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State of Florida

Taylorsville, NC

#44141 Nov 6, 2013
waco1909 wrote:
Obama is a perpetuator of terminological inexactitudes.You know, like State.
Big words.....Small brain.

“Vote”

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#44142 Nov 6, 2013
State of Florida wrote:
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Big words.....Small brain.
True that. You have a tiny brain.:)
Allen

Robbins, NC

#44143 Nov 6, 2013
waco1909 wrote:
People, some anyway, are predicting that Chris Christie will be the next president.
I predict that Humpty Dumpty will have a great fall.
TSF

Rocky Mount, NC

#44144 Nov 6, 2013
At this point, its outcome appears questionable. If the signup is botched, what will happen when you have a claim? The democrats became focused on selling it and not focused on implementing it or administering it. The republikans became so obsessed with killing it, they failed to offer alternatives. Crying wolf about everything else removed their credibility about any real issue. Doctors, pharmaceuticals and insurance companies are finding a gold mine in taking advantage of the bra hoo ha .
Meanwhile , back on planet Earth, we must still feed, clothe and educate our children, regardless of the head in the sand tea bagger fantasies of utopia ,where things are like they never have been and never will be..
waco1909 wrote:
<quoted text> PUBLIC SCHOOLS? What happened to Obamacare? The great Unaffordable Care Act...
Allen

Robbins, NC

#44145 Nov 6, 2013
waco1909 wrote:
<quoted text> PUBLIC SCHOOLS? What happened to Obamacare? The great Unaffordable Care Act...
"Educate and inform the whole mass of the people...They are the only sure reliance for the preservation of our liberty."
Thomas Jefferson

"I hope we shall crush in it's birth the aristocracy of our monied corporations which dare to challenge our government to a trial by strength, and bid defiance to the laws of our country."
Thomas Jefferson
TSF

Rocky Mount, NC

#44146 Nov 6, 2013
Unfortunately, unlike in your dream world, everyone cannot afford private schools. Unfortunately, unlike in your dream world, todays jobs require education. The public can supply that education less expensively than paying for the incarceration of all the masses of persons who cannot support themselves and would be left with no choice but to rob and steal to survive. There are a few jobs that require no education, but those are being filled with illegal aliens who have been invited here by the NC republikan legislature's jobs law for illegal aliens. That leaves no jobs or alternatives for the uneducated .
I'm sorry your experience in public schools was not positive. The FACT that I see children every day well prepared for college and the work force by public education tell me that your failure in school was due to factors outside the control of the school. Your attitude seems to be the predominant negative factor.
Taxpayer wrote:
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obama even makes a case for public school education reform and Defends Private School for his Daughters. obama will not send his kids to public schools. The fact that US public schools have a failing grade in math and reading to even the poorest of countries says you do not have a clue what you are talking about. You are probably one of those government workers pretending you are a teacher.

“Vote”

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#44147 Nov 6, 2013
Allen wrote:
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"Educate and inform the whole mass of the people...They are the only sure reliance for the preservation of our liberty."
Thomas Jefferson
"I hope we shall crush in it's birth the aristocracy of our monied corporations which dare to challenge our government to a trial by strength, and bid defiance to the laws of our country."
Thomas Jefferson
Jefferson was a genius and a great man. Jefferson was also a slave owner' This is paradox. I don't believe the guy down the street should have to go broke paying for my insurance.
Taxpayer

Rougemont, NC

#44148 Nov 6, 2013
TSF wrote:
Unfortunately, unlike in your dream world, everyone cannot afford private schools. Unfortunately, unlike in your dream world, todays jobs require education. The public can supply that education less expensively than paying for the incarceration of all the masses of persons who cannot support themselves and would be left with no choice but to rob and steal to survive. There are a few jobs that require no education, but those are being filled with illegal aliens who have been invited here by the NC republikan legislature's jobs law for illegal aliens. That leaves no jobs or alternatives for the uneducated .
I'm sorry your experience in public schools was not positive. The FACT that I see children every day well prepared for college and the work force by public education tell me that your failure in school was due to factors outside the control of the school. Your attitude seems to be the predominant negative factor.
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People cannot afford private schools because their income is being forcibly taken in taxes and to enrich those in government. The facts speak for themselves public schools are failing. They are failing because the people running them are not there to teach. These people are there to brain wash our children in to being subservient to a socialist government. Our children are not to think on their own, but to submit to what the state says they should be, think what the state says they should think, like who the state says they should like. Do not listen to your parents the state knows better. The state is lord and master. Public schools have turn into nothing more than a new twist on a fascist idea of Hitlerís youth camps.

“Vote”

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#44149 Nov 6, 2013
Taxpayer wrote:
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People cannot afford private schools because their income is being forcibly taken in taxes and to enrich those in government. The facts speak for themselves public schools are failing. They are failing because the people running them are not there to teach. These people are there to brain wash our children in to being subservient to a socialist government. Our children are not to think on their own, but to submit to what the state says they should be, think what the state says they should think, like who the state says they should like. Do not listen to your parents the state knows better. The state is lord and master. Public schools have turn into nothing more than a new twist on a fascist idea of Hitlerís youth camps.
Well put Taxpayer, and TRUE to boot.
Scott L

Charlotte, NC

#44150 Nov 6, 2013
"The facts speak for themselves public schools are failing."

My QUALIFIED opinion on that matter:
I took my daughter out of Charlotte public schools last year in the 2nd grade where she was in the top 10% of performing students. After a year in homeschool, she's now performing at the 5th grade level -- an entire YEAR ahead of her peers.(and still improving at an advanced rate) While in public school, she was being held to a "low standard" and performed as such.(Even though she was one of the "best" rated in public school standard.)

I took her out because an administrative snafu caused her to have 5 unexcused absences and we were threatened with criminal prosecution and social services! The principal later apologized and the teacher was chastised for not turning in the excuse letters. But the fact that the school system called social services without even talking to us was alarming!

When you go from public school to homeschool and you commit to making that a full-time job, you'll appreciate how ridiculous the public schools are. Children will learn if you just sit them in an empty room with a book. See the 60-minutes show on unschooling to see how that happens. Public schools many times send your child home with homework and that is when they are taught -- AT HOME!

My wife is not a professional educator and would not make a good professional educator. And with that limitation, we're still kicking butt!
TSF

Rocky Mount, NC

#44151 Nov 6, 2013
Oh hell. Here we go again with the public schools brain washing children with communistic/socialistic ideas of math, science, reading and writing. I understand that republikans hate those heathen subjects.. Unfortunately, knowledge of reading, writing and arithmetic are necessary to function in modern society. With your attitude, I am surprised that you even became semi literate.
Taxpayer wrote:
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People cannot afford private schools because their income is being forcibly taken in taxes and to enrich those in government. The facts speak for themselves public schools are failing. They are failing because the people running them are not there to teach. These people are there to brain wash our children in to being subservient to a socialist government. Our children are not to think on their own, but to submit to what the state says they should be, think what the state says they should think, like who the state says they should like. Do not listen to your parents the state knows better. The state is lord and master. Public schools have turn into nothing more than a new twist on a fascist idea of Hitlerís youth camps.
TSF

Rocky Mount, NC

#44152 Nov 6, 2013
Congratulations on having a home school success story. Individualized instruction to an intelligent child by competent adults is the best possible educational setting. Most frequently that is not the case because it becomes a blind leading the blind analogy where the parent sits and watches TV with the child instead of diligently working on academic development. Most of the home schooled children I have known were pathetically undeveloped both academically and socially .
Outstanding results like this could also be achieved by public schools if each child had their very own teacher instead of being just one name of 35 other students in a class without instructional materials like books, paper, chalk , pencils or even sturdy furniture to sit on. The crowded classes and no instructional materials are so that the governor can have bullet proof windows and a fancy bathroom.
Scott L wrote:
"The facts speak for themselves public schools are failing."
My QUALIFIED opinion on that matter:
I took my daughter out of Charlotte public schools last year in the 2nd grade where she was in the top 10% of performing students. After a year in homeschool, she's now performing at the 5th grade level -- an entire YEAR ahead of her peers.(and still improving at an advanced rate) While in public school, she was being held to a "low standard" and performed as such.(Even though she was one of the "best" rated in public school standard.)
I took her out because an administrative snafu caused her to have 5 unexcused absences and we were threatened with criminal prosecution and social services! The principal later apologized and the teacher was chastised for not turning in the excuse letters. But the fact that the school system called social services without even talking to us was alarming!
When you go from public school to homeschool and you commit to making that a full-time job, you'll appreciate how ridiculous the public schools are. Children will learn if you just sit them in an empty room with a book. See the 60-minutes show on unschooling to see how that happens. Public schools many times send your child home with homework and that is when they are taught -- AT HOME!
My wife is not a professional educator and would not make a good professional educator. And with that limitation, we're still kicking butt!
Scott L

Charlotte, NC

#44153 Nov 6, 2013
I see your points:

Homeschool is a job and I'm saying it would be hard to fail (measured by public school standards) IF you put in the time.(We have a single TV and only a rabbit ear antenna so that should tell you where our priorities are NOT.)

As well, there are very good homeschool groups out there that are great for socialization. Add to that an active Church youth program and there is no room for naysayers.

Finally, we did homeschool last year with a computer connected to the internet and lessons my wife created every night for the following morning. Almost ZERO budget. We were effective well-beyond public schools. This year we got lazy and bought $900 of curriculum. That's a luxury and gave us more time in the evenings to be free.

Take-away: self-reliance is not only possible, but better. Socializing education does what Socialism does: sets acceptable standards to a lower common denominator and reduces opportunities to maximize potential.(Political fun-bag: Give a Democrat everything they want and you get Socialism.)

For those that don't have the sense to invest into their children, public education is a good thing. For us that do have sense and put in the effort, we're still paying for a system that delivers less-than-good results. I wish I could just opt out of the public education thing entirely. Or if I have to pay for it, I should have some input into how my money is spent. Rather The feds have their say, the State has their say, and then the City/County have their say. The "insignificant" PARENT has what role in how their student is educated in a public school system? A perfect example of government gone bad.

“Vote”

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#44154 Nov 6, 2013
Rest assured, home schooling will not escape the notice of liberals, who will be alarmed at a child not being inculcated with the ideals of political correctness and the worship of government.

“Vote”

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#44155 Nov 6, 2013
Nazis were fond of getting the children away from their parents, in order to properly program them for the Glory of the Reich.
TSF

Rocky Mount, NC

#44156 Nov 6, 2013
You are a lucky and dedicated parent. Lucky in that you have the time to give to your child individualized attention, lucky that you and your wife have the education to be effective in this monumental effort , lucky you have the intelligence to recognize the importance of education to your child's future and the dedication to make it happen..
Millions of other parents work long hours for low pay sometimes at two or more jobs just to provide housing, clothing and food to their children. With little time or in many cases education, they must depend on public schools. The public schools, underfunded with under paid and overworked teachers have only minutes per day per child. They are serving not only as educators, but social workers to hordes of children who are hungry, abused , have emotional problems , family problems , physical disabilities, lack of medical attention and even to juvenile criminals who have been sentenced to return to school by the courts. Children come into class and sleep because they have been kept up all night by drunken hell raising parents. The teachers are the heroes of todays society. They are accomplishing the near impossible with next to nothing in resources. It really ruffles my feathers to hear the constant criticism that their product is not perfect. I know that 99% of them are doing the best they can with what they are given to work with. They have my admiration, respect and any help I can give them..
Scott L wrote:
I see your points:
Homeschool is a job and I'm saying it would be hard to fail (measured by public school standards) IF you put in the time.(We have a single TV and only a rabbit ear antenna so that should tell you where our priorities are NOT.)
As well, there are very good homeschool groups out there that are great for socialization. Add to that an active Church youth program and there is no room for naysayers.
Finally, we did homeschool last year with a computer connected to the internet and lessons my wife created every night for the following morning. Almost ZERO budget. We were effective well-beyond public schools. This year we got lazy and bought $900 of curriculum. That's a luxury and gave us more time in the evenings to be free.
Take-away: self-reliance is not only possible, but better. Socializing education does what Socialism does: sets acceptable standards to a lower common denominator and reduces opportunities to maximize potential.(Political fun-bag: Give a Democrat everything they want and you get Socialism.)
For those that don't have the sense to invest into their children, public education is a good thing. For us that do have sense and put in the effort, we're still paying for a system that delivers less-than-good results. I wish I could just opt out of the public education thing entirely. Or if I have to pay for it, I should have some input into how my money is spent. Rather The feds have their say, the State has their say, and then the City/County have their say. The "insignificant" PARENT has what role in how their student is educated in a public school system? A perfect example of government gone bad.
Scott L

Charlotte, NC

#44157 Nov 6, 2013
Socialism is bad no matter if its left-wing or right-wing that controls the Society. Socialism removes choice. When you have fewer options, you are (by definition) less free.

“Vote”

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#44158 Nov 6, 2013
Vlad the Impaler,AKA Kathleen Sebelius, says Obamacare numbers to be released soon.....expects"low "numbers....
State of Florida

Taylorsville, NC

#44159 Nov 6, 2013
waco1909 wrote:
<quoted text> Well put Taxpayer, and TRUE to boot.
I hope that Waco will have the opportunity someday to go and sit at the feet of his master, Taxpayer, and glean his wisdom, so that future generations will understand the horrors of socialism and the Democratic party as The Master has expressed on many occasions. All Hail, Taxpayer!
Scott L

Charlotte, NC

#44160 Nov 6, 2013
TSF wrote:
You are a lucky and dedicated parent. Lucky in that you have the time to give to your child individualized attention, lucky that you and your wife have the education to be effective in this monumental effort , lucky you have the intelligence to recognize the importance of education to your child's future and the dedication to make it happen..
Millions of other parents work long hours for low pay sometimes at two or more jobs just to provide housing, clothing and food to their children. With little time or in many cases education, they must depend on public schools. The public schools, underfunded with under paid and overworked teachers have only minutes per day per child. They are serving not only as educators, but social workers to hordes of children who are hungry, abused , have emotional problems , family problems , physical disabilities, lack of medical attention and even to juvenile criminals who have been sentenced to return to school by the courts. Children come into class and sleep because they have been kept up all night by drunken hell raising parents. The teachers are the heroes of todays society. They are accomplishing the near impossible with next to nothing in resources. It really ruffles my feathers to hear the constant criticism that their product is not perfect. I know that 99% of them are doing the best they can with what they are given to work with. They have my admiration, respect and any help I can give them..
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So I should elaborate a little. Public school teachers I find to be very well-intended and usually proficient. The public school SYSTEM however leaves much to be desired.

We have the time and resources to homeschool because we CHOOSE to do so. Luck has very little to do with it. Of course we could find a way to "need" more income and send my wife off to work. It's all how you define "need". Do you "need" to own a home? Pay for cable TV? Pay for a cell phone? Own a car? You'll find people who "need" that second income usually should qualify their use of the word "need".

For those that are single parents, well, on several occasions my wife and I would have preferred to be single. We hung in there. Because the alternative is to be lumped in with all the other desperate single parents who forfeit some of their children's potential for their own selfish reasons.(That's a generalization I know.)

And you've hit the nail on the head about what burns me up about public schools! They should be a place for LEARNING and EDUCATION -- not a babysitting service or some social welfare project. The school system would be vastly improved if they could kick out students who refuse to learn. As the schools prop up more delinquent parents, they enable MORE parents to be MORE delinquent. And the problem grows. Reversing the trend is a process and not an event. But it does require some tough love and letting the real potential to fail exist. Only when that real potential exists will people put in effort to avoid that failure.

Getting thrown out of school should be an option for any teacher to exercise. I take it you're a teacher. If you could throw out of your class any student you like, how much more effective would you be with those remaining? If a student got thrown out of enough classes that no teacher would take him, don't you think that's "enough" chances?

And using the same logic in reverse, if parents could opt out of a teacher's class or entire school because they feel the quality isn't there, that would mean competition and choice and the poor performers would become motivated to find another profession.

Again Socialism is a bad thing. The public school system is a form of Socialism.

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