck on getting them re-educated.

As for not notifying superintendents of foster students placed in their districts who are considered dangerous, are you nuts? Supes are professionals with a need to know, so they can ensure a safe environment for all students. Would you place a drunk, gun carrying person in a public venue or a bar? Oops...covered that already. Seriously, we had a couple of these foster placements over the years for these types of kids. One child changed for the better, and is a hard working adult today, and the other is currently serving a 10 year sentence. While in school, we needed to devote more time to keeping an eye on these people, to ensure the safety of their peers. For the most part, the foster parents were supportive, but realize that some of these people use this as their livelihood.
morgan

Belle Center, OH

#12 Jun 23, 2011
This destroys the sentencing changes that took place in the mid 90's. The defense bar got shorter sentences then in exchange for real time. Now the real time has been eliminated. Don't scream about a lack of law enforcement when there no longer is any real way to punich wrong doers.
Country Joe Fish

United States

#13 Jun 23, 2011
Legalize drugs. That'll cut down on the prison population. Legalize and tax them.
Hope

Marion, OH

#14 Jun 23, 2011
One of the first recent pieces of legislation that makes since from the Senate. I am surprised that Tom Nehus would approve of this since the last administration wanted to do the same thing.
Ilene

Delaware, OH

#15 Jun 23, 2011
Crime is crime and those who commit one need to be imprisoned. Too mant people get out of their sentences early as it is, none of them should get special treatment. If tvs and special programs were eliminated, the state could save money and build more prisons. Why do criminals deserve anything special? THEY"VE COMMITTED A CRIME!
OMG

Columbus, OH

#16 Jun 23, 2011
What the heck are they thinking! The last paragraph, removes the provision that requires superintendents and law enforcement to be notified when a foster child/criminal moves into the area! NCLB is already confining enough! Federal laws keep them in our schools, now our schools aren't even allowed to know that they are there? WTF!
Paul

Laura, OH

#17 Jun 23, 2011
We in Ohio are simply STUPID......... we don't need a Holiday Inn to house
criminals, they don't need to eat great meals three times a day , they are use to living that way before the were sent to prison , why treat them that way now ?

The Sheriff in AR. has the idea , and it works very well . The prisoners live in tents , and they eat basic foods ( beans and rice ).
No air-conditioning , no weight room , no TV room , just basic living .

Now we are going to let basic criminals run free on the streets and hope they report on time for thier METHADONE.

Wate up AMERICA
You Fail

Athens, OH

#18 Jun 23, 2011
Country Joe Fish wrote:
Legalize drugs. That'll cut down on the prison population. Legalize and tax them.
Better yet...Let's inject the druggies with lethal dosages and the is problem solved!

Less Crime!

More Jobs!

Population Control!

It's like a drug induced society abortion with a positive purpose!
Junior

Columbus, OH

#19 Jun 23, 2011
CSD wrote:
This will mean more Democratic voters come November.
Right ON. And they won't have ID's to check.
Jeff

United States

#20 Jun 23, 2011
Penal Hair System wrote:
If you build more prisons, it will be expensive at first, but in the long run it will save a LOT more money. Crime will go down, thus so will insurance rates. If **** drug dealer is locked up, he won't be out having 5 kids each, thus saving the state money on welfare, ssi, WIC, and foodstamps.... More prisons also means more good paying jobs to staff them.
Just a thought.....
Yeah, like we don't pay to feed, house, and provide healthcare to prisoners. Just what we need: half the population in prison, and the other half working in prison-related jobs....... Get a clue!

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