Confederate flag stirs patriotic Va. retort

Sep 27, 2013 Full story: WRIC-TV Richmond 38

A group's plan to hoist a Confederate flag up a 50-foot pole along Interstate 95 has sparked a patriotic response from opponents in the former capital of the Confederacy: the flying of the American flag.

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benson

Richmond, VA

#1 Sep 27, 2013
Yes sir......the Ameircan flag is our symbol of pride and heritage, not that hideous rebel yell confederate flag. The confederate flag represents all thats wrong with the losers from the south. The war has been over for years and those dummies won't let it go. The nerve of them wanting to put up that flag that symbolizes a defeated foe. Here in America we just don't allow any other flag to fly that insults or degrads what happen back then. Take the cue from Germany, when they banned the flying of the Nazi symbol of evil. We need to pass a law banning the flying of the confederate flag....a symbol of evil. That heritage shyt don't fly here.
Oh my

Richmond, VA

#2 Sep 28, 2013
It's hate, not heritage. Plain and simple, much like the folk that want to fly the stars 'n bars.
Truth

Woodbridge, VA

#3 Sep 29, 2013
The comparison of the confederate flag to the flag of Nazi Germany is totally off the wall and wrong Having served two tours in Germany I think I know what I'm talking about.

It would be nice if some people actually GREW out of their little comfort zone and started studying a little history. That flag didn't just represent what was taught in public school.

It was the symbol of conditions we see similarly today: stark economic contrasts that somehow prevented the entire country from growing together. Issues had to be resolved that quite frankly, didn't GET resolved. State's rights. So we find ourselves in a similar situation now as we did then. THAT is why this flag is coming back. It is a symbol of DEFIANCE much like the flag "Don't Tread On Me".

Forget the flag, race and the damned klan, and think on present circumstances. Think BEYOND what you're seeing.

A little consideration for the 1st amendment to our constitution wouldn't hurt either.
benson

Richmond, VA

#4 Sep 29, 2013
Truth wrote:
The comparison of the confederate flag to the flag of Nazi Germany is totally off the wall and wrong Having served two tours in Germany I think I know what I'm talking about.
It would be nice if some people actually GREW out of their little comfort zone and started studying a little history. That flag didn't just represent what was taught in public school.
It was the symbol of conditions we see similarly today: stark economic contrasts that somehow prevented the entire country from growing together. Issues had to be resolved that quite frankly, didn't GET resolved. State's rights. So we find ourselves in a similar situation now as we did then. THAT is why this flag is coming back. It is a symbol of DEFIANCE much like the flag "Don't Tread On Me".
Forget the flag, race and the damned klan, and think on present circumstances. Think BEYOND what you're seeing.
A little consideration for the 1st amendment to our constitution wouldn't hurt either.
nazi flag.....symbol of hate!!!!!!!!!!
rebel flag.....symbol of hate!!!!!!!!!
WHATS THE FREAKIN DIFFERENCE :(
Truth

Woodbridge, VA

#5 Sep 30, 2013
benson wrote:
<quoted text>
nazi flag.....symbol of hate!!!!!!!!!!
rebel flag.....symbol of hate!!!!!!!!!
WHATS THE FREAKIN DIFFERENCE :(
Do I really have to explain it to you?? Or are you jerking me around.

The Nazi flag was the symbol of a VERY oppressive regime. A charismatic leader was elected by the people to get them out of dire circumstances. The propaganda of the time CATERED to that leader and his administration. He basically had his own elite force to control the social situation to go in the leader's favor.
His administration burned books which was his way of stifling opposition, Jews and malcontents were rounded up and put in concentration camps, and atrocities were committed. MASSIVE amounts of bodies were burned in OVENS, some were simply lined up and shot and buried in mass grave pits. A little of that oppression lasted up until the mid 1980s until the Berlin wall came down. I was there. THIS was an entire nation that started its imperialistic march all across Europe. Mind you, I said imperialistic. That means the nations around them had NO CHOICE. The Nazi regime was all about hating opposition. Hence the stigma of the flag.

The confederate flag originally was representative of the opposition of statism; the nationalizing of our country which determined that we today would have a powerful central government.
Slavery was held up as the glaring moral cause, when in reality it was only an economic part of the conflict. The confederate flag did NOT at the time represent, "rednecks" or the "klan", groups that later adopted it. The confederate flag represented SECESSION, the forming of a group of states against a powerful centralized government. It represented DEFIANCE so much so that post civil war the phrase came about "the south shall rise again". This argument STILL has not been resolved.

The Nazi flag represents something VERY specific: national abominations and oppression. The CONFEDERATE flag represents not only our aforementioned history, but has been used and ABUSED by other groups in this country. It is a symbol of political DEFIANCE, AND unfortunately, has been snagged, abused and used by "rednecks" and the racist KKK.

So when you SEE this flag, you need to remember its original purpose, AS WELL AS ITS ABUSIVE ADOPTION today. I personally REJECT its abuse as I reject the KKK and the "redneck" culture. Just for the record.
Truth

Woodbridge, VA

#6 Sep 30, 2013
Mind you, just because you see a confederate flag flying in front of a person's house today does NOT mean that the person that has it hung is automatically racist, or has allegiance to the KKK, OR is even a "redneck". Look for OTHER signs for that sort of thing.

For those in the know, it is also today in the same category as the "Don't Tread on Me" flag; and that is pure and simple DEFIANCE to the government status quo. It's designed to say, I WILL defy your oppression.
Uber-Bro of the Unborn

Norfolk, VA

#7 Sep 30, 2013
benson wrote:
<quoted text>
nazi flag.....symbol of hate!!!!!!!!!!
rebel flag.....symbol of hate!!!!!!!!!
WHATS THE FREAKIN DIFFERENCE :(
Have you ever asked yourself "benson" if there is a link between racism and abortion? I suggest you check out the web-site of Life Dynamics Incorporated and watch the DVD Maafa 21!!
Truth

Woodbridge, VA

#8 Sep 30, 2013
Uber-Bro of the Unborn wrote:
<quoted text>Have you ever asked yourself "benson" if there is a link between racism and abortion? I suggest you check out the web-site of Life Dynamics Incorporated and watch the DVD Maafa 21!!
I doubt it. It's all about one simple word CONVENIENCE.

A person gets an abortion when:
they can't afford a child and didn't bother to keep their pants zipped
they don't WANT a child
they're scared because it was "an accident".
Huh

Pearisburg, VA

#10 Sep 30, 2013
benson wrote:
<quoted text>
nazi flag.....symbol of hate!!!!!!!!!!
rebel flag.....symbol of hate!!!!!!!!!
WHATS THE FREAKIN DIFFERENCE :(
Malcoon x symbol of hate, black panthers. Symbol of hate, Muslim brotherhood. Symbol of hate
Truth

Woodbridge, VA

#11 Sep 30, 2013
Huh wrote:
<quoted text> Malcoon x symbol of hate, black panthers. Symbol of hate, Muslim brotherhood. Symbol of hate
BINGO! Now the shoes on the other foot. Oh, and I can remember the rap I heard from kid's boomboxes around the school ground.."Kill the white people." Oh, but no one else BUT white folk can be racist don't you know.
Tinkle

Brookneal, VA

#12 Sep 30, 2013
benson wrote:
Yes sir......the Ameircan flag is our symbol of pride and heritage, not that hideous rebel yell confederate flag. The confederate flag represents all thats wrong with the losers from the south. The war has been over for years and those dummies won't let it go. The nerve of them wanting to put up that flag that symbolizes a defeated foe. Here in America we just don't allow any other flag to fly that insults or degrads what happen back then. Take the cue from Germany, when they banned the flying of the Nazi symbol of evil. We need to pass a law banning the flying of the confederate flag....a symbol of evil. That heritage shyt don't fly here.
You are a ""F"" idiot. I am a 26 yr. Military Veteran. Those soldiers deserve to have their flag fly same as the US Flag. It has nothing to do with the North Or South but respect for the departed soldiers. You need your azze kicked. It is obvious you have never been in the US Military. We did take a cue from Germany and then kicked their azze. Grow up and look at the pictures. You are what is wrong with racial separations today.
benson

Richmond, VA

#13 Sep 30, 2013
Truth wrote:
<quoted text>
Do I really have to explain it to you?? Or are you jerking me around.
The Nazi flag was the symbol of a VERY oppressive regime. A charismatic leader was elected by the people to get them out of dire circumstances. The propaganda of the time CATERED to that leader and his administration. He basically had his own elite force to control the social situation to go in the leader's favor.
His administration burned books which was his way of stifling opposition, Jews and malcontents were rounded up and put in concentration camps, and atrocities were committed. MASSIVE amounts of bodies were burned in OVENS, some were simply lined up and shot and buried in mass grave pits. A little of that oppression lasted up until the mid 1980s until the Berlin wall came down. I was there. THIS was an entire nation that started its imperialistic march all across Europe. Mind you, I said imperialistic. That means the nations around them had NO CHOICE. The Nazi regime was all about hating opposition. Hence the stigma of the flag.
The confederate flag originally was representative of the opposition of statism; the nationalizing of our country which determined that we today would have a powerful central government.
Slavery was held up as the glaring moral cause, when in reality it was only an economic part of the conflict. The confederate flag did NOT at the time represent, "rednecks" or the "klan", groups that later adopted it. The confederate flag represented SECESSION, the forming of a group of states against a powerful centralized government. It represented DEFIANCE so much so that post civil war the phrase came about "the south shall rise again". This argument STILL has not been resolved.
The Nazi flag represents something VERY specific: national abominations and oppression. The CONFEDERATE flag represents not only our aforementioned history, but has been used and ABUSED by other groups in this country. It is a symbol of political DEFIANCE, AND unfortunately, has been snagged, abused and used by "rednecks" and the racist KKK.
So when you SEE this flag, you need to remember its original purpose, AS WELL AS ITS ABUSIVE ADOPTION today. I personally REJECT its abuse as I reject the KKK and the "redneck" culture. Just for the record.
Nice try ole chum....it still calls to mind many evil doings of racist white ppl.in the name of that hideous flag. Rebels and confederates need not say anything further on the subject. The south was resoundingly defeated and i'm glad they drove old dixie down.
benson

Richmond, VA

#14 Sep 30, 2013
Truth wrote:
Mind you, just because you see a confederate flag flying in front of a person's house today does NOT mean that the person that has it hung is automatically racist, or has allegiance to the KKK, OR is even a "redneck". Look for OTHER signs for that sort of thing.
For those in the know, it is also today in the same category as the "Don't Tread on Me" flag; and that is pure and simple DEFIANCE to the government status quo. It's designed to say, I WILL defy your oppression.
Most ignorant sympathizers of the conderate way are racist and cowards. Never found one yet that wasn't racist when confronted about flying that flag. Who are you trying to fool!!!!!!!!!!
benson

Richmond, VA

#15 Sep 30, 2013
Truth wrote:
<quoted text>
I doubt it. It's all about one simple word CONVENIENCE.
A person gets an abortion when:
they can't afford a child and didn't bother to keep their pants zipped
they don't WANT a child
they're scared because it was "an accident".
None of what you said is correct......abortion is simply a contraceptive after the fact.
benson

Richmond, VA

#16 Sep 30, 2013
Huh wrote:
<quoted text> Malcoon x symbol of hate, black panthers. Symbol of hate, Muslim brotherhood. Symbol of hate
They don't fly any damn flag to intimidate.....only you rebellish devils do that. Go somewhere and sit down.
benson

Richmond, VA

#17 Sep 30, 2013
Truth wrote:
<quoted text>
BINGO! Now the shoes on the other foot. Oh, and I can remember the rap I heard from kid's boomboxes around the school ground.."Kill the white people." Oh, but no one else BUT white folk can be racist don't you know.
What has that to do with flying the confederate flag.....all kinds of music slam the races at one time or another. BINGO my azz!!!!!!!!!!
Oh my

Richmond, VA

#18 Sep 30, 2013
As those who are truly educated on the matter will explain: Those who know a little about The Civil War think it was about slavery. Those who know a fair amount about The Civil War think it was about state rights. Those that are knowledgeable about The Civil War know that it was only ever about slavery.

Clear enough?
Truth

Woodbridge, VA

#19 Oct 1, 2013
benson wrote:
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None of what you said is correct......abortion is simply a contraceptive after the fact.
No, abortion is murder; period.
benson

Richmond, VA

#20 Oct 1, 2013
Truth wrote:
<quoted text>
No, abortion is murder; period.
So was the "jim crow" lynchings......KKK lynchings....eugenics etc. and you damn ppl. were gleeful and happy to murder black ppl.. You turds were no better than the Nazis murdering Jews. Go hide your face.
Huh

Pearisburg, VA

#21 Oct 3, 2013
benson wrote:
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So was the "jim crow" lynchings......KKK lynchings....eugenics etc. and you damn ppl. were gleeful and happy to murder black ppl.. You turds were no better than the Nazis murdering Jews. Go hide your face.
lol black have killed more blacks in the passed year than kkk in their intire history. What does that make you Toby?

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