Why They Hate Obama

Aug 8, 2013 Full story: The Daily Beast 12,051

As the Virginia Flaggers loft their Confederate flag in opposition to the 'tyranny' of 2013, Jamelle Bouie argues that racial bias plays at least some part in Obama's collapse in the South.

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Eric Gustafson

Newport News, VA

#3505 Dec 15, 2013
Cat74 wrote:
The Civil War was fought because we had an overbearing Federal Government trying to force their people into giving up States Rights. slavery was only one of them. It seems we are in the same situation about now. Time to lock, and load.
That not true. Mississippi and South Carolina were the first two states to file declarations of succession in 1860 and each did so listing their primary cause as that of Slavery. Their intent was to continue the practice despite what congress felt. The other reason was because of tariffs congress placed on imports from England to protect American manufacturers located in the northern industrial districts. Southern planters intended to band together to nullify Congress actions in placing tariffs on imported goods

The Declaration of Succession are available online at each of the State's archives for review by anyone that has an interest.

Combat operations didn't start until April 11, 1861, Beauregard ordered the barrage on Fort Sumter.

Every attempt to obstruct and nullify congressional legislation today has been tried by the southern region of States in the united states before in our history. The southern region has long carried the resentment from having been beaten into submission and forced into recognizing and respecting human rights and the letter of the U.S Constitution.

Since: Jan 11

Bordentown, NJ

#3506 Dec 15, 2013
Eric Gustafson wrote:
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Then who and what were the Quakers from Pennsylvania and New Jersey?
Ol' Barefoot was blaming slavery on Christians. There were Christians on both sides of the issue. He could have said southerners, but had to bring Christianity into it.
Eric Gustafson

Newport News, VA

#3507 Dec 15, 2013
Having access to health care was not a matter of being responsible or not, it was a matter of the individual insurance companies discriminating against citizen consumers. Another factor was the prohibitive cost associated with individual policies in the market place. The median income in America is $26,000 making the purchase of Health Care insurance inaccessible when a comprehensive plan cost upwards of $500 per month or $2200 a month for a family of 4.

Because you may have had insurance through you employer is not a fact of you being responsible. Most individuals who currently are uninsured are so because of the great job shredding of 2007, 2008 and 2009. That's not irresponsibility, that's circumstance and chance.
xxxrayted wrote:
<quoted text>
Those that lost were the responsible of our society that made sure they had healthcare coverage. Now they are either facing loss of their policies or policies that drastically increased in rates that are unaffordable.
The irresponsible are the people that made out, just like anytime a liberal or Socialist is in power.
When penalize responsibility and reward irresponsibility, don't be surprised when you have more irresponsible people.

Since: Jan 11

Bordentown, NJ

#3508 Dec 15, 2013
Eric Gustafson wrote:
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The option of Congress doing nothing was to continue to allow American Families to face being shut out of purchasing Health Care insurance and facing financial ruin and bankruptcy from medical procedures.
Of course those of you on the losing end of the election after supporting faulty candidates who were found to be out of touch with American citizens find those solutions unacceptable.
Still Lords and serfs, none the less. If it was really about health care, a simple expansion of Medicaid would have been sufficient. Or, even combining Medicaid with Medicare into a single plan to reduce delivery costs.
Eric Gustafson

Newport News, VA

#3509 Dec 15, 2013
Teaman wrote:
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Ol' Barefoot was blaming slavery on Christians. There were Christians on both sides of the issue. He could have said southerners, but had to bring Christianity into it.
Where the monarchy shares power of the government with the Church slavery was disallowed at the turn of the 19th Century, some much earlier. Spain disallowed slavery to be inline with the pope's teachings. the French also, Great Britain held tight until approx 1808. In North America, Frances territories along with Spain's were free lands, The Southern states in America were dependent on slavery for their economic survival. The Economy in the South depended on planters profits. The bulk of the capital in America was in the north in the industrial centers. Slavery offered the southerners what little economic vitality they had and of course money trumps Christianity and morals.
Eric Gustafson

Newport News, VA

#3510 Dec 15, 2013
Teaman wrote:
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Still Lords and serfs, none the less. If it was really about health care, a simple expansion of Medicaid would have been sufficient. Or, even combining Medicaid with Medicare into a single plan to reduce delivery costs.
Lords aren't elected by the population they represent they are appointed by the King. Serfs have not rights, especially any rights to a voice in politics or government. This was a simple expansion of medicaid for those earning below a certain income, and for those doing better a tax in the form of a mandate to pay their own freight for health care. Medicare is a program that recipients have to qualify for based on their contributions over the course of their working life and it's not free there are premiums paid for medicare.

medicaid is a free services for he poor and indigent they're not the same or function alike in any manner.

“Amor patriae.”

Since: Feb 08

Eastern Oregon

#3511 Dec 15, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
<quoted text>
So?
When did the war start, masterbaiter?
The Emancipation Proclamation "freed" only the slaves in the South.
And since in 1863 the North did not control the South... it was not much more than a political gesture.
Get your head out of my pants, a**hole.
angel

Boise, ID

#3513 Dec 16, 2013
dont snow me wrote:
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I despise Oblamer because he's a lying sack of shit failure. Where's them jobs? Where's the $85 billion a month going?
Oh now dont hide your light under a basket,you despise him because you are racist, ignorant ,Koch- brainwashed hypocrite,narcistic,plutocrat- finger licker piece of shit.
Pretty much like the rest of your teabagging buddies in this forum.
Dont be so modest!
Brad

Marlborough, CT

#3514 Dec 16, 2013
angel wrote:
<quoted text>Oh now dont hide your light under a basket,you despise him because you are racist, ignorant ,Koch- brainwashed hypocrite,narcistic,plutocrat- finger licker piece of shit.
Pretty much like the rest of your teabagging buddies in this forum.
Dont be so modest!
Yeah,,,,no.

The fact that hes a lying and incompetent buffoon is the source of the disdain.

The fact that hes black is just an unintended bonus.
xxxrayted

Cleveland, OH

#3516 Dec 16, 2013
angel wrote:
<quoted text>Oh now dont hide your light under a basket,you despise him because you are racist, ignorant ,Koch- brainwashed hypocrite,narcistic,plutocrat- finger licker piece of shit.
Pretty much like the rest of your teabagging buddies in this forum.
Dont be so modest!
White House ignores 'lie of the year' award
THE OVAL
David Jackson, USA TODAY 2:59 p.m. EST December 13, 2013

The White House is not rushing to claim President Obama's latest award: Lie of the year.

White House spokesman Jay Carney said Friday the administration is focused on putting its health care plan in place; he declined to discuss the declaration by the fact-checking website PolitiFact of its annual "lie of the year:" President Obama's past claim that if "if you like your health care plan, you can keep it."

Obama has apologized to Americans who lost their policies because of new federal regulations.

Carney did note that PolitiFact has in the past defended Obama's statement about existing insurance policies, before declaring it "lie of the year" over developments in recent months.

"End-of-the-year categorizations like that are always fun even when they don't jibe with past characterizations of the very same statement," Carney said. "But we're focused on implementation of the Affordable Care Act."

He added: "We have owned and acknowledged where that rollout this fall has not been up to the standards that we expected and where there have been problems."

In its analysis of Obama's "catchy" statement -- "if you like your health care plan, you can keep it" -- PolitiFact reported that the promise was impossible to keep:

http://www.usatoday.com/story/theoval/2013/12...
angel

Boise, ID

#3517 Dec 16, 2013
Brad wrote:
<quoted text>
Yeah,,,,no.
The fact that hes a lying and incompetent buffoon is the source of the disdain.
The fact that hes black is just an unintended bonus.
How much disdain to sniveling teabagging hipocrites rate?
Must have missed their solution to medical costs gobbling up a ever growing out of proportion chunk of the GNP.
Oh thats right.
They didnt have one.
Too busy fighting to save Tax Breaks for the ubber weathy.
LMAO!

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#3518 Dec 16, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
<quoted text>
Southern Baptist opposed slavery?
Southerners not Christians?
Southern Freed Blacks favored Slavery Idiot.

Black history they don't want you to know

http://dailykenn.blogspot.com/2012/05/2-how-m...

Since: Nov 08

Paris

#3519 Dec 16, 2013
angel wrote:
<quoted text>Oh now dont hide your light under a basket,you despise him because you are racist, ignorant ,Koch- brainwashed hypocrite,narcistic,plutocrat- finger licker piece of shit.
Pretty much like the rest of your teabagging buddies in this forum.
Dont be so modest!
Do you have a recorder on your phone. Read you post back and listen. You will also swear its an ill advised twelve year old ranting about things they know nothing about.

“gun control takes two hands”

Since: Mar 13

outdoors

#3520 Dec 16, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
<quoted text>
Romney was the best the Republicans had.
And beat the tea baggers who were on the ticket handily.
Wipe your chin, dear.
Soooooo, thoughts of Romney trigger your homosexual fantasies...

Since: Oct 12

Location hidden

#3521 Dec 16, 2013
mdbuilder wrote:
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WHAT?? Way up from what, the lowest it's been in thirty years? Obama's economic policies absolutely sunk a struggling housing industry. Instead of 100 feet under water, it's now 99 feet under, and you call it "way up"? Obama has retarded our economy so damn far, a 2 1/2% economic growth sounds like a booming economy. It's not. This is an affirmative action economy.
JOB OPENINGS REACH A FIVE-YEAR HIGH.......So are resignations which also point to a healthier job market....AP(12-11-13)......

“Amor patriae.”

Since: Feb 08

Eastern Oregon

#3522 Dec 16, 2013
Go Blue Forever wrote:
<quoted text> JOB OPENINGS REACH A FIVE-YEAR HIGH.......So are resignations which also point to a healthier job market....AP(12-11-13)......
Boy, there's nothing like a good job "opening". Obama's PAYING people to stay home. Who needs to work?
Get your O-policy yet?
serfs up

Ormond Beach, FL

#3523 Dec 16, 2013
angel wrote:
<quoted text>How much disdain to sniveling teabagging hipocrites rate?
Must have missed their solution to medical costs gobbling up a ever growing out of proportion chunk of the GNP.
Oh thats right.
They didnt have one.
Too busy fighting to save Tax Breaks for the ubber weathy.
LMAO!
Talking about progressives and hypocrasy, I am still waiting for tax cuts and tax rebates for the working class. Where are they? You promote yourself for the lower classes. You don't. You are pure special interest. And it involves people in the lower classes and the upper ones. Otherwise we would have seen what you spout come true for all of the proletariat. So a 15% tax cut and say a thousand dollar rebate for the working classes to start will be a great beginning to put your money where your mouth is. You can't. To much money has to go to special interests, the corruption that is with it, and massive irresponsible living.

Since: Oct 12

Location hidden

#3524 Dec 16, 2013
BIG PURCHASES LIFT HOPES FOR ECONOMY....Consumers bought more cars, electronics and furniture in November.....AP(12-13-13).....

Since: Oct 12

Location hidden

#3525 Dec 16, 2013
mdbuilder wrote:
<quoted text>
Boy, there's nothing like a good job "opening". Obama's PAYING people to stay home. Who needs to work?
Get your O-policy yet?
Health insurance done...website work's fine...Sorry for you, that Hillary cannot start early......

Since: Jan 11

Bordentown, NJ

#3526 Dec 16, 2013
Eric Gustafson wrote:
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Lords aren't elected by the population they represent they are appointed by the King. Serfs have not rights, especially any rights to a voice in politics or government. This was a simple expansion of medicaid for those earning below a certain income, and for those doing better a tax in the form of a mandate to pay their own freight for health care. Medicare is a program that recipients have to qualify for based on their contributions over the course of their working life and it's not free there are premiums paid for medicare.
medicaid is a free services for he poor and indigent they're not the same or function alike in any manner.
What's the difference whether they're appointed or elected if they both have the power to impose their will on the public or intrude into one's personal life?

I know the difference between the two programs. Nothing says the programs have to be separate because to funds come from two different places financing a single delivery system. It's just a hypothetical suggestion. It might not be feasible. When states are left to their own devices with block grants, who knows what innovations can occur. Federal plans, even though administered by the states, always remain stagnant, archaic, lacking innovation, and expensive/ wasteful. The feds never think out of the box.

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