Push renewed to end Indian mascots in...

Push renewed to end Indian mascots in North Carolina

There are 56 comments on the The Asheville Citizen-Times story from Dec 6, 2009, titled Push renewed to end Indian mascots in North Carolina. In it, The Asheville Citizen-Times reports that:

Dozens of North Carolina public schools have given the boot to their Indian mascots, but at least 38 schools still hold on to their Braves, Chiefs, Redskins and the like.

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Moe

Morganton, NC

#41 Jan 9, 2010
Larry wrote:
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Hookers women's belly buttons stick out farther than his tool... talk on the street says so...
And Hooker's women ain't no place to be sticking your tongue, unless you like sucking every tool in town....
You should know all about it no doubt.
pudgy

Vancouver, Canada

#42 Jan 9, 2010
May I suggest a new mascot for UNCA? How about the inbred hillbillies?

Maybe the drunken moonshiners?

How about the sister-raping bare-foots?
tiredofliberals

Yadkinville, NC

#43 Jan 9, 2010
Boy, this site has become a posting site for anything except insulting names of school mascots, hasn't it? If that were really as important as some of you claimed in your first posts, you've certainly taken the seriousness of what you claimed was a problem or an insult to Native Americans and trashed that theory. You've made the whole situation trivial and laughable. That's a shame.
Bruce Lloyd

Boone, NC

#44 Jan 9, 2010
Zonga wrote:
Well the "Banana Slug" is already taken. That's right, University of California Santa Cruz has a slimy banana yellow slug for a mascot.
Eat your heart out.
Here are a few more mascot names already taken:
Go Team!
1. UC Santa Cruz Banana Slugs
2. The University of Hawaii Rainbow Warriors
3. The NYU Violets
4. The MIT Engineers
5. Pace (University) Setters
6. St. Louis College of Pharmacy Eutectics
7. The Long Beach State Dirtbags
8. Grays Harbor College Chokers
9. The University of Evansville Purple Aces
10. Evergreen State College Geoducks
I know, it's too bad that "Dirtbags" is already taken too...
Well, the University of Maryland's team is the "Terrapins"! A sports team named after turtles is more amusing than offensive. Especially when you think about how they've been playing. Or, is that a comment on their intellectual achievements; slow as a turtle?
jumbob

Laurinburg, NC

#45 Jan 9, 2010
How about a team named after the marsupial mouse Antechinus? It is a carnivore so it can be feared by the opposition. And:
"...an individual will usually only live long enough to breed once in its lifetime... in order to ensure breeding success, male antechinuses strip their body of vital proteins and also suppress the immune system so as to free up additional metabolic energy. In this way an individual male trades away long-term survival in return for short-term breeding success, and following the breeding season there is a complete die-off of physiologically exhausted males. Breeding is intensely competitive. Males produce large amounts of testosterone and mate-guarding occurs in the form of protracted copulation (up to twelve hours in some species)."

Now THAT is an admirable mascot. Wish our politicians would follow it's example after THEIR breeding frenzies.

Since: Feb 07

Weaverville, NC

#46 Jan 16, 2010
tiredofliberals wrote:
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You are right. I asked my friend who is proud of her Cherokee heritage to explain to me why Irwin or any other school should get rid of their mascots or team names. I asked her if the word, squaw, were really offensive. She knew the man who had started the complaints years ago at Irwin, and she actually lives just a few miles from that school. She had been disgusted about the entire incident. She told me that "squaw" can be used both lovingly and as a slur. Its meaning depends entirely on how it is said, as well as who says it and to whom it is said. Example: the word that some African Americans use to refer to their friends isn't resented when it is used by one of the same race, but it is considered more than terrible if someone white uses it. My friend and many more of her own friends were upset that this man had caused so much trouble about the school mascot and its team names. They did not like the negative way the incident reflected on themselves. Yes, Hooker Jones, you're right about the demographic of Irwin, too. Its student body is very definitely composed of many races; it is not a "white" school. I wish more people thought as wisely as you do.
Finally someone who actually comprehends what is going on.The "gentleman" and I use that term loosely,who began this movement here,originally was employed by several medical facilities locally but was fired due to his lack of skills and the fact that he could cause harm to others.He tried then to make a race issue out of that and failed miserably.The same thing happened when he was let go due to his lack of skills on the reservation,again he tried to bring race into it.Never ONCE has this gentleman taken into consideration that his work ethic or the fact that his drug/alcohol use could get him fired.SO he struck back the only way he knew how.By going out west and joining other renegades for lack of a better term, who mean to defile and tear down every shred of decency that exists between our local schools.
It has NOTHING to do with the names being native american.Every race black,white,native american,hispanic,etc.each one have different pet nicknames for their significant others.To some they may seem crude and outlandish.To others and themselves they are endearing terms.NOT derogatory or condasending in the least.BUT IF USED by another race speaking TO another race it could be construed that way.Unless it is an interracial couple.But back to this "gentleman.He was run out of Cherokee,because of his prolific habit of lying etc.I cannot elaborate on that.Nor is he welcome in several other surrounding counties.He is a class A troublemaker personally known by many.He couldn't start anything here so he went away and tried to bring it back with him.

Since: Feb 07

Weaverville, NC

#47 Jan 16, 2010
fastsam wrote:
<quoted text>Get a grip my friend, you are starting to sound like another group wanting entitlements. This is America now. This is a country that was founded and has worked for over two hundred years. It is a country where people have risked their lives to get here just for a chance at that thing called freedom. Have we made mistakes along the way? Sure we did, but we learned and moved on. Nobody owes anybody anything, I don't care if you are white, black, red or yellow. This is the land of opportunity, not the land of hand-outs. I have enough Cherokee blood to get a check but I will be damned if I would take a dime. I have something no one could ever take from me. It is called PRIDE.
JUST A QUICK HELLO SAM.COULDN'T GET BACK IN UNDER OLD NUCK GENUINENATIVE SO HAD TO come BACK AS ETSIDOYEHI.Either way its me.:-)

Since: Feb 07

Weaverville, NC

#48 Jan 16, 2010
Still can't speel......nick that is....
tiredofliberals

Yadkinville, NC

#49 Jan 16, 2010
etsidoyehi wrote:
<quoted text>Finally someone who actually comprehends what is etsigoing on.The "gentleman" and I use that term loosely,who began this movement here,originally was employed by several medical facilities locally but was fired due to his lack of skills and the fact that he could cause harm to others.He tried then to make a race issue out of that and failed miserably.The same thing happened when he was let go due to his lack of skills on the reservation,again he tried to bring race into it.Never ONCE has this gentleman taken into consideration that his work ethic or the fact that his drug/alcohol use could get him fired.SO he struck back the only way he knew how.By going out west and joining other renegades for lack of a better term, who mean to defile and tear down every shred of decency that exists between our local schools.
It has NOTHING to do with the names being native american.Every race black,white,native american,hispanic,etc.each one have different pet nicknames for their significant others.To some they may seem crude and outlandish.To others and themselves they are endearing terms.NOT derogatory or condasending in the least.BUT IF USED by another race speaking TO another race it could be construed that way.Unless it is an interracial couple.But back to this "gentleman.He was run out of Cherokee,because of his prolific habit of lying etc.I cannot elaborate on that.Nor is he welcome in several other surrounding counties.He is a class A troublemaker personally known by many.He couldn't start anything here so he went away and tried to bring it back with him.
I found your reply to my post very interesting. I first heard about this "gentleman's" push to force schools to change the names they used for their mascots and teams months before I moved to the mountains. I thought then that this nut( For the sake of efficiency, I will use this more terse, more accurate, more descriptive term when referring to this power-hungry, self-serving, lazy liar from now on. You're kinder than I, etsidoyehi.) I thought then that he was using the public for his own benefit. When I became friends with several wonderful people who share the Cherokee heritage, I questioned them about it. Each one shared the same feelings as I had about this nut. It's amazing that everyone can't see these renegades for what they are. My mother's family took in a young Cherokee man who lived with them for several years until he was killed. I vaguely remember this man's playing with me when I was just a child. He was killed in an accident when he was still young. At any rate, this is why I have always been eager to learn about the Cherokee people. I am glad this troublemaker was run out of Cherokee. Your post lets me know that he is even worse than I had thought. I am glad you responded to my earlier post. Wa do.
Donadagovi Unalii.
tiredofliberals

Yadkinville, NC

#50 Jan 16, 2010
fastsam wrote:
<quoted text>Get a grip my friend, you are starting to sound like another group wanting entitlements. This is America now. This is a country that was founded and has worked for over two hundred years. It is a country where people have risked their lives to get here just for a chance at that thing called freedom. Have we made mistakes along the way? Sure we did, but we learned and moved on. Nobody owes anybody anything, I don't care if you are white, black, red or yellow. This is the land of opportunity, not the land of hand-outs. I have enough Cherokee blood to get a check but I will be damned if I would take a dime. I have something no one could ever take from me. It is called PRIDE.
It is so good to know someone feels this way about handouts and refuses to take a check simply because he could qualify for it. Your post is enlightening, and I wish that all of the welfare- using lazy people in our country would suddenly feel as you do and start supporting themselves. I, too, would refuse to allow someone else to support me with anything I had not personally earned myself. Pride is a good thing, and too many people have none. Good post.

Since: Feb 07

Location hidden

#51 Jan 16, 2010
etsidoyehi wrote:
<quoted text>Finally someone who actually comprehends what is going on.The "gentleman" and I use that term loosely,who began this movement here,originally was employed by several medical facilities locally but was fired due to his lack of skills and the fact that he could cause harm to others.He tried then to make a race issue out of that and failed miserably.The same thing happened when he was let go due to his lack of skills on the reservation,again he tried to bring race into it.Never ONCE has this gentleman taken into consideration that his work ethic or the fact that his drug/alcohol use could get him fired.SO he struck back the only way he knew how.By going out west and joining other renegades for lack of a better term, who mean to defile and tear down every shred of decency that exists between our local schools.
It has NOTHING to do with the names being native american.Every race black,white,native american,hispanic,etc.each one have different pet nicknames for their significant others.To some they may seem crude and outlandish.To others and themselves they are endearing terms.NOT derogatory or condasending in the least.BUT IF USED by another race speaking TO another race it could be construed that way.Unless it is an interracial couple.But back to this "gentleman.He was run out of Cherokee,because of his prolific habit of lying etc.I cannot elaborate on that.Nor is he welcome in several other surrounding counties.He is a class A troublemaker personally known by many.He couldn't start anything here so he went away and tried to bring it back with him.
Was his name Ghostdog?

Since: Feb 07

Weaverville, NC

#52 Jan 16, 2010
fastsam wrote:
<quoted text>Was his name Ghostdog?
That has been a few years ago but he went by quite a few nicks when he logged online.Two-Eagles rings a bell.
Carlos

United States

#53 Jan 16, 2010
If it was GhostDog, " two dogs f-in " sounds more like it !
sharon

Townsend, GA

#54 Jan 26, 2010
BillyGoatGruff wrote:
I always thought using the American Indian terms and names were the height of paying homage.
This goes with the "I'm honoring you", syndrome.
Very incorrect. Redskins origianated due to the bounty paid for any Native that was skinned. The bodies were to heavy to bring in after the women,men,children,elders were murdered.So,just the skins. Then they were used to make lamp shades and horse reigns. Andrew Jackson is such an example of the type of person that did this. So....no....that is not paying homage. It is not an honor.
Same with the "S" name. Female anatomy is not an honor.
Now if this issue is from so long ago....then why did John McCain write a bill that was quietly signed into law in 1997 to remove 12,000 women,men, children, elders off of their ancestorial land so that Peabody Coal compnay could make even more money? This should be an easy answer. If a race is belittled long enough....thought of less that human, then someone with another putpose in mind can get away with their actions. Greed will do it everytime. So...the mascot issue should be ended.Stop using us for mascots. We are not like Uga.....the bulldog.We ARE a proud people.
Stop calling us names. If you truely wanted to "honor" us.....then respect would be a great place to start. After respect then would follow understanding.After understanding,would come reasoning.
Followed by attempts for change of behavior. After a successful change of behavior.....there would be no more talk of such things.

Since: Apr 07

Asheville N.C.

#55 Jan 26, 2010
sharon wrote:
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This goes with the "I'm honoring you", syndrome.
Very incorrect. Redskins origianated due to the bounty paid for any Native that was skinned. The bodies were to heavy to bring in after the women,men,children,elders were murdered.So,just the skins. Then they were used to make lamp shades and horse reigns. Andrew Jackson is such an example of the type of person that did this. So....no....that is not paying homage. It is not an honor.
Same with the "S" name. Female anatomy is not an honor.
Now if this issue is from so long ago....then why did John McCain write a bill that was quietly signed into law in 1997 to remove 12,000 women,men, children, elders off of their ancestorial land so that Peabody Coal compnay could make even more money? This should be an easy answer. If a race is belittled long enough....thought of less that human, then someone with another putpose in mind can get away with their actions. Greed will do it everytime. So...the mascot issue should be ended.Stop using us for mascots. We are not like Uga.....the bulldog.We ARE a proud people.
Stop calling us names. If you truely wanted to "honor" us.....then respect would be a great place to start. After respect then would follow understanding.After understanding,would come reasoning.
Followed by attempts for change of behavior. After a successful change of behavior.....there would be no more talk of such things.
Then Cherokee HS in the Quala Boundary should drop Braves, right ??

I'll not argue the meaning of Squaw it's missuse, it's to easy to google and learn the truth.

Since: Nov 09

Jacksonville, IL

#56 Jan 26, 2010
fastsam wrote:
<quoted text>Was his name Ghostdog?
It more likely was "Yona", he is always claiming his connections to Cherokee and supposedly left after "selling" a convenience store, would fit his profile!

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