Bill for concealed guns in bars advances in state Senate

There are 367 comments on the DispatchPolitics story from Apr 13, 2011, titled Bill for concealed guns in bars advances in state Senate. In it, DispatchPolitics reports that:

Should concealed weapons be allowed in bars? DispatchPolitics Despite strong objections from law enforcement, a Senate committee approved a bill yesterday that would allow Ohioans to carry concealed weapons into bars and restaurants - provided they don't drink.

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#442 Apr 16, 2011
mike wrote:
Wow. You must have a problem with discerning fact.
Not only does the article emphatically state that law enforcement is against this measure...
Pigs have no say about our 2nd amendment right to keep and bear arms.
mike wrote:
It is very clear common sense-wise that such a provision would directly increase an officer's danger when they come to the scene...
If pigs are afraid of danger they should seek other employment. Our rights trump the pigs' safety.
mike wrote:
very similar to domestic disputes--the officer must deal with additional "unknowns"
Men don't need a gun to kill their wives, Liar.
mike wrote:
...the officer must deal with additional "unknowns" coming to a drinking establishment with an indeterminable number of guns inside...just like arriving at a home with weapons inside. Domestic disputes are the most deadly situations officers routinely face;
Not true, liar. Criminals have guns and are unknown to the pigs, who cares anyway.
mike wrote:
with this legislation,the bar scene will quickly rachet up in its level of danger to our police.
Finally, the FOP & other police organizations express the will of its membership.So how could one read anything less into the factual statements in the article?
Such FALLACY you engage in with your statements!
Are they really YOUR police ? Our danger is much more important than is the danger of pigs. Only a nazi would believe pigs' safety is more important than others.
Just Facts

United States

#443 Apr 17, 2011
Reader wrote:
Hold the presses!
And exactly how many of the twelve people in Columbus shot over the weekend had just left bars? About 10 out of the 12?
Are we just plain stupid?
None of them were permit holders!!!!!
The people that dont have a permit dont follow the rules anyway!!!
AMowery

Greenville, SC

#444 Apr 17, 2011
Tory II wrote:
<quoted text>Pigs have no say about our 2nd amendment right to keep and bear arms.
<quoted text>If pigs are afraid of danger they should seek other employment. Our rights trump the pigs' safety.
<quoted text>Men don't need a gun to kill their wives, Liar.
<quoted text>Not true, liar. Criminals have guns and are unknown to the pigs, who cares anyway.
<quoted text>Are they really YOUR police ? Our danger is much more important than is the danger of pigs. Only a nazi would believe pigs' safety is more important than others.
Ignorance full tilt.
tam520

Lewis Center, OH

#445 Apr 25, 2011
'Guns in bars' is far too broad a brush stroke. Applebees, TGIF, BW3, etc. is where most people would carry. People say 'guns in bars' and everyone automatically thinks NIGHTCLUB. Not the case. But to make the bill more tolerable...carry in restaurant area of bar would be a great stipulation IMO. Everyone's so scared of some drunked CC permit holder shooting up the bar. How many states currently allow this? Exactly. And how many rampant shootings as a result? 0.
Jim

Middleboro, MA

#446 Apr 25, 2011
tam520 wrote:
'Guns in bars' is far too broad a brush stroke. Applebees, TGIF, BW3, etc. is where most people would carry. People say 'guns in bars' and everyone automatically thinks NIGHTCLUB. Not the case. But to make the bill more tolerable...carry in restaurant area of bar would be a great stipulation IMO. Everyone's so scared of some drunked CC permit holder shooting up the bar. How many states currently allow this? Exactly. And how many rampant shootings as a result? 0.
As I've said before it makes do diference if a person has a Ccw, carries in the open, or up their dress. It also make NO difference if the grand standing GOP Senate pass a bill. The simple fact is if Applebees, TGIF, or whoever places a sign on their door that says NO guns end of story, period, law or no law. Most people think that if the GOP grandstanders passes this bill its carry as I please. The fact is its PRIVATE property. People out of work in Ohio, Kasich running loose, and him trying to pass a budget sticking it to local goverments and schools, and GOP granding Senate want to waste time on this. What a waste!
Camilla

Millington, TN

#447 Apr 25, 2011
Jim wrote:
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As I've said before it makes do diference if a person has a Ccw, carries in the open, or up their dress. It also make NO difference if the grand standing GOP Senate pass a bill. The simple fact is if Applebees, TGIF, or whoever places a sign on their door that says NO guns end of story, period, law or no law. Most people think that if the GOP grandstanders passes this bill its carry as I please. The fact is its PRIVATE property. People out of work in Ohio, Kasich running loose, and him trying to pass a budget sticking it to local goverments and schools, and GOP granding Senate want to waste time on this. What a waste!
"whoever places a sign on their door that says NO guns end of story". They might as well have a sign that says "All criminals welcome here. We are unarmed and defenseless."
Hank G

Columbus, OH

#448 Apr 25, 2011
FreeloaderFred wrote:
If you need a gun just to survive in a bar, then maybe you should be smart enough to pick a safer place to go.
There are enough people that lose control of themselves after downing just a little alcohol to make it unwise to allow gun carrying by those people. How do you reliably determine in advance who those people will be?
Once that bullet is launched, even the best marksman has no control over its destination. If the other guy is using a gun, then you have just that many more bullets flying aroundl.
Just check the guns at the door (the one at home).
The same overused rhetoric by another "sheeple". Once again, the law stipulates that YOU CAN NOT CONSUME ALCOHOL WHILE CARRYING A FIREARM. Being in a bar or business that serves alcohol does not compel me to drink. Can you understand that concept? CHL holders have commited too much time and effort to jepordize losing their right to carry for the sake of a drink. It's the people without CHL's that you need to be concerned with.

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