Two Teens Dead In Fatal Joy Ride

Full story: WSET-TV Lynchburg

One joy ride turned tragic for a Henrico County family. Police say 14-year-old Heather Moorefield and 15-year-old Robert Snead were killed when the Honda they were riding in was broadsided.

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Give me a break. I never mentioned white or my race. I am white-just so you will know. I just wanted to make a point to you all. I never said a thing about hating whites. I cannot hate my own people. I did not mention white I mentioned RICH kids only.
Wake up west end people and start supervising your kids. YOU ALL JUMPED TO A LOT OF CONCLUSIONS ABOUT THE PREVIOUS POST. Your conclusion is totally wrong. I am just trying to get you all to wake up since you clearly do not have a hand on your own kids. I am trying to get you to save your kids.---SUPERVISE THE MORE
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And by the way, my heartless friend, that we rich white folk have hearts sometimes, and the loss of Robert and Heather caused and continues to cause many of us a great deal of pain. Also, the West End is not some Klansman's heaven. There are plenty of people of all races and backgrounds out here. Some areas are affluent and some not so much. It's just like anywhere else. But hating the folks who are living a comfortable, financially secure life for that fact and only hating the white ones makes no sense. Please go away and never come back. To the families of Heather and Robert, and everyone who was in any way affected by the tragedy of 2-25-2006, I am sorry you have to read the hideous and hateful words of people like this one. The pain of loss is bad enough without someone poking at it, trying to make it worse because they don't care. Just keep in mind that I do. Always have, and always will. I never knew Heather, regrettably, but I knew Robert, and I can vouch for his character personally. He was no hoodlum. He was a great guy, and nothing any hateful, insensitive fool could ever say about him will change that. RIP Heather Moorefield and Robert Snead. I'm never going to forget either of you.
JurassicOAl, your last post makes my point. where did I mention race these dead kids race. I mentioned only rich and west end. You brought in their race. I was only trying to make a poin that west enders need to recognize that our kids are not as innocent as we think they are. They do the same things if not more tha kids in the city do. WAKE UP WEST END PEOPLE. I am white and only wanted to make a point about our kids. We need to recognize that all of these kids were too young to be driving. It was not just the kid that survived- it was Heather Moorefield and Robert Snead as well. Corey was not the only one at fault. My point is that if these were all black kids, we would not be so forgiving and making them all angelic.
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Mar 14, 2010
 
Believe in One wrote:
Give me a break. I never mentioned white or my race. I am white-just so you will know. I just wanted to make a point to you all. I never said a thing about hating whites. I cannot hate my own people. I did not mention white I mentioned RICH kids only.
Wake up west end people and start supervising your kids. YOU ALL JUMPED TO A LOT OF CONCLUSIONS ABOUT THE PREVIOUS POST. Your conclusion is totally wrong. I am just trying to get you all to wake up since you clearly do not have a hand on your own kids. I am trying to get you to save your kids.---SUPERVISE THE MORE
Okay, fine. Maybe you didn't. But I have heard that one before *with* race thrown in, so I reacted in the manner I'm used to doing on that end of it. But don't misunderstand me- I have absolutely no intention of ever giving you anything resembling a break. Why should I? And you certainly jumped to plenty of conclusions, yourself. All that resentment towards us rich West End types? Hm, no-no. Stop telling us to 'wake up', it makes you sound insane. You can't be trying to 'save' anyone. Your words were and are hostile, your tone shows the greatest of disrespect for my classmates, their background, and all they ever were. I would rather get killed in a similar manner myself than ever listen to you. There are lessons to be learned from such tragedies. But you do not see this as a tragedy. You see it as a favor to the world. And that, to me, is beyond unforgivable. I hate you. I will never listen to you. Show my dead classmates, their friends, their families, the tiniest shred of respect, and get the **** off this site! Do we have, perhaps, something approaching an understanding? Am I clear? I dearly hope so. You disgust me more than you could ever comprehend.
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JurassicOAl, your last post makes my point. where did I mention race these dead kids race. I mentioned only rich and west end. You brought in their race. I was only trying to make a poin that west enders need to recognize that our kids are not as innocent as we think they are. They do the same things if not more tha kids in the city do. WAKE UP WEST END PEOPLE. I am white and only wanted to make a point about our kids. We need to recognize that all of these kids were too young to be driving. It was not just the kid that survived- it was Heather Moorefield and Robert Snead as well. Corey was not the only one at fault. My point is that if these were all black kids, we would not be so forgiving and making them all angelic.
We? You gotta be kidding me. You gotta be ****ing kidding me! There is no 'we' here. NONE. You and I would only be a 'we' if the Russians invaded, and we fought against them. Then I'd go back to hating you full time. I refuse to discuss the details of this event with you. You weren't there. You don't know me or anyone else who was. What the **** do you care, and who do you think you are, barging on here with your bizarre worldview and self-appointed status as some weird crusader. So rich kids aren't innocent. You think the poor ones are? And what's your point about the people I live around? That, in the West End, we're all pompous racists who care nothing for colored- or white- inhabitants of the city? Thanks. I'll write that down, crumple up the note, then set it on fire and toss it out the window. I hate you. Stop insulting the memory of my classmates. You know nothing, understand me? Nothing! All you know is what you saw on the news four years ago. And here you are, thinking you can tell me, and everyone else in the Class of 2009, who we really are and that our tributes to our lost classmates should not have been made. Show some respect, and GO AWAY. I refuse to speak to you about the details, or debate the causes, of the incident of February 25, 2006. I want you to leave, and never come back. If you persist in bothering me and desecrating this site, I will assume you to be the most low, contemptible human being I have ever met. Leave. You are not welcome here. You don't deserve a break. You know who does? My classmates. Heather and Robert. How about giving them a break, scum? Or is that too much work for you? It probably is. Knowing you, it probably is.
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Mar 17, 2010
 
NewsAt11 wrote:
New developments in the case of two Godwin High School students killed in a car accident last February. The 15-year-old driver charged in the case had his trial Monday.
The 15-year-old pled "not innocent" to misdemeanor charges of violating curfew and driving without a license. However, he pled innocent to a felony charge of unauthorized use of a vehicle.
According to police, shortly after midnight, the teenager snuck out of his house, took his mother's car without her permission and went joy-riding with a group of friends. A ride which ended in a fatal crash, killing 14-year-old Heather Moorefield and 15-year-old Robert Snead.

After the trial, the families of both victims, spoke publicly for the first time.
Nearly 20 family and friends of the victims packed the courtroom -- Robert Snead's family wearing t-shirt's and Heather Moorefield's wearing buttons, bearing pictures of the loved ones they lost. They tell me they wanted the judge, and more importantly, the 15-year-old driver, to remember them.
Heather's mom, Dana Castelvecchi, says, "I just want people to remember her. My biggest fear is one day she'll be forgotten."
Police were never able to determine who ran the red light that caused the fatal crash, and the 15-year-old was never charged in relation to Robert and Heather's deaths. But, both families tell me they still feel he's at least partly to blame.
Robert's father, Gary Snead, says, "They got in the car, they went with him. Had it not been for him taking the car, none of this would have happened."
The parents say it's upsetting to them that the 15-year-old doesn't appear to be sorry. Dana says, "We have not seen any remorse. No one has ever apologized for anything."
And they're against the defense's motion to reduce the felony charge to a misdemeanor.
They say they want the teenager to be held accountable, to send a strong message to other teens in the community.
Snead says, "Does this kid need jail time? I'm not 100% sure I'd agree with that. But, you know take his license "till he's 25, that would suit me fine."
The judge will sentence the 15 year old on February 9th. The teenager's defense attorney, declined comment.
I'm glad this news bulletin was posted, and I deeply respect the wish of the Snead and Moorefield families that Robert and Heather be remembered, and that their greatest fear is that they'll be forgotten one day. To both families, I promise this- they won't be, not so long as even one person remembers. They won't be, not on my watch. And I know there's classmates of mine out there who feel the same way.
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#128
Mar 22, 2010
 
I remember, the Friday of the weekend this happened, I was sitting in English class, and heard Robert talking to somebody else in the class- don't remember who- about 'having some fun' that weekend. Odds are, the joyride was what he was talking about, and we all know the result. For years now, I've wondered- if I had said something to Robert, tried to sway him towards doing something safer, would things have been different? I'll live the rest of my life not knowing, and wishing I'd said something. At least then I could say I tried. The one chance I had to do something, to prevent all of this, and I did nothing. I would say I'm sorry, and I am, but we all know that's never enough.
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Okay, fine. Maybe you didn't. But I have heard that one before *with* race thrown in, so I reacted in the manner I'm used to doing on that end of it. But don't misunderstand me- I have absolutely no intention of ever giving you anything resembling a break. Why should I? And you certainly jumped to plenty of conclusions, yourself. All that resentment towards us rich West End types? Hm, no-no. Stop telling us to 'wake up', it makes you sound insane. You can't be trying to 'save' anyone. Your words were and are hostile, your tone shows the greatest of disrespect for my classmates, their background, and all they ever were. I would rather get killed in a similar manner myself than ever listen to you. There are lessons to be learned from such tragedies. But you do not see this as a tragedy. You see it as a favor to the world. And that, to me, is beyond unforgivable. I hate you. I will never listen to you. Show my dead classmates, their friends, their families, the tiniest shred of respect, and get the **** off this site! Do we have, perhaps, something approaching an understanding? Am I clear? I dearly hope so. You disgust me more than you could ever comprehend.
Have you ever considered therapy. You clearly are in need of psychiatric help for your pain. You rich ass kids in the west end need to start showing respect for others. You joyride when you are underage and put other people lives in jeopardy and think nothing of it. Then you want everyone to call your dead friends a hero. Their dead for being stupid, thinking they are immortal and the world is theres. Well right now Robert and Heather are learning that Hell is theres. You and the reso of godwin should wake up and learn not to joy ride in mommie and daddy's car when they are not home. Your darn parents need to wake up and learn that you need more supervision. You reacted so quick and threw in race whenn race is not the issue. It is stupidity here. They had a disregard for the law and life of others and lost their own lives as a result. Get over it!! Move on and don't steal mommies car to joyride.
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Apr 12, 2010
 
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i've kno heather my whole life... since the 4th grade... anyone tat badmouths her is gonna pay... she was a nice girl.
She may have been nice but she was stupid.
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Nov 19, 2010
 
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She may have been nice but she was stupid.
Did you know her? If you didn't, I would suggest quieting down and going away. Real soon. To clarify, I have no intention of doing anything irrational, and I do not mean to suggest anything threatening in any way.

But.

If you didn't know Heather or Robert, stop and think about it before you start running your mouth and passing judgement. You didn't know either of them. You never will. This is an intensely painful subject for those who did know Heather and/or Robert, and seeing total strangers come along and tell us who they were is not fun.
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Have you ever considered therapy. You clearly are in need of psychiatric help for your pain. You rich ass kids in the west end need to start showing respect for others. You joyride when you are underage and put other people lives in jeopardy and think nothing of it. Then you want everyone to call your dead friends a hero. Their dead for being stupid, thinking they are immortal and the world is theres. Well right now Robert and Heather are learning that Hell is theres. You and the reso of godwin should wake up and learn not to joy ride in mommie and daddy's car when they are not home. Your darn parents need to wake up and learn that you need more supervision. You reacted so quick and threw in race whenn race is not the issue. It is stupidity here. They had a disregard for the law and life of others and lost their own lives as a result. Get over it!! Move on and don't steal mommies car to joyride.
No. I have not considered therapy. Thanks for your utterly false concern- it means the world to me- but I don't need therapy. Thanks for calling.

You know, I never once said I approved of what Heather and Robert did. Never once did I say that. Nor did I suddenly start comparing them to Victoria Cross recipients or anything. But what I have been doing, and continue to do, is refuse to pass judgement on them or on the opinions of those who have something to say about either one of them. All I have done since February 25, 2006 is miss two fine classmates. It is no business of mine, what my classmates and other friends and relatives of Robert and Heather have to say here and elsewhere concerning them. It is not my place to judge what they say, or to judge how those who knew Heather and Robert choose to remember them.

You must understand that I reacted strongly because this is an intensely emotional issue. Can't you even understand that? Or respect that?

Nevermind race. Nevermind money, or anything else. Regardless of what Heather and Robert chose to do and whether it was right or wrong, my point is this-

You have insulted me, you have insulted the memory of Heather and Robert, and shown gross disrespect on a level that is simply stunning to behold. You have crossed to many lines, issued too many insults. I do not care to discuss any of this with you. Except to rebuke your pitiful insults and tell you to go away.

Yes, it's easy to tell someone to "get over" this or that. Even when it involves dead friends and loved ones. Perhaps you have been so fortunate all these years as to have never truly suffered loss on such a scale as I and others did on February 25, 2006.

I'll assume you have been so fortunate and tell you this: sooner or later it will happen to you. You'll lose someone you'll always miss. And unless you have no emotions, no soul, you will find ways to continue living but you will never, ever, "get over it".

I don't think of the decision Robert and Heather made. I don't think of their faults and imperfections. All I think of is what great people they were... and how I'll always miss them.
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Nov 19, 2010
 
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YET AGAIN IF U DID NOT KNOW ROBERT OR HEATHER NO SO BUT OUT! SERIOUSLY
That's exactly what I've been telling people all this time. If you didn't know Heather or Robert, especially if you didn't even have any connection to them at all, you oughta butt out.

The only people who have a business on this forum are those who knew Heather or Robert in some way. Actually, I'll make an exception. Of the folks who did not know Robert Snead or Heather Moorefield, only the ones who are willing to respect their memory and the opinions of their classmates have any business here. Folks who didn't know them and want to come barging on here like they've got all the answers should not bother.

Thanks for your comment.
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Nov 19, 2010
 
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WOW, you've got to be f*cking kidding me. you obviously know NOTHING....my brother did not steal a car for one. and he did f*cking use them...he probably did a million times more than you ever will in your life time. you have no fucking heart. and "he didnt use them long"....WHO ELSE COULD HAVE? its not like if he wasnt born they would have gone to someone else..no..your a f*cking idiot. and he did use them, it was the best years of my life, so no they werent a waste. all i have to say to you is karma is a b*tch....screw you.
That's about what I thought when I saw that particular comment. Lovely, isn't it? No, some people don't have much of a heart. If you ever have doubts about that, look to the KGB, the SS, the Gestapo- people who not only had no heart but probably had no soul.
What I'm saying in bringing that up is that there are some people in the world who are ice-cold to the core. No empathy at all. It's terrible but true.

I agree. Robert was a great guy. I always liked him. I remember how shy I used to be, how quiet I was in the 9th grade when he and I were in the same English class. I remember, even now, how Robert never once picked on or bothered me. He actually talked to me some, encouraged me to be more outgoing. They say a little kindness can go a long way, and it's absolutely true. I know it is, because all these years later I still remember like it was yesterday. And you're right about karma, too- it really is a b*tch. Some of these people, coming on here and so harshly criticising two people they never knew, are going to find that out someday.

It doesn't really matter to me whether what Heather and Robert chose to do on February 25, 2006 was right or wrong. It's not my place to judge. But what I do know, what does matter to me, is that Robert Snead was there when I needed him, and for the rest of my life, he'll always be with me.
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Nov 19, 2010
 
To those who it may concern:

My first name is Alan. I am a member of the Mills E. Godwin High School Class of 2009.

I never knew Heather Moorefield, to my lasting regret. It sounds like she was a good person in all regards.

I did know Robert Snead, however, though not for very long. He was in the English class I took with Mrs. Ashworth in 9th grade.

Everyone who comes onto this forum should make their posts with nothing short of the greatest care and respect. Many of the folks who post on here, or simply view the posts from time to time, lost a loved one on February 25, 2006.
It is a very unkind thing to intrude upon the thoughts and feelings of those people with petty insults and uninvited judgements and criticisms.

Be respectful if you make a post here. That is all I ask.
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Nov 19, 2010
 
Gary Snead wrote:
I just discovered this site when I googled Robert Leland Snead...You see, I'm Robert's Dad, and when I'm feeling a little down, sometimes I google his name to see who remembers him and how...Reading some of the posts to this site made me want to offer a few words. To those of you who have defended the kid's, and the use of "hero", thank you. To those of you who have seen fit to comment in a negative way on the situation without the benefit of the details, have a little empathy for those who suffer through this, and perhaps comment after a little more thought about the effects your comments may have...Remember that sometimes "discretion is the better part of valor".
To my daughter, I love you for sticking up for your brother, and I know he loves you for it too. I hope that all of you will take a lesson from this tragedy, and make good choices in life...And live life as my son did, in each moment, because it truly could be your last. Bless you all and goodnight.
Sir. It is an honor to speak to you, sir. I regret that I have not yet been able to do so in person.

I too discovered this site upon entering your son's name on a Google search. I, too, wanted to see what the result would be and if anyone, out there on the vast reaches of the internet, was making some effort to show Robert was not forgotten. And so I found this forum. And I have been visiting it from time to time ever since.

I rarely ever use the word hero, sir. I leave the use of that label up to those who are better qualified to determine what a hero really is. But, as far as calling Heather Moorefield and Robert Snead heroes goes- I have no objection to it. It's not my place to judge anyone who decides to call either of them a hero.

I very much appreciate those who have made positive and respectful comments on here. I am grateful in particular, towards the people who didn't know Heather or Robert and were kind enough to respect their memory and the comments of those who did know them anyway.

I want to assure you, sir, that Robert Snead and Heather Moorefield will never be forgotten. Someone, somewhere, will always remember them. They were known and liked by too many people to be forgotten.
I knew Robert for a short time. He was in my English class in the 9th grade. I was much quieter and more shy then than I am now, and I still remember how although Robert did not know me very well, he went out of his way a few times to talk to me, encouraging me to be more outgoing. Over the years since 2006 I have gradually done so, in no small part due to a desire to honor Robert's memory and the advice he gave me.

I don't know if you ever heard, sir, but there was an event that occurred one day in English class before Robert's death. It was very quiet in the classroom, and nothing seemed to be going on. Desiring to point this out in a humorous fashion, Robert decided to hold out a pencil parallel to the floor of the classroom and drop it. He tried to get the whole class to do the same, but only a few others did so.

After the weekend of the 25th, on the Monday we all came in and learned Robert and Heather were dead, something happened in English class I'll never forget. We all took out a pencil and dropped it, as a final salute to Robert.

I think, had he been there, Robert would have been pleased. That's how I'll always remember it.

Thanks for posting that comment, sir. Thanks ever so much. I know you made it some time ago, but I sincerely hope that one day you'll read this response. Thank you.
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Nov 19, 2010
 
Fellow teen wrote:
**REMEMBER when things were Simple?
&& the only big decisions were monkey bars
or swings, when the only fake people we knew
were barbie and ken && when the friends
you loved disappeared they were only playing
hide and seek.**
(I thought it kinda fit.) Altough this is a public forum and anyone can say anything, you could at least do it in a respectful manner. Don't tear down the ppl who knew them by saying they weren't hero's or anything like that. Maybe they aren't heros to you but you didn't know them so who are you to judge?? you have no right!
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"At the same time, though, I feel that many of the attacks on SWEETPEA are unfounded"
Why are they unfounded irishman? If sweetpea comes on this board telling everyone they weren't heros, when she/he didn't even know them, that is rude and heartless, and she/he is putting themselves out there to be "attacked" as you say.
That was a great comment, Fellow teen. Thanks for taking the time to write it, the poem especially. I greatly appreciate it.
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Mar 4, 2011
 
I was real impressed by what I saw at one corner of the intersection where the accident occurred, when I went out there this year. Somebody had put up two posters, one for Heather and Robert and the other specifically for Robert. Flowers were placed, two of them in glass vases. And someone had left a Sharpie pen so people could sign the posters. More than ten people have done so, last I saw. It's real nice to know that so many people in the Class of 2009 remember.
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I have read through this thread and I see both sides to the story.

To the young men and women that lost a loved one, friend, brother, or sister. I can empathize with you, as this happened to me when I was young. It was tragic, and it was such a waste of lives, lives that were to go unfullfilled, lives that were ended way too soon. To those that they touched, sure, they were your heros.

Never the less, they made a bad choice, whether it was their first in their lives or the millionth. What we want for you young men and women is to realize, and take this tragedy and learn from it. Every action has a consequence. When you say, "what's the worst that could happen?" This is the worst that could happen.

Fast forward 25+ years, and now I have children your age. I cannot fathom, and I don't want to understand how their parents feel. It breaks my heart knowning that there will be emptiness in their lives. I am sure that their parents are blaming themselves enough, without being lectured by some annoymous message board poster on how to raise their children.

God Bless, kids, make good decisions and may success find you at the end of those decisions. Life is fragile, Carpe Diem, for tomorrow we may die, but do it carefully, because we owe it to our loved ones to live.

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Mar 12, 2011
 
This is what happens when you choose to joyride, they made a choice, they suffered the consequences. I have no sympathy for those who die doing dumb shit! If this happened to one of my family members, yes I would be saddened BUT more so mad that they would chose to doing something so idiotic.
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Mar 12, 2011
 
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This is what happens when you choose to joyride, they made a choice, they suffered the consequences. I have no sympathy for those who die doing dumb shit! If this happened to one of my family members, yes I would be saddened BUT more so mad that they would chose to doing something so idiotic.
Well, isn't that nice. This comment is considerably less irritating and disrespectful than others I've seen on here. Notice I didn't say it is not irritating or disrespectful. Because it is. The most positive thing I can say is that MrHawk757's comment contributes nothing to the discussion. MrHawk757 has nothing to say in this comment that someone else, no matter what their point of view, hasn't said on here already and better.
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Mar 12, 2011
 
Well wrote:
I have read through this thread and I see both sides to the story.
To the young men and women that lost a loved one, friend, brother, or sister. I can empathize with you, as this happened to me when I was young. It was tragic, and it was such a waste of lives, lives that were to go unfullfilled, lives that were ended way too soon. To those that they touched, sure, they were your heros.
Never the less, they made a bad choice, whether it was their first in their lives or the millionth. What we want for you young men and women is to realize, and take this tragedy and learn from it. Every action has a consequence. When you say, "what's the worst that could happen?" This is the worst that could happen.
Fast forward 25+ years, and now I have children your age. I cannot fathom, and I don't want to understand how their parents feel. It breaks my heart knowning that there will be emptiness in their lives. I am sure that their parents are blaming themselves enough, without being lectured by some annoymous message board poster on how to raise their children.
God Bless, kids, make good decisions and may success find you at the end of those decisions. Life is fragile, Carpe Diem, for tomorrow we may die, but do it carefully, because we owe it to our loved ones to live.
I've got nothing to say about that. Frankly I think the many comments I've made prior to this should more than adequately explain where I stand on all this. I'll say one other thing, though- if all comments outsiders made on this forum were like this one, it would probably be a better forum.

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