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Bill for concealed guns in bars advances in state Senate | The Columbus Dispatch

There are 35 comments on the Columbus Dispatch story from Apr 13, 2011, titled Bill for concealed guns in bars advances in state Senate | The Columbus Dispatch. In it, Columbus Dispatch reports that:

Should concealed weapons be allowed in bars? Despite strong objections from law enforcement, a Senate committee approved a bill yesterday that would allow Ohioans to carry concealed weapons into bars and restaurants - provided they don't drink.

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Former SWCS Resident

Columbus, OH

#22 Apr 13, 2011
Once again, let's try and be rational. First, if I understand the legislation, you still cannot carry in a bar. It is limited to places where food is the primary service. Second, to the police official who was concerned for police safety with the gun being "legal" to be placed on the dashboard; I believe that would be in plain view of the officer; officers are concerned about one thing; HANDS! If the person in the vehicle makes any sudden moves while the officer approaches, the officer is trained to respond accordingly. Third, and this is getting old, look at what a citizen must do to obtain a concealed handgun license. People that carry and respect firearms will tell you they NEVER mix alcohol and firearms; not even at home. Fourth, my concern as a legally armed citizen, is leaving a restaurant at 11:00 PM and making my way to my car. I am vulnerable and I guarantee there will most likely NOT be a law enforcement officer in sight. Folks, with what is happening to law enforcement budgets, there will be less and less officers on patrol. I have an obligation to protect my family and me. I have no desire to do anything with a handgun except to get me home safe. I plan to avoid confrontations at all costs short of a life threatening situation.
Former SWCS Resident

Columbus, OH

#23 Apr 13, 2011
Sleepy wrote:
Why do you need a gun at Applebees? Do you have delusions of grandeur that you're going to be the one to jump up and save the day when it's being robbed? Or have you watched too many Sopranos episodes that you feel you have so many enemies that you have to worry about "Sleeping with the Fishes" while in Red Robin? Or do you carry the gun to feel like a big, macho man?
Good grief people, leave the gun in the car, go enjoy a nice dinner.
I can't believe this is what we're wasting tax dollars on, our lawmakers debating over where guns & alcohol & kids & unlimited garlic bread should be mixed.
The people should be allowed to have a common sense veto.
PLEASE focus on the formidable threat of a dark, unpopulated parking lot. Everyone is fixed on being armed IN the restaurant. I simply want to go into the restaurant safely; have a nice dinner with NO alcohol and leave safely to my car and go home. Let's face it, the only time you need to have car insurance is the day you have an accident. We have 365 day coverage because we do NOT know when that accident will occur, if ever. If we spend money to protect our car, which can be replaced, why do we not pay as much attention to protect our lives?
More Bravo Sierra

Blacklick, OH

#24 Apr 13, 2011
Is THIS going to bring more jobs? Is This going to fix the roads and bridges? Is THIS going to improve my child's education?

When are the elected going to start doing something that improves the State of Ohio?
Walker Texas Ranger

Granville, OH

#25 Apr 13, 2011
Can anyone cite a time in Ohio that a CCW holder has stopped a crime from being committed?
Libertarian

New York, NY

#26 Apr 13, 2011
Can someone please tell me the last time a law abiding citizen, who legally owned a gun and was licensed by the state to carry it in a concealed fashion, used that gun in a violent crime or to shoot a police officer during a traffic stop. The fact is that the people who take the time to acquire their concealed carry legally are NOT the ones the cops or bar owners have to worry about - it will NOT increase gun violence in bars over discussions on politics, religion, or whatever - and it certainly won't increase police related violence.

It's the folks that already have their guns, many owning and carrying them illegally, that are the ones you have to be careful of - and this change doesn't make one bit of difference to them - they already thumb their noses at most laws and carry illegally everywhere they go.

Come on people, start using your heads and not knee jerk on stuff like this...
Seeking Clarity

Beverly, OH

#27 Apr 13, 2011
GahannaMom wrote:
I am concealed carry and I support this bill. While I do not carry all of the time, I do feel it is my right to carry whenever, and wherever, I choose ...
Just to be clear, then you also support carrying concealed weapons on airplanes, in schools, courtrooms, the statehouse, and so on. "Whenever and wherever," no limits?
Anon

Columbus, OH

#28 Apr 13, 2011
Walker Texas Ranger wrote:
Can anyone cite a time in Ohio that a CCW holder has stopped a crime from being committed?
Do a search they are there. It happens more than you think. For instance I used to live up near the Continent in Columbus. I remember seeing on the news how a guy broke into the Continent Hotel up there and some 70-80 year old woman shot the guy with a 357 magnum or something. Plus, I personally know a guy who used his to stop a group of guys who jumped him and his buddy. Problem is most reports seem to show guns being used to hurt people, apparently using a gun to save your life is less newsworthy.
Seal

Columbus, OH

#29 Apr 13, 2011
Sleepy wrote:
Why do you need a gun at Applebees? Do you have delusions of grandeur that you're going to be the one to jump up and save the day when it's being robbed? Or have you watched too many Sopranos episodes that you feel you have so many enemies that you have to worry about "Sleeping with the Fishes" while in Red Robin? Or do you carry the gun to feel like a big, macho man?
Good grief people, leave the gun in the car, go enjoy a nice dinner.
I can't believe this is what we're wasting tax dollars on, our lawmakers debating over where guns & alcohol & kids & unlimited garlic bread should be mixed.
The people should be allowed to have a common sense veto.
Situations where someone needs a gun in Applebees or Red Robin is very rare - almost never! Walking from your car into and then later out of Applebees, still rare, but not as rare. A lot of people are mugged/robbed returning to their cars after dinner.
will

Columbus, OH

#30 Apr 13, 2011
liquor in the statehouse stop being served?
Ohio Jim

Columbus, OH

#31 Apr 13, 2011
To The Dispatch: Please explain why the updated version of this story doesn't include the 100 postings and comments from the previous version.
Why interrupt an on-going discussion and throw out all the previous comments? It makes no sense at all.
Dan

Galloway, OH

#32 Apr 13, 2011
Guns and Al K. Hall

what can go wrong!

Brilliant!
Jonathan S

Dublin, OH

#33 Apr 13, 2011
Walker Texas Ranger wrote:
Can anyone cite a time in Ohio that a CCW holder has stopped a crime from being committed?
Stupid question. A more releavent question would be when has a ccw holder dished out "old west justice" like the anti-gun prophets said was going to happen when Ohio passed the ccw law.
Shokri

Columbus, OH

#34 Apr 13, 2011
Let's see... overpriced unhealthy food, ridiculously marked-up prices for alcohol, and now the bozo in the next booth feels he "needs" to pack some heat. One more reason to eat at home folks.
Old Timer

AOL

#35 Apr 13, 2011
Now that food establishments can advertise their flat "iron" steaks, business will "boom"...I am so funny
ccw holder

Columbus, OH

#36 Apr 13, 2011
Walker Texas Ranger wrote:
Can anyone cite a time in Ohio that a CCW holder has stopped a crime from being committed?
There are far too many to list on here..however you can go to buckeyefirearms.com and they have an area dedicated to that question.

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