poor income familys in WV

poor income familys in WV

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broke

Charleston, WV

#1 May 8, 2013
there are families that only make 12 thousand a year, how bad is that?
sad

United States

#2 May 9, 2013
We make it on barely $14,000/year. It's tough.
confuscious

United States

#3 May 9, 2013
Move out of that hell hole and better yourself. Most people choose poverty because its easier.
sad

United States

#4 May 9, 2013
confuscious wrote:
Move out of that hell hole and better yourself. Most people choose poverty because its easier.
Poverty is FAR from easy. Obviously you've never done it or you would eat those words. Not everyone can jus pick up and move somewhere away from all their family and friends. It's not a choice, my husband and I BOTH work full time and do the best we can. You really should proofread what you're saying and take others feelings into consideration.
MsKamish

Charleston, WV

#5 May 21, 2013
If you think education is expensive, try being poor, for a LONG, LONG Time...."Expense" can be termed in many ways, not just in terms of $$$'s. You are constantly overwhelmed with trying to find a Peter to rob Paul just to meet expenses. Get your education, AT ANY EXPENSE! At least then you have more choices...
come on

Charleston, WV

#6 May 21, 2013
MsKamish wrote:
If you think education is expensive, try being poor, for a LONG, LONG Time...."Expense" can be termed in many ways, not just in terms of $$$'s. You are constantly overwhelmed with trying to find a Peter to rob Paul just to meet expenses. Get your education, AT ANY EXPENSE! At least then you have more choices...
Yes! That makes perfect sense!! Take more money out of your budget and more food out of your kids' bellies to get an education!!

Too bad a lot of people who hold master' degrees can't get jobs!! Your logic is SERIOUSLY flawed lady...the answer isn't to spend more money that isn't there to spend!!

It's the shithole state that is WV. I don't care who you are, unless you get in on the ground floor, your jobs will always be mediocre at best.

I'm sticking with what I got, IF that SOMEDAY allows for further education, so be it, but I don't see how furthering my family's struggle to gain education that isn't going to bring in more money helps.

Just because you get the education, doesn't mean you'll get the job!!
geez

Chesapeake, OH

#7 May 22, 2013
I have to disagree with you here, there are many many programs to help the people under the poverty line to get an education and find better jobs, you don't have t rob peter to pay paul...

And as far as people with masters that can't find jobs, I know a few people in that situation also, but the reason behind it, is that their fields of study are always very rare jobs that you would really have to luck into getting, or are basically.useless. like business management or something stupid like that, that is really a useless degree. If you get a real world applicable degree, you won't have a problem finding a job.
come on wrote:
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Yes! That makes perfect sense!! Take more money out of your budget and more food out of your kids' bellies to get an education!!
Too bad a lot of people who hold master' degrees can't get jobs!! Your logic is SERIOUSLY flawed lady...the answer isn't to spend more money that isn't there to spend!!
It's the shithole state that is WV. I don't care who you are, unless you get in on the ground floor, your jobs will always be mediocre at best.
I'm sticking with what I got, IF that SOMEDAY allows for further education, so be it, but I don't see how furthering my family's struggle to gain education that isn't going to bring in more money helps.
Just because you get the education, doesn't mean you'll get the job!!
geez

Chesapeake, OH

#8 May 22, 2013
Or even a certificate, go to carver get a certificate in Respiratory Therapy, $18+/hour usually starting out with a 2 year certificate or Dental Hygienist, $60K a year with a 2year certificate.. or anything in the computer field, web designers are in extremely high demand.
come on

Charleston, WV

#9 May 22, 2013
geez wrote:
Or even a certificate, go to carver get a certificate in Respiratory Therapy,$18+/hour usually starting out with a 2 year certificate or Dental Hygienist,$60K a year with a 2year certificate.. or anything in the computer field, web designers are in extremely high demand.
But those classes aren't free!! Who's going to pay for the classes, or provide funds to offset the cost of the classes!! It's not cheap to go to school. You have to make ridiculous decisions in order to make that work!!
geez

Chesapeake, OH

#10 May 22, 2013
Like I said in my first post, there are multitudes of programs and grants to help.with education, the state even offers tuition assistance to the poor. Even financial aide is deferred into after you graduate. So really the only decisions you have are, do you want to poor and suffer forever, or do a little research to get some help and sacrifice for a little while but provide a better future for your family in the long term?
come on wrote:
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But those classes aren't free!! Who's going to pay for the classes, or provide funds to offset the cost of the classes!! It's not cheap to go to school. You have to make ridiculous decisions in order to make that work!!
geez

Chesapeake, OH

#11 May 22, 2013
Geez, if my thumbs weren't so Freekin big, I could hit the space instead of the period sometimes and may be able to spell correctly... Sorry about that.
MsKamish

Charleston, WV

#12 May 22, 2013
geez wrote:
I have to disagree with you here, there are many many programs to help the people under the poverty line to get an education and find better jobs, you don't have t rob peter to pay paul...
And as far as people with masters that can't find jobs, I know a few people in that situation also, but the reason behind it, is that their fields of study are always very rare jobs that you would really have to luck into getting, or are basically.useless. like business management or something stupid like that, that is really a useless degree. If you get a real world applicable degree, you won't have a problem finding a job.
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You have a lot to learn...
MsKamish

Charleston, WV

#13 May 22, 2013
Why do you think people refer to Education as "An Investment?" It often determines your future.....
geez

Chesapeake, OH

#14 May 22, 2013
What do you mean "you have a lot to learn"?? Nothing istated was untrue or unfounded. Please respond with statements, not condescending remarks, as all I am trying to do is help anyone that is willing to listen..... If you have a better idea, please enlighten us.
hello

Charleston, WV

#15 May 22, 2013
geez wrote:
What do you mean "you have a lot to learn"?? Nothing istated was untrue or unfounded. Please respond with statements, not condescending remarks, as all I am trying to do is help anyone that is willing to listen..... If you have a better idea, please enlighten us.
Didn't you know?! She knows EVERYTHING. Pfft.
geez

Chesapeake, OH

#16 May 22, 2013
Oh? I see... I didn't realise that, but I would love to hear her thoughts on the subject, I am hoping for a well educated and informed response....
hello wrote:
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Didn't you know?! She knows EVERYTHING. Pfft.
straight up

Charleston, WV

#17 May 22, 2013
okay im just gonna go ahead and prove all of you wrong here, think about this. half of the job options in west Virginia are hard manual labor blue collar jobs, witch don't require hardly any education except a GED or a HS diploma. so no you don't need an education in wv to make a living, in fact an education might be a waste of your time considering there are hardly in job options here. lets just face it, if you're not a coal miner or a doctor here, you're not making much at all. if you really wanna pursue an education to get a job that pays heres a good word of advice LEAVE THE DAMN STATE! there's only have two options here, work a hard blue collar job that breaks your back with long hours or go to school for 8-10 years to get a PHD and become a doctor.. otherwise trying to get a master's degree or bachelors degree is just a waste of time and money with the job options here. look how many people went to school for 4-5 years and end up working for a cable company, look at all the people with degrees around here that work at a department store, that should speak for itself.
Laughable

Belle, WV

#18 May 22, 2013
Your narrow minded approach will open the small windows you speak of.... You must open your mind beyond what you "think" do a little research before you open your mouth.......

2 year degrees in respiratory therapy, you can make $45k a year.... And if you want, take nursing classes after that and go to 70-80k a year....

2 year certificate for dental hygienist, make $60k a year....

You can pick up a book and learn basic computer code and be a web designer.. its not as hard as you think, people get discouraged because they are scares, but its not that bad....... Web designers are so in demand right now, if you pick it up, even with no college degree you can make a ton of money

UPS pays its drivers upward of $30 an hour. Takes a little bit to get on full time but its far from back breaking work
...

There are many many opportunities in this state to make a good living without having to be a doctor or coal miner, you just can't keep that closed minded approach to it.
straight up wrote:
okay im just gonna go ahead and prove all of you wrong here, think about this. half of the job options in west Virginia are hard manual labor blue collar jobs, witch don't require hardly any education except a GED or a HS diploma. so no you don't need an education in wv to make a living, in fact an education might be a waste of your time considering there are hardly in job options here. lets just face it, if you're not a coal miner or a doctor here, you're not making much at all. if you really wanna pursue an education to get a job that pays heres a good word of advice LEAVE THE DAMN STATE! there's only have two options here, work a hard blue collar job that breaks your back with long hours or go to school for 8-10 years to get a PHD and become a doctor.. otherwise trying to get a master's degree or bachelors degree is just a waste of time and money with the job options here. look how many people went to school for 4-5 years and end up working for a cable company, look at all the people with degrees around here that work at a department store, that should speak for itself.
wondering

Charleston, WV

#19 May 23, 2013
Laughable wrote:
Your narrow minded approach will open the small windows you speak of.... You must open your mind beyond what you "think" do a little research before you open your mouth.......
2 year degrees in respiratory therapy, you can make $45k a year.... And if you want, take nursing classes after that and go to 70-80k a year....
2 year certificate for dental hygienist, make $60k a year....
You can pick up a book and learn basic computer code and be a web designer.. its not as hard as you think, people get discouraged because they are scares, but its not that bad....... Web designers are so in demand right now, if you pick it up, even with no college degree you can make a ton of money
UPS pays its drivers upward of $30 an hour. Takes a little bit to get on full time but its far from back breaking work
...
There are many many opportunities in this state to make a good living without having to be a doctor or coal miner, you just can't keep that closed minded approach to it.
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So...will you pay for my classes & extended education?? I can't find a school that will admit me for free, and comp my required materials. You seem to think it's easy to budget school, so, will you pay for mine?!
Laughable

United States

#20 May 23, 2013
Have you not read anything I have written? There are many many govt programs that assist with education tuition, grants, financial aide, student loans that are deferred til after you complete school, do a little research.........

I never said it was easy, but with a little hard work and research to get some help, you can do it.

The "it's too hard" attitude is what is wrong with society today, you never get anywhere if you don't try.. or you can meddle in mediocracy forever. Its your choice....
wondering wrote:
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So...will you pay for my classes & extended education?? I can't find a school that will admit me for free, and comp my required materials. You seem to think it's easy to budget school, so, will you pay for mine?!

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