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There are 108 comments on the News on 6 Tulsa story from May 30, 2009, titled Chelsea Pharmacy Defends OKC Man's Actions - NewsOn6.com - Tuls.... In it, News on 6 Tulsa reports that:

Jerome Ersland shot and killed a 16-year-old who was attempting to rob his pharmacy May 19.

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ThePatriot

United States

#1 May 30, 2009
I have been robbed three times at gun point.
And she is right, You never know how your going to react to having a gun put in your face. Knowing that the fool on the other end of it could pull the trigger at any moment and forever change everything.

I am fully prepared to defend myself at any and all times. It is a comforting feeling to know that.
Tammy

United States

#2 May 30, 2009
I certainly agree, Patriot! No-one knows how they would react.

No charges should be filed on the Okla City pharmacist. Especially a first degree murder charge. However, the other three suspects should be. It was their actions that caused the pharmacist's reaction.
Looking ahead

Tulsa, OK

#3 May 30, 2009
I hope everyone that posts on this subject at least watches the tape from the the pharmacy before they comment. The robber that died was unarmed laying in the floor for quite awhile before the pharmacist shot him 5 times in the stomach. Maybe adrenaline the pharmacist was feeling makes this morally ok but I doubt that it does legally. I do not feel sorry for the robbers who should never had been there. I do feel sorry for the pharmacist who will at the very least have many legal fees and perhaps some loss of freedom. I wish he hadn't crossed the counter to shoot the robber and we would all be calling him a hero right now instead of trying to figure out if he is guilty of murder.
WASP

Muldrow, OK

#4 May 30, 2009
I haven't seen the video. But my elderly dad, bro, and I were talking about this incident a few hrs ago. We agreed the pharmacist lost his cool... but then who can say what one would do when you've been threatened with a gun? Dad said anyone that commits robbery with a gun ought to be prepared to die...
jewel

United States

#5 May 31, 2009
I don't have to try to figure out if he is guilty of murder. I do not believe he is guilty of murder. He is disabled but he still went to work to make an honest living. Now four others who did not believe in work, but felt as though something was owed to them decided to go into a business with children, women and a disabled man and point a gun at their heads and demanded money and drug. The only thing I can say is the pharmacist was hot, they drew first he shot. Having a gun put in your face can put you in a mind set that a lot of people do not understand.
It made me sick to hear how Prater talked about the child who was shot by an innocent man just doing his job. Prater just gave every meth monkey, gang banger, sleeze what they wanted. The fact they is going to side on the side of the criminals. HE is a horrible DA and I know this is the end of his career and so does he.

Since: Mar 09

Tulsa, OK

#6 May 31, 2009
I agree the man had to protect him self yes. That man did the right thing you see all the robberies in Tulsa in all around OKlahoma. So he did the right thing.
Oh No

United States

#7 May 31, 2009
Age has nothing to do with it. If you are old enought to engage in adult activities then take your lumps like an adult.
This man is NOT guilty of murder and a jury will never convict him.
Come on Oklahoma p[ass the laws that will protect its citizens, but the DA won't uphold them. Elect a new DA
Priceless

Bixby, OK

#8 May 31, 2009
It is a miscarriage of justice that the pharmacist was charged in this incident. What a lame judge that was probably just trying to look good. The only reason the man was charged was because he was WHITE.
Priceless

Bixby, OK

#9 May 31, 2009
And then when I found out that this was the same pharmacy where the people were beaten with a hammer and nearly killed, justified 100% that what he did was right. Our system is skewed for the criminals and they know it.
Merlin

Broken Arrow, OK

#10 May 31, 2009
Why have we become a nation, where we are always "sorry" when a bad guy gets what he should? I didn't tell that man to walk in and try to take something that wasn't his. I was raised poor...my house was always clean, and we got by as we could. I never used my lot in life for an excuse to take from others what wasn't mine. I went to school, got a job, and learned to survive. I got my little azz kicked when I needed it, and we didn't call it child abuse. I'm far better off today BECAUSE I had the upbringing I did. Life is way too short to have a "pity party" for someone who uses his or her childhood as an excuse. You choose to live outside the system, you choose the results of your actions. I'm NOT sorry that man was shot and killed. I'm only sorry his cohorts did not get shot, also. They will go to trial, get sentenced, and be back out before we know it. All business owners need to obtain a permit to carry, and attend a competent gun class. Let these bad guys know there is nowhere left to run. If enough of us stand together and just say "NO MORE" not in my store, and not in my neighborhood, this kind of thing will stop. We have a neighborhood watch program where I live, and it works! Call your local law enforcement, they will be happy to asisst you in setting up your own system. You do not have to carry a weapon, to avoid being a victim!....If you want it to change, get involved!
some guy

Oklahoma City, OK

#11 May 31, 2009
I for one am glad that Ersland shot and killed that robber. Its just too bad that he didn't get the other one. As for shooting him while he was down good for him now that SOB won't be coming to my house or your house to rob us after he got out of the hospital. I wish more people who are victims of armed robbery could have the chance to shoot and kill the scum who thinks that they have the right to do whatever they want. It use to be that if you were being robbed that you should just comply and the punks would take what they want and leave, now however even if you comply they will still beat and/or kill you just for fun. Once again I sure am glad that at least one less piece of sht is off of the street.
Crime should not pay

Broken Arrow, OK

#12 May 31, 2009
I am sad for the pharmacist. He went to work and 4 losers come in to rob. If you want to be a thief and carry guns and threaten others then you deserve what you get. Regardless of your age - you made a choice to go and do something illegal and it's time the hard working citizens fight back. The lawyers and the judges let the criminals back on the streets to do it again - let's get rid of the the drug dealers, murder's, thieves, etc. They are wasting our air... They have more rights than hard working citizens this is just wrong. I hope the pharmacist is let go and can go back to work and he and his family find peace. AS for the 16 year old - you got what you deserved to bad the other 3 did not get the same.
LeeAnn

Broken Arrow, OK

#13 May 31, 2009
After looking at the video of the OKC Pharmacist shooting the man five more times after he was on the ground I thought 'the guy was already down, that's alittle excessive' but soon realized the man was in fear for his life and should be able to protect himself and the others working in the pharmacy. Are we to just roll over why we are being threated? Look at the Chelsey pharmacy workers. The did exactly as told and still got hurt.

I say if you are in fear for your life then shoot, shoot again and again.
Joe Allen Doty in Tulsa

Haskell, OK

#14 May 31, 2009
The pharmacist over reacted by shooting the guy too many times. But, that reminds me of the infantry soldiers in South Vietnam who overreacted when they captured the enemy there.
pour boy

Broken Arrow, OK

#16 May 31, 2009
this is a bunch ofs***.IF THE ROBBER HAD LIVED he would shoot first next time.the man did the right thing.now that bum wont be robbing or endangering anyone else.let someone stick a gun in the judges or the da.a.face and see how the react.let them see how it feels.
Ron B

Broken Arrow, OK

#17 May 31, 2009
I am a pharmacist who has been robbed three times. Anyone who claims they are not scared to death when held up are lying. You go into survival mode, you feel as if it is a bad dream. The pharmacist in OKC should not be charged in this case; he was under extreme pressure to protect himself and his fellow workers.
Those who carry out violent crimes should have NO rights during the crime. They elected to rob the pharmacy; the pharmacy employees were just doing a days work. Personally, I would like to see the Oklahoma State Board of Pharmacy require all retail pharmacists to be trained in the use of a firearm and also be required to be armed while working.
ThePatriot

United States

#19 May 31, 2009
Looking ahead wrote:
I hope everyone that posts on this subject at least watches the tape from the the pharmacy before they comment. The robber that died was unarmed laying in the floor for quite awhile before the pharmacist shot him 5 times in the stomach. Maybe adrenaline the pharmacist was feeling makes this morally ok but I doubt that it does legally. I do not feel sorry for the robbers who should never had been there. I do feel sorry for the pharmacist who will at the very least have many legal fees and perhaps some loss of freedom. I wish he hadn't crossed the counter to shoot the robber and we would all be calling him a hero right now instead of trying to figure out if he is guilty of murder.
I wish the pharmacist would have taken the tape out and got rid of it before the police arrived. then indeed. I know in the laws eyes he should have stopped with the head shot. But first degree murder charges are BS. Like Ive said before. I pray that any court in this state does not put him behind bars.
I personally think a legal fund should be established for this pharmacist and we all should donate to it. He did what we all think we would have done.
slimjim

Tulsa, OK

#20 May 31, 2009
What we have is a racists judge who says she receiuved a threat on the phone. Wait until she has a thug stick a gun in her face and that will happen if she continues to defend these people. A dead thug is better than a person with countless warrants for there arrest. There is no law that says you can only shoot once, when they enter your place of business with a gun then its you or them. The mother crying about her son needs to remember she brought these thugs home as bed partners. Shoot to kill.
Butchey Weinstein

Oklahoma City, OK

#21 May 31, 2009
ThePatriot wrote:
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I wish the pharmacist would have taken the tape out and got rid of it before the police arrived. then indeed. I know in the laws eyes he should have stopped with the head shot. But first degree murder charges are BS. Like Ive said before. I pray that any court in this state does not put him behind bars.
I personally think a legal fund should be established for this pharmacist and we all should donate to it. He did what we all think we would have done.
There is a defense fund. Mark Shannon has the details on his homepage:

http://www.markshannon.com/
Concerned2

Broken Arrow, OK

#22 May 31, 2009
I really feel for the pharmacist. He saved taxpayers from footing legal and "rehabilitation" benefits for a gangbanger wannabe thug for the rest of his life. If more of us stood up in that manner to defend ourselves from the bottomfeeders of our society, maybe more of them would think twice about feeling all big with a gun in their hands and trying to make us live in fear.

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