Why They Hate Obama

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Since: Jan 11

Hackettstown, NJ

#5927 Jan 15, 2014
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>so you think people like you should determine what people make? not any good way for you to get out of this, teaman...either you think we should determine people's income by committee or by people like you or it is determined by the market...which is it?
i know what a real TEA person would say.
You know it's free market.:-)

I don't think I, or government, or anyone should determine what people make.

The point was the government is determining, or limiting, what a doctor should be paid.

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#5928 Jan 15, 2014
Teaman wrote:
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You know it's free market.:-)
I don't think I, or government, or anyone should determine what people make.
The point was the government is determining, or limiting, what a doctor should be paid.
really? how so?

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#5929 Jan 15, 2014
or was it more like ht gov't was setting a price for what they would, and should pay...

we, as consumers do that all the time,. again that is called the free market...

why do you hate capitalism so?

Since: Jan 11

Hackettstown, NJ

#5930 Jan 15, 2014
woodtick57 wrote:
or was it more like ht gov't was setting a price for what they would, and should pay...
we, as consumers do that all the time,. again that is called the free market...
why do you hate capitalism so?
It isn't a free market when the government sets the price. It is somewhat when a contract bid is involved.

The government has set a price at below market value. What is happening here is there are a lot of doctors not accepting any new Medicaid or Medicare patients. Actually, Medicaid patients are treated like charity cases.

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#5931 Jan 15, 2014
Teaman wrote:
<quoted text>
It isn't a free market when the government sets the price. It is somewhat when a contract bid is involved.
The government has set a price at below market value. What is happening here is there are a lot of doctors not accepting any new Medicaid or Medicare patients. Actually, Medicaid patients are treated like charity cases.
how is the gov't setting the price they will pay when they are the payee different from an insurance company doing the same thing?

seems you aren't a fan of the free market after all....

what will you call yourself now that Teaman is clearly not appropriate...

seems this is the whole problem with the whole TEA movement....
drunking ducky

Nha Trang, Vietnam

#5932 Jan 15, 2014
Teaman wrote:
<quoted text>
You know it's free market.:-)
I don't think I, or government, or anyone should determine what people make.
The point was the government is determining, or limiting, what a doctor should be paid.
;-000h, wanna Dr. Thanh Ho?!! ;-00

Since: Jan 11

Hackettstown, NJ

#5933 Jan 15, 2014
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>how is the gov't setting the price they will pay when they are the payee different from an insurance company doing the same thing?
seems you aren't a fan of the free market after all....
what will you call yourself now that Teaman is clearly not appropriate...
seems this is the whole problem with the whole TEA movement....
You a veddy, veddy funny man.

I believe insurance companies negotiate prices. The government set a price. They,(insurance companies) didn't have the power to force someone to buy their product until recently and have their prices set. I guess that's capitalism, eh?

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#5935 Jan 15, 2014
Teaman wrote:
<quoted text>
You a veddy, veddy funny man.
I believe insurance companies negotiate prices. The government set a price. They,(insurance companies) didn't have the power to force someone to buy their product until recently and have their prices set. I guess that's capitalism, eh?
you seem to be drawing a very fine line between the two who would the doctors get their business from is the insurance companies decided they weren't going to pay that price? seems they get to enforce their price also...

you just were told that one was worse than the other you you agreed to it without thinking...

now, that you seem to at least have one or two synapses firing...which of the two entitiies are making a profit off you ?

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#5936 Jan 15, 2014
shall i call you coffee man from now on? you know i will...

Since: Jan 11

Hackettstown, NJ

#5937 Jan 15, 2014
woodtick57 wrote:
shall i call you coffee man from now on? you know i will...
No, negotiating is different from forcibly set.
Eric Gustafson

Virginia Beach, VA

#5939 Jan 16, 2014
Frank wrote:
<quoted text>Obama announced the other day that he would use executive privilege to cause more havoc on our country. His policies put into executive orders will put addition millions of people out of work.
Unlike the Republicans Congress policies during the period from 2001 to 2009 that George Bush signed into law which did push Millions of Americans out of their jobs. 10 Million going to China, Mexico and Vietnam.
Eric Gustafson

Virginia Beach, VA

#5940 Jan 16, 2014
Teaman wrote:
<quoted text>
It isn't a free market when the government sets the price. It is somewhat when a contract bid is involved.
The government has set a price at below market value. What is happening here is there are a lot of doctors not accepting any new Medicaid or Medicare patients. Actually, Medicaid patients are treated like charity cases.
Horse manure, Government reimbursement has always lagged behind private insurers. physicians aren't forced into accepting medicare or medicaid patients as you put in your post. Hospitals accept both because Hospitals receive those additional funding grants for research and treating the non-insured.

You can always elect as a physician to practice plastic surgery and other procedures which aren't covered by either the government programs or private insurers. Physicians aren't accepting new patients in rural areas where physicians are scarce as are medical facilities and new younger physicians aren't making a decision to live like Dorthy going to see the wizard.

Medicaid is a charity program for the working poor and indigent citizens in America.
Eric Gustafson

Virginia Beach, VA

#5941 Jan 16, 2014
Teaman wrote:
<quoted text>
No, negotiating is different from forcibly set.
no physician of facility is forced to treat medicaid patients, all he/they have to do is not sign the agreement for Government insurance. It is a free market.......
Eric Gustafson

Virginia Beach, VA

#5942 Jan 16, 2014
Teaman wrote:
<quoted text>
You a veddy, veddy funny man.
I believe insurance companies negotiate prices. The government set a price. They,(insurance companies) didn't have the power to force someone to buy their product until recently and have their prices set. I guess that's capitalism, eh?
You believe wrong, Insures such as Blue Cross dictates their reimbursement rates, if a facility or physician chooses not to accept BC reimbursement rates then that physician looses access to Blue Cross subscribers. Blue Cross has near 100 Million subscribers coast to coast in the United States.

Smaller insurers serving in the markets where Blue Cross is active have no choice but to accept the reimbursement rates the larger insurers set in the area and region.
Eric Gustafson

Virginia Beach, VA

#5943 Jan 16, 2014
Teaman wrote:
<quoted text>
You know it's free market.:-)
I don't think I, or government, or anyone should determine what people make.
The point was the government is determining, or limiting, what a doctor should be paid.
If you don't like the contract don't sign the agreement, it's not just with physicians, All Federal Contractors at a point have to agree on compensation, and an agreement addendum to provide prevailing wages to their employees on that job.

How else is is possible to have a framework determined for a request for a proposal in soliciting and applying for Federal Contracts?

“Hillary, thirty years of lying”

Since: Nov 08

Paris

#5944 Jan 16, 2014
barefoot2626 wrote:
<quoted text>
You lie when you blink.
If I want to know what Obama said, I'll pick up the paper where they get all the words right.
Obama to Dems: I'll act with or without Congress........Yawn, what's new.

“Hillary, thirty years of lying”

Since: Nov 08

Paris

#5945 Jan 16, 2014
Eric Gustafson wrote:
<quoted text>
Unlike the Republicans Congress policies during the period from 2001 to 2009 that George Bush signed into law which did push Millions of Americans out of their jobs. 10 Million going to China, Mexico and Vietnam.
Well, well, well, let's see your list pookie..........didn't think so. Still shooting off your mouth with more lies. Are you really named Barry?
conservative crapola

“Hicksville Hootenanny”

Since: Sep 13

Kornfield Kounty

#5946 Jan 16, 2014
Le Jimbo wrote:
<quoted text>
Nothing about it is new:

George W. Bush invoked executive privilege six times:
1. Block Congress from documents regarding Boston mob informants and Bill Clinton’s fundraising tactics
2. Conceal who was at Vice President Dick Cheney’s 2001 energy-policy meetings
3. Block Harriet Miers’s subpoena to Karl Rove regarding federal prosecutor firings
4. Conceal from Congress Cheney’s FBI interview about Valerie Plame’s outing
5. Block subpoenas of EPA documents about California’s reducing greenhouse gases and overriding scientific recommendations on ozone standards
6. Hinder the investigation of harsh interrogation tactics.

...but all of a sudden, teahadist is upset about it. LMAO.
cancer suxs

Faribault, MN

#5947 Jan 16, 2014
The religious far righter Nazi types hate Obama because his skin darker and his name is funny to them.

Oh and Obama also has tried to help the common people and rebuild the rights GOD Bushies mess and the far right hates that

Since: Jan 09

Central NJ

#5948 Jan 16, 2014
I hate to disagree with you, But Banking regs allow them to charge fees for everything. Not to mention inflated closing costs. Before long they'll charge you to walk in the door. It's through these excessive fees that they are gouging the public.
My president was elected by dead people!
Regards, Terri
dont snow me wrote:
<quoted text>
Rubbish, we're being swindled for bank profits and you refuse to admit it. Who's getting loans and for what? If I want to expand my business, I'll do it with the profits I've put away.
Where's the jobs?

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