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Since: Feb 10

Midlothian, VA

#1 Nov 17, 2012
http://news.yahoo.com/petraeus-cia-blamed-ter...

"Testifying out of sight, ex-CIA Director David Petraeus told Congress Friday that classified intelligence showed the deadly raid on the U.S. Consulate in Libya was a terrorist attack but the administration withheld the suspected role of al-Qaida affiliates to avoid tipping them off."

"The recently resigned spy chief explained that references to terrorist groups suspected of carrying out the violence were removed from the public explanation of what caused the attack so as not to alert them that U.S. intelligence was on their trail, according to lawmakers who attended Petraeus' private briefings."

"After the hearings, lawmakers who questioned Petraeus said he testified that the CIA's draft talking points in response to the assault on the diplomatic post in Benghazi that killed four Americans referred to it as a terrorist attack. Petraeus said that reference was removed from the final version, although he wasn't sure which federal agency deleted it."

There is no way Rice didn't know she was lying when she spewed on national TV that it was because of a youtube video.

And yet, NObama wants Congress and America to trust her to replace Clinton as SecState?

Like any country would believe her now?

John "Traitor" Kerry, the man that lied about the medals he threw away has a better chance of having fools believe he would tell the truth.

Neither of these two proven liar is trustworthy to be SecState!

Since: Feb 10

Midlothian, VA

#2 Nov 17, 2012
"They were shown a video to illustrate the chronology of the attack, which edited together security video from the consulate and surveillance footage taken by an unarmed CIA Predator drone, and even local Libyan cellphone footage taken from YouTube showing Stevens being carried out by people who looked like they were trying to rescue him."

"A U.S. official who viewed it said the video shows clearly there was no demonstration prior to the attack, and then, suddenly armed men started streaming into the mission."

One more time for the idiots out there: "there was no demonstration prior to the attack, and then, suddenly armed men started streaming into the mission."

Rice lied to the American people!
MAH

Quinton, VA

#3 Nov 17, 2012
va_tazdad wrote:
"They were shown a video to illustrate the chronology of the attack, which edited together security video from the consulate and surveillance footage taken by an unarmed CIA Predator drone, and even local Libyan cellphone footage taken from YouTube showing Stevens being carried out by people who looked like they were trying to rescue him."
"A U.S. official who viewed it said the video shows clearly there was no demonstration prior to the attack, and then, suddenly armed men started streaming into the mission."
One more time for the idiots out there: "there was no demonstration prior to the attack, and then, suddenly armed men started streaming into the mission."
Rice lied to the American people!
Like you never tell a lie yourself??

Since: Feb 10

Midlothian, VA

#4 Nov 17, 2012
MAH wrote:
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Like you never tell a lie yourself??
Not on national TV, multiple times, representing the US government, moron!
MAH

Quinton, VA

#5 Nov 17, 2012
va_tazdad wrote:
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Not on national TV, multiple times, representing the US government, moron!
Why should that make any difference?? A liar is a liar, fraud!!

Since: Feb 10

Midlothian, VA

#6 Nov 17, 2012
MAH wrote:
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Why should that make any difference?? A liar is a liar, fraud!!
Well, you said it. Rice lied!

So that means the US government lied AGAIN !!!!!!
S4ASUPERIOR2UX2

Bluefield, WV

#7 Nov 17, 2012
va_tazdad wrote:
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Well, you said it. Rice lied!
So that means the US government lied AGAIN !!!!!!
Did you finally look up from your 'poling' work with SkankBoob-ScatPants and realize that our govt will actually lie to it's citizens?
Be proud in the morning when you get up, it will be the first day of actual awareness for the rest of your sorry @$$ life.
Woe Woe Woe

Ocala, FL

#8 Nov 17, 2012
I do not think that AMB Lied. I think it is a damn good possibly that President Obama's Senior Advisor which is also his Builderburger controllerSenior Advisor could have possibly changed the talking points in colusion with his senior campaign manager so that President's Obama re-election campaign could make it thru the debates with ..the White House's official statement that Al Quaeda was back on its heels and that the war on terrorism was over......

Checkout ...his Senior Adivisor's creditionals;

Valerie B. Jarrett is a Senior Advisor to President Barack Obama. She is also the Chair of the White House Council on Women and Girls.

Prior to joining the Obama Administration, she was the Chief Executive Officer of The Habitat Company. She also served as Co-Chair of the Obama-Biden Presidential Transition Team, and Senior Advisor to Obama's presidential campaign.

Ms. Jarrett has held positions in both the public and private sector, including the Chairman of the Chicago Transit Board, the Commissioner of Planning and Development for the City of Chicago, and Deputy Chief of Staff for Mayor Richard M. Daley. She also practiced law with two private law firms.

Jarrett also served as a director of corporate and not for profit boards, including Chairman of the Board of the Chicago Stock Exchange, Director of the Federal Reserve Bank of Chicago, and Chairman of the University of Chicago Medical Center Board of Trustees.

Jarrett received her B.A. from Stanford University in 1978 and her J.D. from the University of Michigan Law School in 1981.

I have to admit this statement is just speculation.... but with the White House still in toral denial ...my take is just as good as anyone elses.

WorryMuch

United States

#9 Nov 17, 2012
Woe Woe Woe wrote:
I do not think that AMB Lied. I think it is a damn good possibly that President Obama's Senior Advisor which is also his Builderburger controllerSenior Advisor could have possibly changed the talking points in colusion with his senior campaign manager so that President's Obama re-election campaign could make it thru the debates with ..the White House's official statement that Al Quaeda was back on its heels and that the war on terrorism was over......
Checkout ...his Senior Adivisor's creditionals;
Valerie B. Jarrett is a Senior Advisor to President Barack Obama. She is also the Chair of the White House Council on Women and Girls.
Prior to joining the Obama Administration, she was the Chief Executive Officer of The Habitat Company. She also served as Co-Chair of the Obama-Biden Presidential Transition Team, and Senior Advisor to Obama's presidential campaign.
Ms. Jarrett has held positions in both the public and private sector, including the Chairman of the Chicago Transit Board, the Commissioner of Planning and Development for the City of Chicago, and Deputy Chief of Staff for Mayor Richard M. Daley. She also practiced law with two private law firms.
Jarrett also served as a director of corporate and not for profit boards, including Chairman of the Board of the Chicago Stock Exchange, Director of the Federal Reserve Bank of Chicago, and Chairman of the University of Chicago Medical Center Board of Trustees.
Jarrett received her B.A. from Stanford University in 1978 and her J.D. from the University of Michigan Law School in 1981.
I have to admit this statement is just speculation.... but with the White House still in toral denial ...my take is just as good as anyone elses.
Another Ghost Chaser...sighs

Since: Feb 10

Richmond, VA

#10 Nov 17, 2012
Woe Woe Woe wrote:
I do not think that AMB Lied. I think it is a damn good possibly that President Obama's Senior Advisor which is also his Builderburger controllerSenior Advisor could have possibly changed the talking points in colusion with his senior campaign manager so that President's Obama re-election campaign could make it thru the debates with ..the White House's official statement that Al Quaeda was back on its heels and that the war on terrorism was over......
Checkout ...his Senior Adivisor's creditionals;
Valerie B. Jarrett is a Senior Advisor to President Barack Obama. She is also the Chair of the White House Council on Women and Girls.
Prior to joining the Obama Administration, she was the Chief Executive Officer of The Habitat Company. She also served as Co-Chair of the Obama-Biden Presidential Transition Team, and Senior Advisor to Obama's presidential campaign.
Ms. Jarrett has held positions in both the public and private sector, including the Chairman of the Chicago Transit Board, the Commissioner of Planning and Development for the City of Chicago, and Deputy Chief of Staff for Mayor Richard M. Daley. She also practiced law with two private law firms.
Jarrett also served as a director of corporate and not for profit boards, including Chairman of the Board of the Chicago Stock Exchange, Director of the Federal Reserve Bank of Chicago, and Chairman of the University of Chicago Medical Center Board of Trustees.
Jarrett received her B.A. from Stanford University in 1978 and her J.D. from the University of Michigan Law School in 1981.
I have to admit this statement is just speculation.... but with the White House still in toral denial ...my take is just as good as anyone elses.
There is no doubt in my mind that at her level, Amb. Rice had the truth and knew she was lying.

Sadly, there are many in America that believed her spew.

I did not.
Woe Woe Woe

Ocala, FL

#11 Nov 18, 2012
va_tazdad wrote:
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There is no doubt in my mind that at her level, Amb. Rice had the truth and knew she was lying.
Sadly, there are many in America that believed her spew.
I did not.
I did not believe her spew either....but you have to remember she was briefing from talking points submitted to her by one of 4 people: Jacob Lew, White House Chief of Staff; Sr Obama Advisor, Valerie Jarrett; Obama Campaign Manager, David Alexrod and Secretary of State, Hilary Clinton. One or all four or a combination of 2 or more of the 4 listed modified those talking points submitted by the intelligence community. So do you think that Hilary met up in Thaliland for public events or to suck Obama's big toe and plan out how they are going to deceive us the American Public on Benghazi???

Since: Feb 10

Richmond, VA

#12 Nov 18, 2012
Woe Woe Woe wrote:
<quoted text>I did not believe her spew either....but you have to remember she was briefing from talking points submitted to her by one of 4 people: Jacob Lew, White House Chief of Staff; Sr Obama Advisor, Valerie Jarrett; Obama Campaign Manager, David Alexrod and Secretary of State, Hilary Clinton. One or all four or a combination of 2 or more of the 4 listed modified those talking points submitted by the intelligence community. So do you think that Hilary met up in Thaliland for public events or to suck Obama's big toe and plan out how they are going to deceive us the American Public on Benghazi???
Rice was sent to the Sunday morning TV shows by the White House. They have the last word/approval on "talking points" that their "representatives" use.

Rice lied, no question about it.
VN Vet

Hopewell, VA

#13 Nov 18, 2012
Rice lied, Obama lied, all liberals lie. When you experiment by putting a "N"word in power, this is what you get. A real black MAN wouldn't act this way. This POS is a welfare parasite product of a 1960s liberal ho and commie grand-parents. Good gawd, have the voters of this country fukked up now. I guess we get what we deserved with all this welfare for decades and generations.
WorryMuch

United States

#14 Nov 19, 2012
VN Vet wrote:
Rice lied, Obama lied, all liberals lie. When you experiment by putting a "N"word in power, this is what you get. A real black MAN wouldn't act this way. This POS is a welfare parasite product of a 1960s liberal ho and commie grand-parents. Good gawd, have the voters of this country fukked up now. I guess we get what we deserved with all this welfare for decades and generations.
In 1980, poverty was at an all time high. In support of the elite, Reagan reduced the government's revenue, using the wage earner's fica to make it look as if his policies actually worked. Corporate Welfare, maybe. Low income welfare, highly doubtful.

Taking social security and medicare taxes as if they were meant for the general fund is why we are in this mess. Blaming Obama because his grandparents weren't wealthy or that his mother found interest in a British subject is asinine. Denigrating others may make you feel better but it doesn't resolve the issues at hand but what more should we expect of you, anyways. You're from Dopewell.

Since: Feb 10

Richmond, VA

#15 Nov 19, 2012
WorryMuch wrote:
<quoted text> In 1980, poverty was at an all time high. In support of the elite, Reagan reduced the government's revenue, using the wage earner's fica to make it look as if his policies actually worked. Corporate Welfare, maybe. Low income welfare, highly doubtful.
Taking social security and medicare taxes as if they were meant for the general fund is why we are in this mess. Blaming Obama because his grandparents weren't wealthy or that his mother found interest in a British subject is asinine. Denigrating others may make you feel better but it doesn't resolve the issues at hand but what more should we expect of you, anyways. You're from Dopewell.
Let's talk facts.
Since itís inception until 1964, the SS Fund was untouchable to Congress. LBJ with the help of a Democrat House and Senate changed the status so Congress could divert the surplus to his social programs. IOUís in the form of Treasury bonds were issued to the fund to cover the theft.

Now, the SS Fund is taking in less than it is paying out and they are sending the IOUís ($2.6 TRILLION) to the Treasury Department for payment.

Obama reduced the fundís revenue by cutting the tax from 7.65 to 5.65 and borrowed the difference for 2 years now.
Last year, he reduced the fund revenue further by cutting the Employer portion of the tax by the same 2%.

Reality sucks, but NObama needs to take responsibility for his share of this disaster!
WorryMuch

United States

#16 Nov 19, 2012
va_tazdad wrote:
<quoted text>
Let's talk facts.
Since itís inception until 1964, the SS Fund was untouchable to Congress. LBJ with the help of a Democrat House and Senate changed the status so Congress could divert the surplus to his social programs. IOUís in the form of Treasury bonds were issued to the fund to cover the theft.
Now, the SS Fund is taking in less than it is paying out and they are sending the IOUís ($2.6 TRILLION) to the Treasury Department for payment.
Obama reduced the fundís revenue by cutting the tax from 7.65 to 5.65 and borrowed the difference for 2 years now.
Last year, he reduced the fund revenue further by cutting the Employer portion of the tax by the same 2%.
Reality sucks, but NObama needs to take responsibility for his share of this disaster!
In the 60's it took 17 people to care for one drawing social security, today, it only takes 3 people to care for 1. If the money was there that was supposed to be there, then there wouldn't be any unfunded liabilities, in the first place.

Your assertion is that Obama somehow defunded the social security trust account that has been empty for the past 25 years? That $2.6 trillion, you're referring to is what is supposed to be in the account. The only trouble I see with having Obama in office is the necessity of transparency; whereas, when their were White guys running it, no one needed to see or know anything.

Basically, Obama is disclosing the truth about it's solvency; which within itself is a terrible thing. Mainly, because Americans don't do well with uncertainty; especially, White Males. Everyone else in America can pretty much cope. Whites' solution is take the cowards way out, war as a solution for problems of inequality.

Time and time again, I hear you guys claim that Blacks get mad and destroy their own neighborhoods and that Whites are more civilized. Being that a civil rebellion is the source of much of Whites' pride, I would beg to differ. I highly doubt that Black Americans have killed anywhere near as much as Whites, add in abortions and no one would ever be capable of amassing those types of numbers. Republicans are socially engineering the law to prevent Whites own self-inflicted genocide, as we speak.

Since: Feb 10

Midlothian, VA

#17 Nov 19, 2012
WorryMuch wrote:
<quoted text>In the 60's it took 17 people to care for one drawing social security, today, it only takes 3 people to care for 1. If the money was there that was supposed to be there, then there wouldn't be any unfunded liabilities, in the first place.
Your assertion is that Obama somehow defunded the social security trust account that has been empty for the past 25 years? That $2.6 trillion, you're referring to is what is supposed to be in the account. The only trouble I see with having Obama in office is the necessity of transparency; whereas, when their were White guys running it, no one needed to see or know anything.
Basically, Obama is disclosing the truth about it's solvency; which within itself is a terrible thing. Mainly, because Americans don't do well with uncertainty; especially, White Males. Everyone else in America can pretty much cope. Whites' solution is take the cowards way out, war as a solution for problems of inequality.
Time and time again, I hear you guys claim that Blacks get mad and destroy their own neighborhoods and that Whites are more civilized. Being that a civil rebellion is the source of much of Whites' pride, I would beg to differ. I highly doubt that Black Americans have killed anywhere near as much as Whites, add in abortions and no one would ever be capable of amassing those types of numbers. Republicans are socially engineering the law to prevent Whites own self-inflicted genocide, as we speak.
You have a real reading comprehension problem. One more time for you slow folks.

Let's talk facts.
Since itís inception until 1964, the SS Fund was untouchable to Congress. LBJ with the help of a Democrat House and Senate changed the status so Congress could divert the surplus to his social programs. IOUís in the form of Treasury bonds were issued to the fund to cover the theft.

(That means Congress has been stealing the surplus since 1964 thanks to LBJ and Congress, LONG BEFORE NObama)

Now, the SS Fund is taking in less than it is paying out and they are sending the IOUís ($2.6 TRILLION) to the Treasury Department for payment.

(Now is the NObama part of the stupidity)

Obama reduced the fundís revenue by cutting the tax from 7.65 to 5.65 and borrowed the difference for 2 years now. Last year, he reduced the fund revenue further by cutting the Employer portion of the tax by the same 2%.

Reality sucks, but NObama needs to take responsibility for his share of this disaster!

Did you get it this time? CONGRESS are the morons that "defunded" SS.

NObama just made the problem worse (I would have said compounded, but I doubt you could grasp that term)by reducing the annual revenue and borrowing from China to make up the difference.

Did I make it simple enough for you this time????????

If not, go back to 3rd grade along side nothead!
VN Vet

Hopewell, VA

#18 Nov 19, 2012
WorryMuch, if I or a group of people come to your home and take all your property, you'd call it theft. When the govt. does it to me, you call it good for the poor. BS, people like you don't deserve to exist.
WorryMuch

United States

#19 Nov 19, 2012
va_tazdad wrote:
<quoted text>
You have a real reading comprehension problem. One more time for you slow folks.
Let's talk facts.
Since itís inception until 1964, the SS Fund was untouchable to Congress. LBJ with the help of a Democrat House and Senate changed the status so Congress could divert the surplus to his social programs. IOUís in the form of Treasury bonds were issued to the fund to cover the theft.
(That means Congress has been stealing the surplus since 1964 thanks to LBJ and Congress, LONG BEFORE NObama)
Now, the SS Fund is taking in less than it is paying out and they are sending the IOUís ($2.6 TRILLION) to the Treasury Department for payment.
(Now is the NObama part of the stupidity)
Obama reduced the fundís revenue by cutting the tax from 7.65 to 5.65 and borrowed the difference for 2 years now. Last year, he reduced the fund revenue further by cutting the Employer portion of the tax by the same 2%.
Reality sucks, but NObama needs to take responsibility for his share of this disaster!
Did you get it this time? CONGRESS are the morons that "defunded" SS.
NObama just made the problem worse (I would have said compounded, but I doubt you could grasp that term)by reducing the annual revenue and borrowing from China to make up the difference.
Did I make it simple enough for you this time????????
If not, go back to 3rd grade along side nothead!
$2.6 trillion is supposed to be in the fund, anyways. If that amount of money was there to begin with; then what Obama wouldn't have needed to raise the debt limit in order to ensure checks could be sent out. The fund has been taking in less than it pays out, since 2010. Before Obama even implemented the reduction.

It makes sense to reduce the tax, if, in fact, republicans plan to privatize or do away with social security for future generations. The IOUs are already at the treasury. The treasury, they've been there for quite some time. LBJ in 1968 designed a unified budget. It wasn't implemented until Nixon took office.

Furthermore, tax revenue didn't grow where it needed to under reaganomics; the amount of fica tax grew. Which is why congress had to spend those funds and send IOUs to the social security fund. Two major reductions in revenue, once under Reagan and the second, under Bush doesn't equal up to the ability to repay those debts with interest, when the funds were needed. Obama has not borrowed $2.6 trillion from anyone, yet.

You can smart off all that you like, it's not going to make your statements true. Find an article, read the entire thing and if you dare, come back and we'll discuss it.
WorryMuch

United States

#20 Nov 19, 2012
VN Vet wrote:
WorryMuch, if I or a group of people come to your home and take all your property, you'd call it theft. When the govt. does it to me, you call it good for the poor. BS, people like you don't deserve to exist.
Your tax dollars, if you actually pay anything at all, other than personal property tax and you're probably getting a discount for that, as a senior, aren't going to the poor.

You like war(s), claim that your taxes are paying for that. It cost money to operate a government. I guarantee you're taking benefits as a VN Vet with very little actual service. Pay your own way. Buy your own insurance, stop mooching off of us. Hell, claim that your taxes are paying for your medical care. I'm sure what you've contributed doesn't cover that.

Is poverty a problem within the US? Sure. How did it happen? Has the economic system in America ever been capable of sustaining all of it's inhabitants? Slavery was okay in your opinion, right? Then why isn't it okay, when it's being done to you?

The North wanted to charge Southerners because they didn't have to pay for labor, The South rebelled. Crackers tore up the country, their own country. They were idiots then, they became teachers and I'm not looking for you to be anything more than a product of your upbringing. Still an idiot. Trying to reduce the revenue isn't going to make it possible to smother the impoverished by default. Defense spending and a whole range of other crap like policemen, firemen and teachers will go away first.

Is there a solution? Probably so but no one wants to give up their luxuries; cable tv, mail and phones or the ability to vacation. You're just a dumbass mf'r, living a simple ass life and trying to have a discussion based on something you've heard. Step away from the surface, it looks very inviting but delve a little deeper and you'll find Obama just like another president is dealing with the entire American history. Perhaps, he's not the guy that's going to make you feel okay, when there's nothing to feel okay about.

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