674 Gaston School employees wonder if...

674 Gaston School employees wonder if they'll have jobs...

There are 33 comments on the www.gastongazette.com story from Jun 9, 2009, titled 674 Gaston School employees wonder if they'll have jobs.... In it, www.gastongazette.com reports that:

"I told them I do them I'd do everything I can to bring them back," Grimmer said.

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Thy Bard

Charlotte, NC

#21 Jun 12, 2009
The lottery has been used to supply the latest rounds of "initiatives" from the school system. All the improving over the past 10 years has been funded through this fund. Also, it is my understanding the funds have been raided for other uses also same as the highway fund.

Yes, the lottery has not solved all the problems, we you live in a consumer society the tendency to throw money at a problem is obvious.

We will find as always money is not the KEY variable in change, that would be human will power.

NO WAY, can you dance with the devil and expect good things will happen and bad things not.

When you sin, don't expect to educate your child at the same time.

Wine Head

Cherryville, NC

#22 Jun 12, 2009
That is what we are saying,Leave us the teachers and get rid of the Coaches.
Thy Bard

Charlotte, NC

#23 Jun 12, 2009
Wine mocketh a mocker!

We do need some coaches. But it is definitely an area worthy of study.

Reducing the cost of providing sports programs.
CheerMom

Arrington, TN

#24 Jun 13, 2009
Greed is the root of all EVIL!
Tyrone Shoelaces

United States

#25 Jun 14, 2009
You aint seen nothing yet! their trying to bring back video poker! With all of peoples money going to alcohol,tabacco,lottery and poker,its no wonder that were in the shape were in! Theres no money left to keep the big wheel rolling.People cant pay their bills or put money back into circulation. Children,pets and even teachers suffer. The list goes on.
Veteran teacher

Rockingham, NC

#26 Jun 19, 2009
For those that have not been in the classroom for years. Your class sizes in Belmont are already too large. On average we have 28-30 kids in our classroom. As for coaches, most your assistant coaches don't get paid. If you cut sports, you will see a major increase in drop outs. So support them now or later, YOUR choice. The state of North Carolina has to step up. Education has been on the back burner for so long, no wonder they are so far behind everyone else. Including their teacher pay scale. Get it together NC.

There are a lot of pointless positions in GCS. I would start there.

Maybe if we could charge $.25 per negative or someone whining about something on here and donate that to the Belmont schools. We would be rich.
Thy Bard

Charlotte, NC

#27 Jun 19, 2009
Veteran teacher wrote:
For those that have not been in the classroom for years. Your class sizes in Belmont are already too large. On average we have 28-30 kids in our classroom. As for coaches, most your assistant coaches don't get paid. If you cut sports, you will see a major increase in drop outs. So support them now or later, YOUR choice. The state of North Carolina has to step up. Education has been on the back burner for so long, no wonder they are so far behind everyone else. Including their teacher pay scale. Get it together NC.
There are a lot of pointless positions in GCS. I would start there.
Maybe if we could charge $.25 per negative or someone whining about something on here and donate that to the Belmont schools. We would be rich.
You have little credibility when you start the first post with inaccuracies. I guess you could be right about the class sizes and the State, County and LEA could be wrong. But I'll stick with their numbers.

The government has grown too large and too fat. This includes the schools and one only has to look at the economy to realize this reality.

The school systems are poster children for bloat with all their WONDERFUL NEW IDEAS when they should be concentrating on education.

Hate to inform but the backlash is coming for the forwardness and intrusion upon the most sacred of human responsibilities, parenthood.
justsayin

Charlotte, NC

#28 Jun 19, 2009
I do have to say that the numbers that the state and LEA report are skewed.

They report the average class size, which you think would be pretty accurate. However, if a grade level is overloaded then that grade level could have 30-32 kids in a class while the other grades are sitting with 22-25 or so. This never gets discovered because they only look at the total teachers divided by the total number of kids.

There are a lot of "middle management" positions whose work could be split between upper administration and classroom teachers. This would save money and keep the kids from being impacted.
Thy Bard

Charlotte, NC

#29 Jun 20, 2009
Last time I checked Gaston LEA stood at 18 per class.

Yes, the "ratio" does not detail every class nor is it intended. It is a yardstick brought to measure against other LEAs. Usually, private schools work with a half dozen less.

The answer of performance has little to do with a class having 15 students or 25 students or even 35 students. It is in levering resources. Specifically technology.

I agree with the middle management positions which I cannot see what half of them do all day anyway (with exceptions-of course-SPHS).

If I were a teacher, I would spend my summer vacation absorbing the entire line of Google products. This is cloud computing and its applications are the basis for everything coming next.

Since: Jun 09

Wingate, NC

#30 Jun 22, 2009
Our thoughts and prayers are with you all.
Belmont Belle

Charlotte, NC

#31 Jun 26, 2009
belmontboy wrote:
What if....
What if the county schools system only laid off teachers so they could draw unemployment over the summer months, since summer school will not be in session due to budget cuts... just food for thought.
I agree, teachers should not be cut. Cut administrators, cut admin salaries, cut sports, but don't cut teachers.
I am one of the teachers who have been laid off. Just wanted to let you know that I cannot draw unemployment because I have a contract with the county that doesn't expire until Aug. This is typical for most teachers in the county. So, I will not even be able to get the unemployment process started until my contract is up. I plan on looking to private schools if I do not get a call back soon. Thanks for your comments, I hope this clarifies the situation a little more.
Belmont Belle

Charlotte, NC

#32 Jun 26, 2009
Thy Bard wrote:
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You have little credibility when you start the first post with inaccuracies. I guess you could be right about the class sizes and the State, County and LEA could be wrong. But I'll stick with their numbers.
The government has grown too large and too fat. This includes the schools and one only has to look at the economy to realize this reality.
The school systems are poster children for bloat with all their WONDERFUL NEW IDEAS when they should be concentrating on education.
Hate to inform but the backlash is coming for the forwardness and intrusion upon the most sacred of human responsibilities, parenthood.
I'm also a teacher in Gaston County. I just wanted to agree that the average class size at my school is between 28-32. Every school is different, but my school lost 14 teachers so this number will definitely rise.
Thy Bard

Charlotte, NC

#33 Jun 26, 2009
Ya'll are stuck on class size and its not a good number to get stuck on. It is also why the counterpoint to staff cuts has not gained ground. It is why Bev's tax increase is not gaining ground.

If someone could actually address the actual class sizes then perhaps but until then, the People ain't buying it.

Believe me, they are smarter than they look, the Peoples, that is, their wisdom continually surprises me.

As a teacher I would not think you would have difficulty in finding another school, but private schools generally pay less.

The pay schedule and how some take 12 months pay in nine is more of a personal situation. You are being paid until the end of your contract.

Remember, a lot of teachers will be called back. And it is a numbers game, but also remember, they have to re-structure the system. The curriculum is gonna be changed, drastically changed in the near future.

The ax must fall, even if painful. Its a lesson in the real world. Its not pretty out there, but at least you have your health.

I mean, your employer has caused me my share of grief also.

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