Why They Hate Obama

There are 12491 comments on the The Daily Beast story from Aug 8, 2013, titled Why They Hate Obama. In it, The Daily Beast reports that:

As the Virginia Flaggers loft their Confederate flag in opposition to the 'tyranny' of 2013, Jamelle Bouie argues that racial bias plays at least some part in Obama's collapse in the South.

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“Angry Antlers ”

Since: Sep 08

Miami

#7485 Feb 10, 2014
xxxrayted wrote:
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Sure it matters because you are taking away choice. When Americans had their choice, they chose cheap overseas products over more expensive American made products. That's why WalMart is number one today.
But let's say Obama is reading our blog right now and decides to act on your suggestion. He enacts an import tariff. What happens to your $15.00 toaster, your $75.00 blender, your $6.50 string of christmas lights, your $400.00 cell phone?
Oh, but increasing the prices of these items will push people towards American made products. This is true except for one thing: many American families only have so much to spend when they shop. If they spend $100.00 at Walmart and come home with 14 items, after the tariff, they will still spend $100.00 only come home with ten or eleven items instead.
But that's okay because Americans will be working since they are selling more products to the American people. True. However now that we have an import tariff on goods, our trading partners place a tariff on our exports, and that decrease in exports offsets any gains we made by selling Americans our own products.
It's a zero sum gain. Nobody will be at an advantage and the poor and middle-class will be at a disadvantage since they are spending the same money but getting less.
Wow, so much wrong there that needs unpacking.....

First of all, I would propose breaking up Walmart as a monopoly, which it is....it's been allowed for too long to destroy main street American businesses and get away with it. Using their massive, untaxed, surplus wealth to cajole, and in some cases, outright support and purchase local politicians in order to get necessary permits to open stores in demographics they desire. This happened locally, so I'm well aware of the tactics.

Many municipalities will offer free utility hookups, infrastructure improvements, roads, waivers, to the point it costs Walmart nothing to open a store. All in the promise of a couple of hundred low wage, no future jobs. And local retailers start closing, adding to the unemployment and vacancy rates.

Walmart also is the biggest user of public assitance.....as they encourage their employees to "take advantage" of public assistance when their pay falls short. Up to and including holding classes on how to fill out the federal paperwork.

As to tariffs, Republicans fail to use our massive leverage in buying power.....to force concessions from importers. Of course, I'm all for giving corporations the chance to make the shift smoothly to re-establishing an American manufacturing base, gradually phased in over time. Obviously an overnight tariff slap would be damaging....but phased in gradually, giving them time to close foreign operations and open factories here would be an acceptable compromise.

Which is another argument in raising the minimum wage to keep pace with cost of living and inflation......which means it should be 22.00 per hour....a long way from the measly 10.10 per hour now being proposed.

We should have mandated phase in of a rise in the minimum wage, incrementally over a period of a few years, getting to that 22.00 per hour.

A rising tide lifts all boats.

Since: Oct 08

Alpharetta, GA

#7486 Feb 10, 2014
check me on this Sandy, but if we put import tariffs on their stuff coming in, won't they retaliate and do the same on our stuff coming into their country?

Since: Oct 08

Alpharetta, GA

#7487 Feb 10, 2014
Does WM get those builders to build thos3 200-300,000 sq ft buildings for free?

Since: Jan 11

Hackettstown, NJ

#7488 Feb 10, 2014
Caribou Barbie wrote:
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No it doesn't.
Not when you're holding all the cards a the biggest consumer of imported goods......but of course, according to the corporate fascist right, we're suppose to bow to their wishes, no matter how damaging to our manufacturing base.
Nation building starts at HOME. Not when Haliburton uses taxpayer financing to build schools in Iraq and sewer systems in Afghanistan. Then moves to Dubai to avoid paying taxes.
As well, we need to nationalize many critical industries such as oil refining, banking, etc.
Herbert Hoover signed the Smoot-Hawley Tariff Act right after the stock market crash. The tariff act helped move us further into the great depression. The tariffs hurt the European market so bad they stopped buying American products which hurt us by decreasing our exports. I didn't think you would buy into a rethuglian idea.

Nationalize oil! Wow! That worked so well in the Soviet Union we had to modernize their oil market after the socialist system finally collapsed. They all do eventually. There was no incentive or capital to improve. It remained stagnant as most government systems do. Why aren't you after Apple? They're bigger than Exxon-Mobil and paid no taxes.

Since: Jan 11

Hackettstown, NJ

#7489 Feb 10, 2014
Caribou Barbie wrote:
<quoted text>
Wow, so much wrong there that needs unpacking.....
First of all, I would propose breaking up Walmart as a monopoly, which it is....it's been allowed for too long to destroy main street American businesses and get away with it. Using their massive, untaxed, surplus wealth to cajole, and in some cases, outright support and purchase local politicians in order to get necessary permits to open stores in demographics they desire. This happened locally, so I'm well aware of the tactics.
Many municipalities will offer free utility hookups, infrastructure improvements, roads, waivers, to the point it costs Walmart nothing to open a store. All in the promise of a couple of hundred low wage, no future jobs. And local retailers start closing, adding to the unemployment and vacancy rates.
Walmart also is the biggest user of public assitance.....as they encourage their employees to "take advantage" of public assistance when their pay falls short. Up to and including holding classes on how to fill out the federal paperwork.
As to tariffs, Republicans fail to use our massive leverage in buying power.....to force concessions from importers. Of course, I'm all for giving corporations the chance to make the shift smoothly to re-establishing an American manufacturing base, gradually phased in over time. Obviously an overnight tariff slap would be damaging....but phased in gradually, giving them time to close foreign operations and open factories here would be an acceptable compromise.
Which is another argument in raising the minimum wage to keep pace with cost of living and inflation......which means it should be 22.00 per hour....a long way from the measly 10.10 per hour now being proposed.
We should have mandated phase in of a rise in the minimum wage, incrementally over a period of a few years, getting to that 22.00 per hour.
A rising tide lifts all boats.
Walmart falls under a different tax structure than the small mom and pop stores that were once downtown. Many of the small stores fell into the personal income tax category if they weren't incorporated. If you raised the minimum wage, the small downtown stores are subject to the same laws. Walmart can absorb it, it does further damage to the small stores that can't compete as it is. End the tax loopholes.

“Hillary, thirty years of lying”

Since: Nov 08

Paris

#7490 Feb 10, 2014
Caribou Barbie wrote:
<quoted text>
No it doesn't.
Not when you're holding all the cards a the biggest consumer of imported goods......but of course, according to the corporate fascist right, we're suppose to bow to their wishes, no matter how damaging to our manufacturing base.
Nation building starts at HOME. Not when Haliburton uses taxpayer financing to build schools in Iraq and sewer systems in Afghanistan. Then moves to Dubai to avoid paying taxes.
As well, we need to nationalize many critical industries such as oil refining, banking, etc.
The Obama administration is launching a program with the ambitious goals of sparking business investment, reducing investment risks, and creating and sustaining new jobs.

However, the beneficiaries are Middle Eastern and North African nations, not workers in the United States

Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2013/12/surprise-plenty-of...
JBH

Richmond, Canada

#7491 Feb 10, 2014
Why does US obstruct global people's Olympics and make wrong issues all the time about Unneeded issues as security and gay subjects since US is in Afghanistan instead of Russia?

When each time the Olympics are held, the time interval may be too long as 4 years.

IOC needs to review the time interval, whether it can be reduced to 2 or 3 years.

As World Olympics are the international event, spots activities, competition events could not be arbitrarily hindered by bringing up unnecessary issue, such as gay matter coming just from the shallow west solely, so that IOC would demonstrate for what global people are looking for.

Sochi 2014 World Olympics have been presenting exactly what are needed in sports competition facilities, security, Olympic activities, spirits and shows, events competition, as those are what world masses are supposed to need.

As US boycotted Moscow Olympics because Russia was in Afghanistan, WHY IS THEN US still in Sochi Olympics instead of being boycotted, and not allowed at least to say about gay issue and other matters such as security, since US is still in Afghanistan for too long?

Since: Feb 11

Location hidden

#7492 Feb 10, 2014
Le Jimbo wrote:
<quoted text>Oh yeah, Odoodle is really focused on American jobs......
It's Congress's job to pass a jobs bill.

There's a reason why their approval rate is 13 percent.

Since: Feb 11

Location hidden

#7493 Feb 10, 2014
Teaman wrote:
<quoted text>
Walmart falls under a different tax structure than the small mom and pop stores that were once downtown. Many of the small stores fell into the personal income tax category if they weren't incorporated. If you raised the minimum wage, the small downtown stores are subject to the same laws. Walmart can absorb it, it does further damage to the small stores that can't compete as it is.
If you run a business that cannot pay the people that work for you enough to live above the poverty level, you should not be in business.

It's like you are saying that Jefferson couldn't afford to pay his slaves, so slavery was justified.

“bar0ckalypse n0w”

Since: Mar 10

Location hidden

#7494 Feb 10, 2014
Caribou Barbie wrote:
<quoted text>
No it doesn't.
Not when you're holding all the cards a the biggest consumer of imported goods......but of course, according to the corporate fascist right, we're suppose to bow to their wishes, no matter how damaging to our manufacturing base.
Nation building starts at HOME. Not when Haliburton uses taxpayer financing to build schools in Iraq and sewer systems in Afghanistan. Then moves to Dubai to avoid paying taxes.
As well, we need to nationalize many critical industries such as oil refining, banking, etc.
Yes, it does.

We are not holding all the cards, you idiot.

We have no manufacturing base thanks to liberal enviro-terrorists.

Nation-building actually helps exports in the long run. It's the self-interested reason we are in the UN.

Chavez nationalized oil in Venezuela and production dropped precipitously. the govt. runs nothing well. Look at 0failurecare.

“bar0ckalypse n0w”

Since: Mar 10

Location hidden

#7495 Feb 10, 2014
barefoot2626 wrote:
<quoted text>
It's Congress's job to pass a jobs bill.
There's a reason why their approval rate is 13 percent.
The House passes bills regularly.

The Senate doesn't even vote on them.

Since: Oct 08

Alpharetta, GA

#7496 Feb 10, 2014
barefoot2626 wrote:
<quoted text>
If you run a business that cannot pay the people that work for you enough to live above the poverty level, you should not be in business.
It's like you are saying that Jefferson couldn't afford to pay his slaves, so slavery was justified.
most small to medium biz owners know how to run their biz, but the govt, which consists mostly of red tape, paper pushing, civil service illiterates, just gets in the way with regs, rules, red tape and honky envy. they are told how to run their biz by the brilliant libs that have never run a biz. being in education, a union, or working for the govt means you have no clue how to work for a profit.
Gary

Bellingham, WA

#7497 Feb 10, 2014
mjjcpa wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes, it does.
We are not holding all the cards, you idiot.
We have no manufacturing base thanks to liberal enviro-terrorists.
Nation-building actually helps exports in the long run. It's the self-interested reason we are in the UN.
Chavez nationalized oil in Venezuela and production dropped precipitously. the govt. runs nothing well. Look at 0failurecare.
Obamacare is gaining ground every day and for a lot of people it
works like a charm. Like the self-employed couple who paid
$1800 per month in health care premiums, switched to the Affordable
Car Act and got coverage for less that $400 per month. Big winners!

Government runs nothing well?
Social Security has bee around for 80 years and is still going strong
and millions of Americans have had the benefit..

Since: Jan 11

Hackettstown, NJ

#7498 Feb 10, 2014
barefoot2626 wrote:
<quoted text>
If you run a business that cannot pay the people that work for you enough to live above the poverty level, you should not be in business.
It's like you are saying that Jefferson couldn't afford to pay his slaves, so slavery was justified.
Missed the point again. Raising the minimum wage hurts the little shop owner and actually helps the big boys do away with competition. Minimum wage should be done at a state level. The minimum wage here is probably big bucks in Mississippi. One size doesn't fit all.

Since: Jan 11

Hackettstown, NJ

#7499 Feb 10, 2014
Gary wrote:
<quoted text>
Obamacare is gaining ground every day and for a lot of people it
works like a charm. Like the self-employed couple who paid
$1800 per month in health care premiums, switched to the Affordable
Car Act and got coverage for less that $400 per month. Big winners!
Government runs nothing well?
Social Security has bee around for 80 years and is still going strong
and millions of Americans have had the benefit..
What are the deductibles?

“Hillary, thirty years of lying”

Since: Nov 08

Paris

#7500 Feb 10, 2014
barefoot2626 wrote:
<quoted text>
It's Congress's job to pass a jobs bill.
There's a reason why their approval rate is 13 percent.
We have, tell Harry to quit setting on them.

“Hillary, thirty years of lying”

Since: Nov 08

Paris

#7501 Feb 10, 2014
Gary wrote:
<quoted text>
Obamacare is gaining ground every day and for a lot of people it
works like a charm. Like the self-employed couple who paid
$1800 per month in health care premiums, switched to the Affordable
Car Act and got coverage for less that $400 per month. Big winners!
Government runs nothing well?
Social Security has bee around for 80 years and is still going strong
and millions of Americans have had the benefit..
Obama plan: Temp jobs at $1 million each
Global health-care initiatives continue expensive expansion

Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2014/02/obama-plan-temp-jo...

“Hillary, thirty years of lying”

Since: Nov 08

Paris

#7502 Feb 10, 2014
barefoot2626 wrote:
<quoted text>
If you run a business that cannot pay the people that work for you enough to live above the poverty level, you should not be in business.
It's like you are saying that Jefferson couldn't afford to pay his slaves, so slavery was justified.
If you can't live on the wage a business pays, don't go to work for them. duuuuuuuh

“bar0ckalypse n0w”

Since: Mar 10

Location hidden

#7503 Feb 10, 2014
Gary wrote:
<quoted text>
Obamacare is gaining ground every day and for a lot of people it
works like a charm. Like the self-employed couple who paid
$1800 per month in health care premiums, switched to the Affordable
Car Act and got coverage for less that $400 per month. Big winners!
Government runs nothing well?
Social Security has bee around for 80 years and is still going strong
and millions of Americans have had the benefit..
0failurecare is closer to repeal everyday. It works like the largest job killing, middle class tax increase in American history and it's not fully implemented yet..

Social Security is bankrupt. Bush tried to fix it but harry pelosi lied about privatizing it.

“bar0ckalypse n0w”

Since: Mar 10

Location hidden

#7504 Feb 10, 2014
barefoot2626 wrote:
<quoted text>
If you run a business that cannot pay the people that work for you enough to live above the poverty level, you should not be in business.
It's like you are saying that Jefferson couldn't afford to pay his slaves, so slavery was justified.
Jefferson is my favorite hypocritical liberal.

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