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I think you are a communist in sheep's clothing. BTW, what do you think is the legal basis for which the state(sovereignty) can execute us for certain crimes?
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You want them to vote more communist minded people in like you? Ones that would keep us state property.
TSF

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If I accept the eventual $795 billion dollar annual cost figures,(and I have no present information to dispute this claim)., then that's a lot of money. We just do not have that kind of money--- unless--- we do something completely outrageous -- like end welfare to the rich. Then we would still have $405 billion dollars left over to pay down the national debt.
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Now, my question is how and who gets to pay for it all?
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Could be the problem is as simple as this.One half of the country doesn't want to live like the other half. Period. Which tends to make rational discussion moot. No one's listening to anyone else.Look at Topix. Churchill said that"jaw jaw"was better than"war war". But maybe that doesn't apply when no one is listening.
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TSF wrote:
I think you are a communist in sheep's clothing. BTW, what do you think is the legal basis for which the state(sovereignty) can execute us for certain crimes?
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You really don't expect Taxpayer to answer a valid question, do you? Good luck!
Ben

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"Congress or any state legislature may prescribe the death penalty, also known as capital punishment, for murder and other capital crimes. The Supreme Court has ruled that the death penalty is not a per se violation of the Eighth Amendment's ban on cruel and unusual punishment, but the Eighth Amendment does shape certain procedural aspects regarding when a jury may use the death penalty and how it must be carried out. Because of the Fourteenth Amendment's Due Process Clause, the Eighth Amendment applies against the states, as well as the federal government.

Eighth Amendment analysis requires that courts consider the evolving standards of decency to determine if a particular punishment constitutes a cruel or unusual punishment. When considering evolving standards of decency, courts both look for objective factors to show a change in community standards and also make independent evaluations about whether the statute in question is reasonable. The U.S. Supreme Court has determined that a penalty must be proportional to the crime; otherwise, the punishment violates the Eighth Amendment's prohibition against cruel and unusual punishments. In performing its proportionality analysis, the Supreme Court looks to the following three factors: a consideration of the offense's gravity and the stringency of the penalty; a consideration of how the jurisdiction punishes its other criminals; and a consideration of how other jurisdictions punish the same crime.

In the landmark case of Coker v. Georgia, 433 U.S. 584 (1977), the Supreme Court ruled that a state cannot apply the death penalty or the crime of raping an adult woman because it violates the proportionality requirement. The Court came to this conclusion by considering objective indicia of the nation's attitude toward the death penalty in rape cases. At the time only a few states allowed for executions of convicted rapists."
TSF

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All true. But the historical principle is that the sovereign owns all property within the sovereignty , including us. That is the basis on which the sovereign can take your life for certain transgressions. Taxpayer is allowed to SAY that 6356he owns his house, but unless he pays rent in the form of taxes , the sovereign will place another fine fellow in that house who will pay the rent (taxes).
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"Congress or any state legislature may prescribe the death penalty, also known as capital punishment, for murder and other capital crimes. The Supreme Court has ruled that the death penalty is not a per se violation of the Eighth Amendment's ban on cruel and unusual punishment, but the Eighth Amendment does shape certain procedural aspects regarding when a jury may use the death penalty and how it must be carried out. Because of the Fourteenth Amendment's Due Process Clause, the Eighth Amendment applies against the states, as well as the federal government.
Eighth Amendment analysis requires that courts consider the evolving standards of decency to determine if a particular punishment constitutes a cruel or unusual punishment. When considering evolving standards of decency, courts both look for objective factors to show a change in community standards and also make independent evaluations about whether the statute in question is reasonable. The U.S. Supreme Court has determined that a penalty must be proportional to the crime; otherwise, the punishment violates the Eighth Amendment's prohibition against cruel and unusual punishments. In performing its proportionality analysis, the Supreme Court looks to the following three factors: a consideration of the offense's gravity and the stringency of the penalty; a consideration of how the jurisdiction punishes its other criminals; and a consideration of how other jurisdictions punish the same crime.
In the landmark case of Coker v. Georgia, 433 U.S. 584 (1977), the Supreme Court ruled that a state cannot apply the death penalty or the crime of raping an adult woman because it violates the proportionality requirement. The Court came to this conclusion by considering objective indicia of the nation's attitude toward the death penalty in rape cases. At the time only a few states allowed for executions of convicted rapists."
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I recently met a Muslim from North Africa.Hard worker, nicest person you ever want to meet.Yes, it's always confusing when expectations are skewed.The world is a hard, strange place.
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TSF, got you on this one and you are WRONG. Doctors in Cuba live as pathetically as the rest of the population. I know for a fact. You can go to Cuba and they actually have very good doctors, but guess what, they have no drugs to treat you with once you're diagnosed. Yes, if you're wealthy and know someone in the government you can get decent health services. Doctors in Cuba are a sad group of people. Can you imagine having their knowledge to help others and then the government not allowing you to have the medicine to treat them? If you've ever seen a person who can barely walk because arthritis is killing them and you give just a simple bottle of aspirin or motrin and they come back crying the next day to thank you because they finally had a little relief, it's heartbreaking. People with small children hold onto a bottle of children's tylenol like it's gold to give to their children when they have a fever and maybe you can slip them an extra bottle of antibiotics for the next time their child is sick and they're trying to hide it, so it won't be taken from them. Now you tell me, it's this your idea of good healthcare. Oh, by the way the doctors I'm talking about drove cars that may have been a good car back in the 50's and this is living a good life? I don't think so.
They were excited to work along side of U.S. doctors to show their talent, and might I add in clinics with no A/C, people standing in long lines, crying babies and the triage was a tent outside to help the "ER" cases. I saw my family members covered literally in blood, sweat and tears trying to help these people. Send me your address and I'll send you pictures. The government wouldn't allow videos to be taken, wonder why???
One would think that because of these conditions in Cuba, that Ted Cruz being half Cuban would want to present his own version of a quality, affordable health care plan here in the US. Instead he "fights" to destroy a plan that is already law. I don't here him offering any plan. He and his Cuban father continue to call Obama a dictator because of Obamas use of his executive orders. George Bush in a five year span used 197 executive orders compared to Obama in the same span using only 163. Ted Cruz himself is a dictator who is in control of the evangelical mob we call the tea party.
Futhermore, what happened to Mitt Romney's great health care plan in Massachusetts. You know the one that was supposed to be the model state with the model plan for the rest of the nation?

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Oct 31, 2013
 
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One would think that because of these conditions in Cuba, that Ted Cruz being half Cuban would want to present his own version of a quality, affordable health care plan here in the US. Instead he "fights" to destroy a plan that is already law. I don't here him offering any plan. He and his Cuban father continue to call Obama a dictator because of Obamas use of his executive orders. George Bush in a five year span used 197 executive orders compared to Obama in the same span using only 163. Ted Cruz himself is a dictator who is in control of the evangelical mob we call the tea party.
Futhermore, what happened to Mitt Romney's great health care plan in Massachusetts. You know the one that was supposed to be the model state with the model plan for the rest of the nation?
Allen, my post to TSF had nothing to do with Ted Cruz, George Bush, or the Tea Party. I was pointing out that his post from personal, firsthand knowledge was not correct. Why are you asking me about Ted Cruz, Mitt Romney or George Bush's thoughts and actions?

The only thing I can speak of with limited knowledge is the healthcare debacle in the U.S. Now, if that's not enough answers for you, Ted Cruz probably has a number you can call and leave a message with a staff member and as far as George Bush and Mitt Romney, call 411, I can't help you.
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Oct 31, 2013
 
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You really don't expect Taxpayer to answer a valid question, do you? Good luck!
tsf wrote: I think you are a communist in sheep's clothing. BTW, what do you think is the legal basis for which the state (sovereignty) can execute us for certain crimes?
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You really don't expect Taxpayer to answer a valid question, do you? Good luck!

Damn, do you two not read previous posts? I explained that.
Both of you are communist minded ant-American fools. You are a threat to all people who want to live free of a fascist socialist government.
Reverend Smithers

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a fascist socialist government.
Jesus, the eternal WAY AND LIGHT, was the first socialist. Continue to vote the BIBLE, and feed the poor and hungry.

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Oct 31, 2013
 
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tsf wrote: I think you are a communist in sheep's clothing. BTW, what do you think is the legal basis for which the state (sovereignty) can execute us for certain crimes?
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You really don't expect Taxpayer to answer a valid question, do you? Good luck!
Damn, do you two not read previous posts? I explained that.
Both of you are communist minded ant-American fools. You are a threat to all people who want to live free of a fascist socialist government.
Taxpayer thought you'd enjoy this article I just read:

"Sally Jewell.

John Usher.

Ring any bells?

Didn't think so.

They're both nobodies - well, actually, they're both Secretaries of the Interior.

The difference is when Usher travelled to Gettysburg, he went with his President.

When Jewell goes this November, she'll be the headliner - her President is taking a pass.

Obama will be a no-show at the 150th anniversary of Lincoln's Gettysburg Address.

For a president who has so demonstrably associated himself with Lincoln - the heir of Lincoln's policies who announced his candidacy from the steps of the Old State Capitol in Springfield and used the Lincoln Bible (twice) at his inauguration - this is nothing less than a profile in cowardice.

In the end, Barack Obama simply didn't have the stones.

It's sad.

And telling.

History will note that Lincoln's legacy did not live up to the challenge."

Taxpayer, I found it sad that Obama couldn't take a little time to attend this ceremony. Hope he gets lockjaw if he mentions Lincoln's name again.
TSF

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There are no arthropods in my family tree and I certainly am not an ant American
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tsf wrote: I think you are a communist in sheep's clothing. BTW, what do you think is the legal basis for which the state (sovereignty) can execute us for certain crimes?
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You really don't expect Taxpayer to answer a valid question, do you? Good luck!
Damn, do you two not read previous posts? I explained that.
Both of you are communist minded ant-American fools. You are a threat to all people who want to live free of a fascist socialist government.

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Jesus, the eternal WAY AND LIGHT, was the first socialist. Continue to vote the BIBLE, and feed the poor and hungry.
Read the Bible where it says if a man doesn't work, he shouldn't eat. Jesus, the Man that knew people should work. Nowhere did He say wait for your food stamps and welfare checks SO you can eat.
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With the rich getting $1200 billion per year in welfare for not working and the poor , disabled, young and old getting $850 billion in welfare, would the words of Jesus apply to the rich and poor or just the poor?
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Read the Bible where it says if a man doesn't work, he shouldn't eat. Jesus, the Man that knew people should work. Nowhere did He say wait for your food stamps and welfare checks SO you can eat.
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Oct 31, 2013
 
Should we allow oil companies to take a tax deduction also available to any U.S. manufacturer such as Apple or Microsoft?
Ben

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Oct 31, 2013
 
Should farmers be allowed a fuel tax exemption for the fuel they use on the farm?
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Oct 31, 2013
 
Should we subsidize oil companies?
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#43934
Oct 31, 2013
 
Should we fund programs like the Low Income Home Energy Assistance Program (HEAP) that help low-income families with their heating bills?
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"Unless you answered “ No” to all four questions you support programs that have been specifically identified as fossil fuel subsidies." Not as easy as you think, cutting "welfare to the rich". Someone will pay a price and probably not who you think.http://www.forbes.com/si tes/energysource/2012/04/25/th e-surprising-reason-that-oil-s ubsidies-persist-even-liberals -love-them/

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