Legislature takes first step toward W...

Legislature takes first step toward West Side casino vote

There are 29 comments on the DispatchPolitics story from Jan 20, 2010, titled Legislature takes first step toward West Side casino vote. In it, DispatchPolitics reports that:

An Ohio Senate committee this morning took the first legislative step toward allowing voters to select a new site for the casino that will be built in Columbus.

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Richard

United States

#1 Jan 20, 2010
Wow! Penn National has played the Mayor, the Dispatch and Mike Curtin like a violyn. They have the Mayor singing the praises of the casino for the jobs it will create and I'd bet the next thing will be that the City wii provide financial incentives for the casino. They will have the support of the Mayor's Development Department in the annexation process. They have exposed the Dispatch and Curtin for the self-serving hipocrits they are. The real reason for their opposition to a casino in the Arena District was that the Dispatch ows a 20% intereast un the development in the area. How can a casino be bad in the Arena District but a great idea for the west side?
It would be just like the voters of Ohio to view us as a bunch of spoiled brats and vote no on the cinstitutional amendment that must be passed in order to move the casino to the west side. Where would a no vote leave Penn National? Back in the Arena District but with the Mayor, the Dispatch and Mike Curtin having sug the praisers of a casino on the west side. Brilliant!
Tom

Columbus, OH

#2 Jan 20, 2010
After this Amendment goes through I wonder if I could get me a Constitutional monopoly to set up a few brothels. I'd want to pick the locations, but I'm willing to negotiate; it doesn't seem to matter if I actually own the land or not. After Governor Strickland and Mayor Coleman get booted from office they could come to work for me -- they aren't too attractive but they've got loads of experience.
Drew

Fredericksburg, VA

#3 Jan 20, 2010
"Penn National worked with Columbus city and business leaders to work out the deal, after some expressed concern that the casino could do more harm than good to the family-oriented atmosphere of the Arena District."

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

It's not like they were building on top of a playground. It's a place where people go to get drunk. For every one kid that goes to a Jackets game there are 10 drunk adults. Seriously. Check it out sometime Dispatch.
Jeremy

Columbus, OH

#4 Jan 20, 2010
Voters get the kind of government they deserve. The day after the election, gambling yahoos started calling in to radio talks shows saying "Hey, let's put the casino in City Center! Why don't they put it at the race track? ETc. Etc. They didn't even read the Issue on the ballot, or they would have seen that it put a specific legal description of the land right in our State Constitution. If there was ever a good argument against Democracy, this is it. And our so-called fearless civic and governmental leaders sat back and let this travesty happen without a peep. Sometimes I'm truly ashamed to be a resident of Ohio.
JRW

Columbus, OH

#5 Jan 20, 2010
Drew wrote:
"Penn National worked with Columbus city and business leaders to work out the deal, after some expressed concern that the casino could do more harm than good to the family-oriented atmosphere of the Arena District."
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
It's not like they were building on top of a playground. It's a place where people go to get drunk. For every one kid that goes to a Jackets game there are 10 drunk adults. Seriously. Check it out sometime Dispatch.
Amen! I don't see these people banning alcohol at Jackets or Clipper games, so why do they care if a casino opens down there? There is nothing family oriented in the Arena District.
Going John Galt

Columbus, OH

#6 Jan 20, 2010
Richard wrote:
Wow! Penn National has played the Mayor, the Dispatch and Mike Curtin like a violyn. They have the Mayor singing the praises of the casino for the jobs it will create and I'd bet the next thing will be that the City wii provide financial incentives for the casino. They will have the support of the Mayor's Development Department in the annexation process. They have exposed the Dispatch and Curtin for the self-serving hipocrits they are. The real reason for their opposition to a casino in the Arena District was that the Dispatch ows a 20% intereast un the development in the area. How can a casino be bad in the Arena District but a great idea for the west side?
It would be just like the voters of Ohio to view us as a bunch of spoiled brats and vote no on the cinstitutional amendment that must be passed in order to move the casino to the west side. Where would a no vote leave Penn National? Back in the Arena District but with the Mayor, the Dispatch and Mike Curtin having sug the praisers of a casino on the west side. Brilliant!
Richard, please don't "bet" on anything yet as there isn't a casino to take the wager yet.
Going John Galt

Columbus, OH

#7 Jan 20, 2010
Drew wrote:
"Penn National worked with Columbus city and business leaders to work out the deal, after some expressed concern that the casino could do more harm than good to the family-oriented atmosphere of the Arena District."
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
It's not like they were building on top of a playground. It's a place where people go to get drunk. For every one kid that goes to a Jackets game there are 10 drunk adults. Seriously. Check it out sometime Dispatch.
Hey, take offense to ththtasst I do. I taaaake my kic to Blue Jacketsss game and drunk not am I seeing....
Going John Galt

Columbus, OH

#8 Jan 20, 2010
Tom wrote:
After this Amendment goes through I wonder if I could get me a Constitutional monopoly to set up a few brothels. I'd want to pick the locations, but I'm willing to negotiate; it doesn't seem to matter if I actually own the land or not. After Governor Strickland and Mayor Coleman get booted from office they could come to work for me -- they aren't too attractive but they've got loads of experience.
Hey Tom, I heard DC is a great place for a House of (w)hores willing to pimp themselves out. Does it have to be in Ohio?
Just saying

Granville, OH

#9 Jan 20, 2010
Jeremy wrote:
They didn't even read the Issue on the ballot, or they would have seen that it put a specific legal description of the land right in our State Constitution.
Only one problem with your statement -- it's not true. While the exact statutory language of the amendment lists the legal descriptions, the BALLOT DID NOT. The ballot was only a summary of the amendment and did not specify any specific locations. It only specified the 4 CITIES, nothing else about any site.
JADD

Columbus, OH

#10 Jan 20, 2010
Like heck we'll support this. Any vote on or about gambling is a no vote in my neighborhood. Get rid of this plague on our community, once and for all.
superdish

Columbus, OH

#11 Jan 20, 2010
Of all places... the west side (little Mexico)! Better start the clean up process now! Not sure anyone from Columbus or the suburbs will do much gambling!

Since: Oct 09

Columbus, OH

#12 Jan 20, 2010
If I knew that they were going to put the casino on the west side, I would have voted no the first time around....

The voting system has failed us all

“So far left, I'm right”

Since: Aug 09

Location hidden

#13 Jan 20, 2010
wow, the dispatch and its overlords even have the state senate in their pocket and doing their bidding...wow
Richard Columbus

Ann Arbor, MI

#14 Jan 20, 2010
I think it is amazing the all the talk of the evils of gambling have stopped. I mean dead stopped. No great out cry to repeal the amendment. Just the AD not wanting the property values to drop because of the wrong type showing up. The wrong type? Those in Columbus who had no reason to go to the AD but would when the casino was built. What would happen to the AD if the people of Columbus came down during the week, and there was a convention in town?
And the spins “family fun Area” ya right,“Beloved Culture center”, ok they have concerts and a movie theater. GAG. No live theater, no art galleries, but wait we do have hockey.

The one legitimate reason, the only legitimate reason for the casino not to go in the AD, the traffic, and that one is weak.

Not once in the defense of the AD were the words “best for Columbus” heard. What was best for Columbus was not important to the AD, only that those that live in the area that surrounds it didn’t invade and enjoy themselves on a daily bias.

Coleman didn’t offer other sites to better Columbus; he did it to keep the city of Columbus out of his “Jewel.” He had to protect that above all else.

“They are the wrong type for this neighborhood; they will bring down the property values.”
I wonder how man times those words were told to the first real estate agent when a black family or Asian family was shown a home in Upper Arlington, Dublin or Worthington. Hate has a new face.

Soon, thanks to Coleman, the AD, the state Government, and on this next election the state we will all be free to hate those that have one penny less than us. It will become a state policy. A person that owns a house is free to hate one who rents; some one who rents a house is free to hate some one who has a two bedroom apartment, at the bottom of the hate pile, the homeless. After all what joy is there in life unless you are free to hate. And the homeless, who do they get to hate. No one, all they have to do is be the embers for the pot of hate, and wait for it to boil over.

In the end, the casino will land in a place where it can do the most good. Now there is a reason to develop the west corridor, but only by accident, not intention. Watch the property sales on W. Broad for the next few years. But the cost is the soul of Columbus.

The casino itself has nothing to do with it, nor gambling. The AD, Coleman, the state government and the state will sell it just to keep “the wrong type” in their place.

Welcome to the new American, where all are created equal, but your value as a human being is decided by your paycheck.

Since: Jan 10

Columbus, OH

#15 Jan 20, 2010
@ Richard Columbus -

It's been about the money the city power brokers have (and that no one in any other location has) and about the class issue the whole time.

And I agree --- the westside needs the development, and if something good can come of it, then great... but I would hate to see Coleman or anyone else every take credit for it.
TEXinDFW

Frisco, TX

#16 Jan 20, 2010
The crime and sleaze and social costs that accompany gambling are just as sure as the sun coming up tomorrow. Of course, we see that there are already prostitutes and pimps in the halls of power in cental OH. What else would one expect?
Taxed2much

New York, NY

#17 Jan 20, 2010
I'll vote NO again. Let's see what they do with that! Besides the CBJ are so bad people need some other reason to go to the Arena District anyway.
still crazy

Sidney, OH

#18 Jan 20, 2010
we will all regret the day we did not put the casino in the AD. The Blues Jackets are awful and runing huge deficits, the bars are usually empty and the casino would have helped us get conventions.
but...let's all let the Dispatch take us down the drain. look what they did to the paper.
Uppity Peasant

Columbus, OH

#19 Jan 20, 2010
It's obvious the City and State are only interested in the taxes generated by a casino and not the possible jobs that the old GM plant could generate.

Lets take a manufacturing facility that could employ thousands and contribute to the GDP of the state and country and turn it into a playground where a few people are employed and the rest are spending money they don't have. It generates tax revenue but it doesn't contribute to the GDP.

I guess Ohio's new claim to fame will be that we make more poor people than any other state.
Crazy

Columbus, OH

#20 Jan 20, 2010
Richard wrote:
Wow! Penn National has played the Mayor, the Dispatch and Mike Curtin like a violyn. They have the Mayor singing the praises of the casino for the jobs it will create and I'd bet the next thing will be that the City wii provide financial incentives for the casino. They will have the support of the Mayor's Development Department in the annexation process. They have exposed the Dispatch and Curtin for the self-serving hipocrits they are. The real reason for their opposition to a casino in the Arena District was that the Dispatch ows a 20% intereast un the development in the area. How can a casino be bad in the Arena District but a great idea for the west side?
It would be just like the voters of Ohio to view us as a bunch of spoiled brats and vote no on the cinstitutional amendment that must be passed in order to move the casino to the west side. Where would a no vote leave Penn National? Back in the Arena District but with the Mayor, the Dispatch and Mike Curtin having sug the praisers of a casino on the west side. Brilliant!
I'm not a Coleman supporter, but I'm not sure why you keep saying that the mayor is singing praised for the casino. Back in October, the weekend before the election, Coleman was right on when he said "it would handcuff cities on the location and oversight of the casinos and would create a gambling monopoly". Plus, if you read the article, which it appears you didn't, he is quoted as saying "This doesn't bless gambling or the tax rate. All this does is change the address from one location to another based upon a community process that transpired in the city of Columbus."

I'm going to vote NO in May. It's time we quit messing around with the constitution with stupid stuff that doesn't belong in there in the first place.

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