Why They Hate Obama

There are 12509 comments on the The Daily Beast story from Aug 8, 2013, titled Why They Hate Obama. In it, The Daily Beast reports that:

As the Virginia Flaggers loft their Confederate flag in opposition to the 'tyranny' of 2013, Jamelle Bouie argues that racial bias plays at least some part in Obama's collapse in the South.

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drinK the Hive

South Ozone Park, NY

#2229 Nov 23, 2013
Eric Gustafson

Virginia Beach, VA

#2230 Nov 23, 2013
Cat74 wrote:
My relatives were with the founders, and they hated lazy do nothing people. Of course in those days they had to get out of bed and beg for their goods. Now we treat them like Royalty giving them everything everyone else has even though the rest of us have to work for it. Enjoy your vacation while you can it won't last forever.
Isn't Illinois named after the tribe of Native Americans? Illinois and none of the lands west of the Appalachian Mountains were British colonies. Most of the Lands west of the Appalachian was not populated until after the founding of the Country, that region was settled by the French.

You're lying, most of the settlers who ventured west into the mid west were Germans who came after William Penn has settled and negotiated Pennsylvania with the natives occupying those lands.

You're people wasn't involved with the founders of the nation, those lands didn't come into the possession of America until after the Louisiana Purchase.

Back to the 2nd grade with you........

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#2231 Nov 23, 2013
Eric Gustafson wrote:
<quoted text>
Job growth has been positive since Obama came into office, a total reversal from the historic job loss under George Bush and Republican policies from 2001 to 2008, or have you forgotten or just ignoring the 600,000 jobs being loss by Americans under the Bush regime in 2008? You're going to have to find a new narrative to be considered remotely credible.
The Clinic is laying off 3000 because the Ohio Governor refused to expand Medicaid and by passed the additional federal funds associated with the expansion. Thus, Cleveland and other Hospitals across Ohio are strapped from treating citizens in Ohio that can't pay for those services.
Every state that refused to expand medicaid is in the same position.
Indiana Sues Over ObamaCare As 60 Firms Cut Hours

By JED GRAHAM, INVESTOR'S BUSINESS DAILY

10/10/2013

http://news.investors.com/politics-obamacare/...
Andbuthenotherst uff

Howell, MI

#2233 Nov 23, 2013
They come up and terrorize people whom probably already terrorize one another and get they azz kicked..

Since: Jan 11

Abingdon, VA

#2234 Nov 23, 2013
Eric Gustafson wrote:
<quoted text>
Job growth has been positive since Obama came into office, a total reversal from the historic job loss under George Bush and Republican policies from 2001 to 2008, or have you forgotten or just ignoring the 600,000 jobs being loss by Americans under the Bush regime in 2008? You're going to have to find a new narrative to be considered remotely credible.
The Clinic is laying off 3000 because the Ohio Governor refused to expand Medicaid and by passed the additional federal funds associated with the expansion. Thus, Cleveland and other Hospitals across Ohio are strapped from treating citizens in Ohio that can't pay for those services.
Every state that refused to expand medicaid is in the same position.
"The Clinic is laying off 3000 because the Ohio Governor refused to expand Medicaid and by passed the additional federal funds associated with the expansion."

That's not what the Mayo Clinic says. The Arizona Mayo Clinic cut Medicare and Medicaid due to the low government reimbursement rate. The layoffs were due to the additional healthcare costs of their employees due to the ACA.

http://news.heartland.org/newspaper-article/m...

I don't think Medicaid expansion has much to do with it because the government reimburses Medicaid costs well below market value.
Cat74

Naperville, IL

#2235 Nov 23, 2013
What do you call job growth? First of all you can't really believe Obama's unemployment numbers, but even if you could the unemployment rate is over 7% that is not growth. That is less then one percentage point in 5 years of Democrat creativity.
VN Vet

Richmond, VA

#2236 Nov 23, 2013
Liberals lie, and liars are liberal. Obama has lied so often, that his nose has grown from D.C. to China. He is so full of crap, his eyes have turned brown. He makes Nixon look like an angel. Obama will go down as the worst POS ever in the White House. You losers who worship him, will suffer forever for your stupidity.
Cat74

Naperville, IL

#2237 Nov 23, 2013
Senator Franken, remember him from Saturday Night Live? He is up for reelection next November, and he is advocating expending the Obamacare sign up until November 2014. That is so blatantly political. These Democrats have no shame. I must say I am enjoying their confusion, and hope they know no one is surprised at their Political scheme. The sign up extention is from 3 weeks before the midterm election to 2 weeks after.
Cat74

Naperville, IL

#2238 Nov 23, 2013
Oops" The word is extension, not Extention. Sorry

“Hillary, thirty years of lying”

Since: Nov 08

Paris

#2239 Nov 24, 2013
Mykro wrote:
<quoted text>Your pet rock is stuck up your ass right behind your dumbass head. DUMBOSPAMBOT BIRTHER NUT.
Mommy be home soon pookie. I can't see how you set in that messy diaper for hours.

“Hillary, thirty years of lying”

Since: Nov 08

Paris

#2240 Nov 24, 2013
Anonymous of Indy wrote:
<quoted text>Indiana Sues Over ObamaCare As 60 Firms Cut Hours
By JED GRAHAM, INVESTOR'S BUSINESS DAILY
10/10/2013
http://news.investors.com/politics-obamacare/...
States rejecting Obama's 'fix' shows plan will have little impact on improving ObamaCare

Connecticut is the most recent state to reject President Obama’s plan to “fix” his signature health-care law after millions of Americas received policy cancellation notices -- a trend that suggest...
xxxrayted

Brook Park, OH

#2241 Nov 24, 2013
Cat74 wrote:
What do you call job growth? First of all you can't really believe Obama's unemployment numbers, but even if you could the unemployment rate is over 7% that is not growth. That is less then one percentage point in 5 years of Democrat creativity.
It doesn't matter what the unemployment rate is, DumBama has done nothing to improve those numbers. If anything, Commie Care is stunting financial growth. The Democrats have told us Commie Care is the law of the land. Maybe they should have told DumBama because he sure doesn't seem to know. He's trying to change this "law of the land" every week.
xxxrayted

Brook Park, OH

#2242 Nov 24, 2013
Eric Gustafson wrote:
<quoted text>
Job growth has been positive since Obama came into office, a total reversal from the historic job loss under George Bush and Republican policies from 2001 to 2008, or have you forgotten or just ignoring the 600,000 jobs being loss by Americans under the Bush regime in 2008? You're going to have to find a new narrative to be considered remotely credible.
The Clinic is laying off 3000 because the Ohio Governor refused to expand Medicaid and by passed the additional federal funds associated with the expansion. Thus, Cleveland and other Hospitals across Ohio are strapped from treating citizens in Ohio that can't pay for those services.
Every state that refused to expand medicaid is in the same position.
WTF are you talking about? Kasich did go along with the expansion. He took a lot of heat for doing so by fellow Republicans.

Regardless, the CEO of Cleveland Clinic said the exact reason for the layoffs was Commie Care. And trust me, this guy is no GOP'r. He's a control freak Nazi who likely sides with liberal policy.

Most of the Bush years were good years financially. How many good years have we had with the empty suit? Zero. How about good months or weeks? Zero.

The household median income is lower than it was when DumBama took office. Most of the jobs created are part-time jobs if that.

And let's not forget the reason for a terrible second term ending for Bush: the housing crash. If not for the housing crash, we may have enjoyed a good economy right up to Bush's last day. The housing bubble and crash had a lot of Democrat fingerprints on it so you can't lay that on Bush. It was the Republicans who tried to stop it before it happened.

Since: Jan 11

Hackettstown, NJ

#2243 Nov 24, 2013
xxxrayted wrote:
<quoted text>
WTF are you talking about? Kasich did go along with the expansion. He took a lot of heat for doing so by fellow Republicans.
Regardless, the CEO of Cleveland Clinic said the exact reason for the layoffs was Commie Care. And trust me, this guy is no GOP'r. He's a control freak Nazi who likely sides with liberal policy.
Most of the Bush years were good years financially. How many good years have we had with the empty suit? Zero. How about good months or weeks? Zero.
The household median income is lower than it was when DumBama took office. Most of the jobs created are part-time jobs if that.
And let's not forget the reason for a terrible second term ending for Bush: the housing crash. If not for the housing crash, we may have enjoyed a good economy right up to Bush's last day. The housing bubble and crash had a lot of Democrat fingerprints on it so you can't lay that on Bush. It was the Republicans who tried to stop it before it happened.
That's true. Attempts by Bush to reform Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac were ignored. Chris Dodd, who was receiving sweet heart deals from Countrywide mortgage, even threatened to filibuster any legislation to reform the two GSEs.

http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/ne...

Since: Apr 09

Elmont, Long Island NY

#2244 Nov 24, 2013
Teaman wrote:
<quoted text>
That's true. Attempts by Bush to reform Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac were ignored. Chris Dodd, who was receiving sweet heart deals from Countrywide mortgage, even threatened to filibuster any legislation to reform the two GSEs.
http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/ne...
so in effect, you are saying the President Bush, with Republicans controlling both houses of congress was unable to push through legislation to reform Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac and that such reform would have prevented the housing bubble burst.

do I have that right?

sounds like Bush was impotent to me.

BTW, Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac did not cause the housing crisis

Subprime lending surged from 2004 to 2006 during the height of the housing bubble. According to Kimberly Amadeo in an article titled "Did Freddie and Fannie Cause the Housing Crisis":

"Between 2004 and 2006, when subprime lending was exploding, Fannie and Freddie went from holding a high of 48 percent of the subprime loans that were sold into the secondary market to holding about 24 percent, according to data from Inside Mortgage Finance, a specialty publication. Even so, by 2007 only 17 percent of their total portfolio was either either subprime or Alt-A loans. Due to regulations, their percentage of these loans are actually better than many banks."

As David Goldstein and Kevin G. Hall write in the McClatchy Newspapers:

"During those same explosive three years, private investment banks -- not Fannie and Freddie -- dominated the mortgage loans that were packaged and sold into the secondary mortgage market. In 2005 and 2006, the private sector securitized almost two thirds of all U.S. mortgages, supplanting Fannie and Freddie, according to a number of specialty publications that track this data."

According to David M. Abromowitz and David Min writing for the Center of American Progress:

"If the conservative view was correct, one would expect to see mortgages originated for Fannie and Freddie securitization, as well as those originated for purposes of CRA, to default at higher rates, since these were the loans directly subject to affordable housing policies. In fact, we see quite the opposite, as these loans have performed exponentially better than those originated for private securitization, which the FCIC Republicans ignore."

It was the greed of Privately owned banks, the reward system of bonuses to mortgage providers, the banks absolving themselves of responsibility for bad loans by bundling those loans and selling them mortgage backed securities, and then
KNOWING FULL WELL THOSE SECURITIES WOULD FAIL TAKING OUT INSURANCE ON THEM IF THEY DID, EVEN THOUGH THEY NO LONGER HAD A STAKE IN THEM

Want to blame someone, look at Wall Street, investment bankers and money market managers. There are probably both republicans and democrats in those groups, but I'll bet its predominately republicans

Since: Jan 11

Hackettstown, NJ

#2245 Nov 24, 2013
Karma is a_______ wrote:
<quoted text>
so in effect, you are saying the President Bush, with Republicans controlling both houses of congress was unable to push through legislation to reform Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac and that such reform would have prevented the housing bubble burst.
do I have that right?
sounds like Bush was impotent to me.
BTW, Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac did not cause the housing crisis
Subprime lending surged from 2004 to 2006 during the height of the housing bubble. According to Kimberly Amadeo in an article titled "Did Freddie and Fannie Cause the Housing Crisis":
"Between 2004 and 2006, when subprime lending was exploding, Fannie and Freddie went from holding a high of 48 percent of the subprime loans that were sold into the secondary market to holding about 24 percent, according to data from Inside Mortgage Finance, a specialty publication. Even so, by 2007 only 17 percent of their total portfolio was either either subprime or Alt-A loans. Due to regulations, their percentage of these loans are actually better than many banks."
As David Goldstein and Kevin G. Hall write in the McClatchy Newspapers:
"During those same explosive three years, private investment banks -- not Fannie and Freddie -- dominated the mortgage loans that were packaged and sold into the secondary mortgage market. In 2005 and 2006, the private sector securitized almost two thirds of all U.S. mortgages, supplanting Fannie and Freddie, according to a number of specialty publications that track this data."
According to David M. Abromowitz and David Min writing for the Center of American Progress:
"If the conservative view was correct, one would expect to see mortgages originated for Fannie and Freddie securitization, as well as those originated for purposes of CRA, to default at higher rates, since these were the loans directly subject to affordable housing policies. In fact, we see quite the opposite, as these loans have performed exponentially better than those originated for private securitization, which the FCIC Republicans ignore."
It was the greed of Privately owned banks, the reward system of bonuses to mortgage providers, the banks absolving themselves of responsibility for bad loans by bundling those loans and selling them mortgage backed securities, and then
KNOWING FULL WELL THOSE SECURITIES WOULD FAIL TAKING OUT INSURANCE ON THEM IF THEY DID, EVEN THOUGH THEY NO LONGER HAD A STAKE IN THEM
Want to blame someone, look at Wall Street, investment bankers and money market managers. There are probably both republicans and democrats in those groups, but I'll bet its predominately republicans
The point was Bush was being blamed for the housing crash when in fact there was a lot of blame to go around, both parties, greedy lenders like Countrywide, the federal reserve feeding the bubble, and, yes, ultimately Wall St. that dumped these mortgages into the markets knowing they were bad. Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac bought these mortgages and sold them to Wall St. A single person, with no legislative power, can't be blamed.

Republicans had a majority in congress, not a control. Chris Dodd threatened a filibuster against any effort to reform the two congressional chartered mortgage institutions. I'm pretty sure the republicans wanted to go nuclear then, but didn't.

“Hillary, thirty years of lying”

Since: Nov 08

Paris

#2246 Nov 24, 2013
Karma is a_______ wrote:
<quoted text>
so in effect, you are saying the President Bush, with Republicans controlling both houses of congress was unable to push through legislation to reform Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac and that such reform would have prevented the housing bubble burst.
do I have that right?
sounds like Bush was impotent to me.
BTW, Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac did not cause the housing crisis
Subprime lending surged from 2004 to 2006 during the height of the housing bubble. According to Kimberly Amadeo in an article titled "Did Freddie and Fannie Cause the Housing Crisis":
"Between 2004 and 2006, when subprime lending was exploding, Fannie and Freddie went from holding a high of 48 percent of the subprime loans that were sold into the secondary market to holding about 24 percent, according to data from Inside Mortgage Finance, a specialty publication. Even so, by 2007 only 17 percent of their total portfolio was either either subprime or Alt-A loans. Due to regulations, their percentage of these loans are actually better than many banks."
As David Goldstein and Kevin G. Hall write in the McClatchy Newspapers:
"During those same explosive three years, private investment banks -- not Fannie and Freddie -- dominated the mortgage loans that were packaged and sold into the secondary mortgage market. In 2005 and 2006, the private sector securitized almost two thirds of all U.S. mortgages, supplanting Fannie and Freddie, according to a number of specialty publications that track this data."
According to David M. Abromowitz and David Min writing for the Center of American Progress:
"If the conservative view was correct, one would expect to see mortgages originated for Fannie and Freddie securitization, as well as those originated for purposes of CRA, to default at higher rates, since these were the loans directly subject to affordable housing policies. In fact, we see quite the opposite, as these loans have performed exponentially better than those originated for private securitization, which the FCIC Republicans ignore."
It was the greed of Privately owned banks, the reward system of bonuses to mortgage providers, the banks absolving themselves of responsibility for bad loans by bundling those loans and selling them mortgage backed securities, and then
KNOWING FULL WELL THOSE SECURITIES WOULD FAIL TAKING OUT INSURANCE ON THEM IF THEY DID, EVEN THOUGH THEY NO LONGER HAD A STAKE IN THEM
Want to blame someone, look at Wall Street, investment bankers and money market managers. There are probably both republicans and democrats in those groups, but I'll bet its predominately republicans
Well that was about the best spin you loons have come with. Everyone with sense and economist that aren't communist will agree, it started with Carter, put on steroids by Clinton and ran it up to the cliff and pushed America over it. Are republicans blameless no, but it was the liberal programs that they continued to push to buy the low information voter and seal them into the womb for future elections.
Eric Gustafson

Virginia Beach, VA

#2247 Nov 24, 2013
Anonymous of Indy wrote:
<quoted text>Indiana Sues Over ObamaCare As 60 Firms Cut Hours
By JED GRAHAM, INVESTOR'S BUSINESS DAILY
10/10/2013
http://news.investors.com/politics-obamacare/...
So Indiana doesn't think enough of the School Employees to offer them comprehensive Health Care Coverage...... That sounds like a State that doesn't

1. Value their employees and public servants.

2. Think enough of their Students to obtain the best possible professional to instruct them in education.

“Hillary, thirty years of lying”

Since: Nov 08

Paris

#2248 Nov 24, 2013
Teaman wrote:
<quoted text>
That's true. Attempts by Bush to reform Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac were ignored. Chris Dodd, who was receiving sweet heart deals from Countrywide mortgage, even threatened to filibuster any legislation to reform the two GSEs.
http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/ne...
hahahahahah if you want to look back when it all went south pookie, it was right after the libs took both houses of congress. Those last two years of Bush really made him a lame duck president, Much the same as Obama will be after 2014. Dodd and Franks lead both house chairmen positions that blocked Bush's 6 attempts to stop the horror to come.

“Hillary, thirty years of lying”

Since: Nov 08

Paris

#2249 Nov 24, 2013
Eric Gustafson wrote:
<quoted text>
So Indiana doesn't think enough of the School Employees to offer them comprehensive Health Care Coverage...... That sounds like a State that doesn't
1. Value their employees and public servants.
2. Think enough of their Students to obtain the best possible professional to instruct them in education.
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