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Jennifer

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Currently my husband and I live in Vancouver/ Portland area. My husband is a train conductor for Burlington Northern and is going to be in Spokane for the next six months training to be a train engineer, well since Spokane will turn into his home terminal for 4 years we are thinking about moving there. Both of us are outdoor loving people, water, mountains, snow, hiking you name it we love it. I would like to know the pro’s and cons of the Spokane area! What is the best area to live in there?

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Personally I find Spokane Valley to be the best area as far as a more relaxed atmosphere, less traffic congestion than Spokane but plenty of shopping, etc... It's beautiful out here!
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I'm a Portlander myself, now a Spokane transplant. Here are my pros and cons:

Pros: sun almost every day for seven months a year; homes are about 2/3 what they would cost in Portland; good public schools in neighborhoods you can afford; you can actually buy land here; five nearby ski resorts with better snow than Mt. Hood; you can bike to work without risking your life; the fall colors in town are incredible; if you're a liberal, you can actually make a difference here; Spokane is blossoming into cityhood as Portland did three decades ago, and it's fund to be part of that; being relatively close to the Canadian Rockies, The North Cascades and Montana is a fine thing.

Cons: you're a looong way from real cities here; conservative religious people run the joint, plain and simple; rednecks yell and wave their middle fingers at bicyclists (you can guess which side of this transaction I'm usually on); most people here are even more reluctant to extend friendship than Portlanders are, amazing as that is; there is a tough shabbiness across Spokane that Portlanders only find in certain parts of the East Side; you will miss Oregon beaches; forget about artsy movies; grocers and farmer's markets here absolutely suck.
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Jennifer wrote:
Currently my husband and I live in Vancouver/ Portland area. My husband is a train conductor for Burlington Northern and is going to be in Spokane for the next six months training to be a train engineer, well since Spokane will turn into his home terminal for 4 years we are thinking about moving there. Both of us are outdoor loving people, water, mountains, snow, hiking you name it we love it. I would like to know the pro’s and cons of the Spokane area! What is the best area to live in there?
this is a great place to live and raise a family, you will hear alot of negative but most people love it hear. Iam a Seattle transplant and I love it.
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mike wrote:
<quoted text>this is a great place to live and raise a family, you will hear alot of negative but most people love it hear. Iam a Seattle transplant and I love it.
I love it here as well. I'm afraid my "balanced" assessment above came off harsher than it was intended to.

As for best places to live, that depends on what you can afford. The West end of South Hill is charming, affluent and leafy, much like Portland Heights. The North End/Wandermere area is newer, with view neighborhoods, big houses and great schools. The Valley is laid back and affordable. Liberty Lake is the currently hot neighborhood, all new and going rapidly upscale. CDA is beautiful, but costly and far away.
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run (away)!
Dirty Bird

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There are too many people here already.
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Jennifer wrote:
Currently my husband and I live in Vancouver/ Portland area. My husband is a train conductor for Burlington Northern and is going to be in Spokane for the next six months training to be a train engineer, well since Spokane will turn into his home terminal for 4 years we are thinking about moving there. Both of us are outdoor loving people, water, mountains, snow, hiking you name it we love it. I would like to know the pro’s and cons of the Spokane area! What is the best area to live in there?
I wouldn't come if I were you, the city is full of racist people. The town is part of the government's Federal Witness Protection Program, as such, you would discover strange things happening to your piracy. The city hates business owners and does not encourage new dynamic business adventures, the business sector is controlled by old money with old ideas (the city is not allowed to ‘Seattlizes’ and grow, the judicial system is controlled continuously in a state of ‘conflict of interests’ by Gonzaga Law School Graduates everybody knows everybody else in the courts and they all work against you if you try to change things in Spokane, oh, you better never talk bad about Gonzaga. The police here are racist, the housing market is ballooning because the rush from California, the town is a ‘who-you-know’ to get a job type of place to the 5th power, you don’t know no one you don’t get a job. The nightlife is a joke, there are no radio stations allowed in Spokane unless you like junk, the city hates diversity. If you are an inner-racial couple you are not welcome and if you are a minority couple you are not welcome. Everybody is in everybody’s business so you must stay in your house with the doors locked!

But other than these facts Spokane is quiet…the city does not grow, so if your family comes, that means someone else and their family MUST leave!

,..don't say someone didn't warn you!
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Some unusual comments above: I've ridden my bike all over the area the past ten years and I've never encountered rednecks raising their middle fingers at cyclists. About once per week I am asked for directions to find local places - always friendly!

The area is not filled with racists (an image perpetrated by the Aryan Nations which moved to N Idaho from southern California, originally, and which has since disappeared). Both of my white daughters have best friends who are black; a son is dating a young woman of Japanese ancestry. None have experienced racist taunts.

Predominant ethnic minorities include Native Americans, and Russian and Ukrainian immigrants. About 7% or so of the Spokane Valley speaks Russian or Ukrainian. This is a very different mix than what you find in the coastal cities.

On the pros - a very good place to raise families. Heavy traffic of the type found in the coastal metro areas is non existent. Smog is non existent except for occasional field burning fires in August.

Housing is much less costly than the coastal cities (and is just starting to fall in price here, as it already has been doing on the coast).

Our local schools have been excellent; most of the schools are very good (there are some exceptions, as there are in any community). I have volunteered in 3 high schools and 1 middle school and am super impressed by the enthusiasm and hard work of both staff and students.

That said there are legitimate "cons" - it is a big "small town". If you like the hustle and bustle of a big city down town, you won't find that here. If you like a life style that is laid back - but with relatively good access to many big city activities (shows, airport, etc)- then Spokane is a good place.

Spokane and Coeur d'Alene are pretty much out here on their own. This is not big metro city surrounded more big cities. But again, it doesn't have the hassles of the huge cities either.

If you like access to natural surroundings - that is excellent here. Spokane is sometimes referred to as being the most western city at the base of the Rockies. Its not technically correct but it is all mountains from here east to the Rockies.

On the cons, the city of Spokane has a long history of dim witted politicians, often owned and controlled by the Cowles family. The Cowles family goes back over 130 years or so, owns the local paper monopoly, owns a TV station - and has a documented history of running out of town those who disagreed with their own business goals. Their company has enormous real estate holdings throughout Spokane County - and through their political influence set zoning laws to benefit themselves. The Cowles family power may be waning as their local newspaper shrinks into oblivion.

Their remaining businesses paper (paper mill and forest products) are also under pressure from the collapse of the newsprint/newspaper industry.

Crime rates are about the same as the rest of the state.

In terms of jobs, the big ones are health care, education, government (USAF, federal, state and local government jobs), and agriculture. The tech sector - so big in Portland/Vancouver and Seattle is largely non-existent here. There is a hard working and excellent blue collar work force in the trades and running businesses like metal fabrication, construction, and heavy equipment.

Salaries are lower in Spokane than in Seattle (except for health care, education and government).

If you like a place that is a lot drier than the coast, yet has most big city amenities without the traffic, long lines, and big city hassles, you my enjoy this area quite a bit. If you really want a big big city, then you probably won't be happy in Spokane.
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All true, but you've left out the revolving door at the "Nervous Hospital".

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Tim John wrote:
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I wouldn't come if I were you, the city is full of racist people. The town is part of the government's Federal Witness Protection Program, as such, you would discover strange things happening to your piracy. The city hates business owners and does not encourage new dynamic business adventures, the business sector is controlled by old money with old ideas (the city is not allowed to ‘Seattlizes’ and grow, the judicial system is controlled continuously in a state of ‘conflict of interests’ by Gonzaga Law School Graduates everybody knows everybody else in the courts and they all work against you if you try to change things in Spokane, oh, you better never talk bad about Gonzaga. The police here are racist, the housing market is ballooning because the rush from California, the town is a ‘who-you-know’ to get a job type of place to the 5th power, you don’t know no one you don’t get a job. The nightlife is a joke, there are no radio stations allowed in Spokane unless you like junk, the city hates diversity. If you are an inner-racial couple you are not welcome and if you are a minority couple you are not welcome. Everybody is in everybody’s business so you must stay in your house with the doors locked!
But other than these facts Spokane is quiet…the city does not grow, so if your family comes, that means someone else and their family MUST leave!
,..don't say someone didn't warn you!
I feel sorry for you. You sound like a very sad, bitter person. I hope things look up for you in this new year.
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The best way is to come up here and visit. See how you are treated and how people react to you. I can assure you you will be impressed with the people. Many railroad people live here. I am sure your husband can get a lot of information from his fellow workers. I would suggest living on the north side - it's a lot closer to the outdoor things you like to do.
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Be careful of Spokane...especially walking by cars...don't touch them...Jay Olsen (possibly Kate as well) might shoot you in the back of the head as you run for cover....
Kate

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Im thinkingthis guy needs serious help.
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Kate is a great example of why no one should move to Spokane. Jay Olsen is another. Ignorant, lying cowards. Please chose to live elsewhere, unless you have a bulletproof vest and helmet, because Jay Olsen is still roaming the streets of Spokane...Reply to this Kate if you know I am right!
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Pissed off sounds like he has an issue with cops, Kate. I actually know Jay and find him rather commical at times, a real genuine guy. He doesnt need to go on camera like this Shonto guy and have a bunch of attention. Jay is mostly just, well, Jay. He has nothing to prove, and his friends and family will always be just that, family and friends.
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Tim John must have read my mind.
Spokane is a totally awesome place to raise your children to fear people who are not conservative whites.
Yes, "things get done around here in that manner, because that's the way it's always been done."

That's probably the best way to sum up Spokane...but, if you like that kind of thing, then I suggest you pack up everything and move....you'll fit right in with everyone else, then.
Kate

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SInce John had a sex change and became Mary LOL. She CAN read his mind.
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As long as Kate lives in Spokane I wouldn't move here. She's Nuts
Kate

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Whatever you say, you obviously have a need for attention. You cant even stay under one name, you jump all over the place with several names having conversations with yourself.

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