Green Country mayor accused of drinki...

Green Country mayor accused of drinking and driving

There are 23 comments on the 2 Works For You story from Dec 19, 2009, titled Green Country mayor accused of drinking and driving. In it, 2 Works For You reports that:

Officers arrived to a two-vehicle accident on Thursday night in Chelsea. When they arrived, they saw mayor Carl Carmack on the scene.

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anonymous

Inola, OK

#1 Dec 19, 2009
Not surprised. The man, Carl Carmac, is known for being a drunk.
anonymous

New York, NY

#2 Dec 22, 2009
Not surprised too. Is this a prerequisite that all mayors in Chelsea drive drunk? The previous was driving drunk about a year and half ago and killed a man on a motorcycle. That town is so jacked up! A previous board member resigned because he could not come to the council meeting sober!!! Go figure?? I have even been told by Carmack regarding driving drunk, "Who is going to give me ticket?" Well he may be just right. It appears as though the OHP still havent ticketed him. You or I would be thrown in jail and ticketed so fast our heads would spin! They need to boot all of the council members out, send them AA meetings and start over. It is a crooked little town with crooked people running it.
In2n

Eufaula, OK

#3 Dec 22, 2009
FYI: Carmack was arrested and taken to jail. He is awaiting the filing of formal charges by the DA. In reference to the former Mayor involved in the accident which killed a motorcycle driver, he was not drinking. The OHP did the investigation and it was early in the morning and he was taking children to school and going to work. Get your facts straight before you post slanderous statements. I got that information straight from the highway patrol. Have a great day!
Concerned Citizen

Inola, OK

#4 Dec 22, 2009
ln2n: Yes, Carmack was taken to jail, as he rightly should have been. Not ticketed nor have charges been filed as of today. The Chelsea police knew the severity of the accident or rather who caused the accident and called in the OHP to cover them and I do not blame them. What an embarrassment to the whole city for his actions. Thank God he did not have his son with him. He drives drunk all the time and am surprised it hasn't happened before now. Thank God he did not kill someone. Maybe this will sober him up, but I would not bet on it. I'm sure he'll be at his weekly poker game with his crooked buddies boozing it up as usual.
Also are you aware of how close he and the Rogers County DA are? This should be interesting as the days unfold.
Wonder if his girlfriend, Krystal Carman who is a reporter for the Claremore Progress will cover THIS story? Doubt it.
Concerned Citizen

Inola, OK

#5 Dec 22, 2009
Additionally ln2n: Previous mayor, No. CM-2009-52
(Criminal Misdemeanor)
DEFENDANT NORMAN WOOTEN WAS CHARGED WITH COUNT #1, NEGLIGENT HOMICIDE- MOTOR VEHICLE IN VIOLATION OF 47 O.S. 11-903 and what did he get? ROGERS COUNTY DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S ORDER OF RULES & CONDITIONS OF PROBATION
Probatation!! What a crock! Another example of fine work by the Rogers county DA. Carmack will get a slap on the wrist.....if that.
Concerned Citizen

Inola, OK

#6 Dec 22, 2009
The attorney that represented Wooten: Attorney Represented Parties
Antinoro, Mark Damon(Bar # 17839)
400 West Fourth Street
Post Office Box 309
Claremore, OK 74018

Is ALSO the attorney that represents the city of Chelsea in their kangaroo municipal courts.
See the crooked connections yet?
anonymous

Inola, OK

#7 Dec 23, 2009
The town of Chelsea is being run by narrow minded, self centered crooks with no regard to the growth of the town. They are more concerned with their own self importance to actually do anything. Funds are wasted & laws are being broken by the very ones who run this place. There seems to be little accountability for anyone involved in a position of authority. The town is dying & its being killed by their very own. What did Carl Carmack do to obtain his former position of Police Commissioner? Then go onto Mayor? Good grief !! It smells bad. Someone outside of the town should be alerted to audit the business of these people.
A Real Concerned Citizen

United States

#8 Dec 23, 2009
These comment post sections always seems to get a lot of un-informed ranting nobodies! So..it looks to me like here is your chance to do something!
If ALL of you would take the time to STOP pointing out problems. Take a look at the hate in your hearts for this man and Town. Stop throwing your self rightous stones or empty "Beer Cans".
Why don't you put your name in the hat for concideration as a City Council person. There's a chair open for such a wise person as yourself.

BUT, I doubt that there is anyone of you that has posted here is even brave enough to do that.
Concerned Citizen

Inola, OK

#9 Dec 23, 2009
Dear Real Concerned Citizen, I fully intend on running for a post on the council, as the council board members will vote to move one of their own into the open mayor position. I live in Chelsea, and I am not a "nobody" as you put it. I pay taxes that support this town, thank you very much.I see the crookedness that is going on and has been for years. It is a shame. This town has potential, but not with the current council members.
There is no hate in my heart at all. It is disgust. You need to understand the difference. Obviously you are protecting your friend Carl Carmack and that is your God given right to do so.
The former Police Commissioner knew of the crookedness of the former Police Chief and turned a blind eye to it, and the rest of the gang (city council members included) knew of it as well, and did nothing.
I agree there is no level of oversight, and accountability is key. Of which there is none in Chelsea. An audit would open pandora's box and would swept under the rug. The council members and previous Mayor use city assets for their own personal use, while the citizens of Chelsea are paying for those assets. It is time the citizens realized what is REALLY going on in that little building and demand a stop to this activity. Time for the "good ole boys" to step aside and people with accountability, morales and decency step up and clean this mess up!!!
I do applaude the new Police Chief for cleaning up the dope infested/pill pushing people in this town!! Obviously he can not be threatened by the council members nor will turn a blind eye. CONGRATS to him!! Only hope he has the preserverance to stay here and not let the crookedness run him off.
And for the record, yes Carmack's girlfriend did indeed run the story in the Claremore Progess. I'm sure she is so proud of him!
http://www.claremoreprogress.com/local/local_...
concerned citizen also

Broken Arrow, OK

#10 Dec 24, 2009
Re: Concerned citizen:
I applaude you for showing the good as well as the bad in the town! It is a matter of fact that all small towns have small town politics, I am well aware of this and it doesn't make it right! They need someone from out of the "good ol' boys" club to step in and take the town back for the people. The new chief is doing this I believe. Chelsea has had a rotten reputation for too long!!! I think we need someone to step into Mayor that will not be swayed by bad influence and one that is not from around Chelsea would help! The police department is cleaning up and anyone who reads the newspapers can see that!!! All of the small minded people out there who bad mouth Chelsea needs to rethink their opinions because this is a new dawn for Chelsea and the residents thereof. But without the community coming together and voicing their concerns rather than complaining by "gossip" get the facts and do something about it!! Go to the meetings and make yourself heard!!! Power is in numbers and there are more citizens then council members!!
Former Chelsea Resident

Fairview, OK

#11 Dec 24, 2009
Concerned Citizen and Concerned Citizen also comments are right on. The only way you can make things better is to voice your concern. Go to meetings,step up and serve on the council. I know volunteerism is at an all time low but, nothing changes unless people are willing to volunteer their time for the betterment of the whole community. Economic Development, code enforcement, daily city services, and future city planning are all basic needs of sustaining a city. You must always be growing just to maintain. Volunteer your time for the right reasons, a better Chelsea.
BL class of ninty six

Mountain View, AR

#12 Dec 28, 2009
just stopped in to see what all the talk was about on here.... alot of "concerned citizens and anonymous" people on here, talking bout currupt members of police and council and how they are so much better and and holier than thou, talkin bout how they would do it different and better, and how they are right and chelsea is wrong...... if chelsea is so bad and currupt get out. there is no fence, gate or guards. dont stay where life is so bad and outragous..... dont hide on the internet and spew your B.S. like you know what is going on. truth be known if it is that bad and you do stay, your stupid and it proves that everything you said isnt credible. but in the real world ... all city governments and towns have their dirty little secrets.. be thankful your from chelsea and you actually know the truth about those who run it. in a city the size of tulsa you wouldnt know anything about your city government nor would half of you even take the time to write about it...with all that is going on in the world and all you can do is complain ..... you need to get out and experience the world around you ... you will then see that the little town of chelsea isnt all that bad..... or you might do us all a favor and just stay gone..... and dont bother with your hate mail cause i could care less about you haters that wont even put your name on the line... and yeah im the only B.L. from the class of 96 so if you know me you know me and if you dont... it aint for you anyway .....
concerned citizen also

Stroud, OK

#13 Dec 30, 2009
Nothing NEW he comes to the Town Meetings this way all the time. He just had a wreck so the Town will now how to take appropriate ACTION. Now will the City Police do anything if they see Him driving?? I doubt it, but lets see. TBC
To the Former Chelsea Resident: the Town Council acts corrupted, there is property in this city that should of been torn down more than 20yrs ago, but the Town Council acts as it they afraid of the owner or is on the take.
Concerned Citizen

Vera, OK

#14 Dec 30, 2009
Glad to know I am not the only one that sees what is going on in this town. Maybe with a new Mayor, things will turn around for the betterment of Chelsea.
A Real Concerned Citizen

Tucson, AZ

#15 Dec 30, 2009
concerned citizen also wrote:
To the Former Chelsea Resident: the Town Council acts corrupted, there is property in this city that should of been torn down more than 20yrs ago, but the Town Council acts as it they afraid of the owner or is on the take.
About this property! So there has been 20 years of afraid, on the take, and corrupted Town Council?? Huh!
Concerned Citizen

Vera, OK

#16 Dec 31, 2009
concerned citizen also wrote:
Nothing NEW he comes to the Town Meetings this way all the time. He just had a wreck so the Town will now how to take appropriate ACTION. Now will the City Police do anything if they see Him driving?? I doubt it, but lets see. TBC
To the Former Chelsea Resident: the Town Council acts corrupted, there is property in this city that should of been torn down more than 20yrs ago, but the Town Council acts as it they afraid of the owner or is on the take.
If you want to make a change and help Chelsea, then get involved!!! Easy to sit back and complain, harder to get up and get active. I seriously doubt that any Town Council members are on "the take". I have been to the meetings whereby run-down properties were discussed. The council tries every possible means to provide the owners more than ample time to resolve the issue. Remember, this is not Tulsa where employment salaries are higher and monies are readily available. I too get upset because a neighbor's propery is bringing the value of mine down. But as a "neighbor" have I helped all I could? Without knowing the circumstances of what people are dealing with, it is easy to throw stones. I keep our property up and at times have mowed neighbors yards when they did not have the means to hire it done. That is being a "Concerned Citizen".
concernedsince06

Tulsa, OK

#17 Jan 17, 2010
my son and me are the ones the jerk hit and yes he is still driving i seen him in the same truck he hit me in yesterday at jiffy mart i hurried home didn't want to get hit again and i am getting out but be realistic it takes money most of the people here were born here and are just here to die or haven't had the money to get out yet chelsea is and has been dying for a long time it just took the two recent "mayor" wrecks for people to figure that out btw to make it all worse he had no insurance
Concerned Citizen

Inola, OK

#18 Jan 17, 2010
concernedsince06 wrote:
my son and me are the ones the jerk hit and yes he is still driving i seen him in the same truck he hit me in yesterday at jiffy mart i hurried home didn't want to get hit again and i am getting out but be realistic it takes money most of the people here were born here and are just here to die or haven't had the money to get out yet chelsea is and has been dying for a long time it just took the two recent "mayor" wrecks for people to figure that out btw to make it all worse he had no insurance
Get a lawyer and sue his ass!
Concerned Citizen

Claremore, OK

#20 Aug 1, 2010
And yet Carmack STILL drives around Chelsea drunk!! And the city hired him as the lifeguard/pool manager for the summer!! Now that is classy. Wait til a kid drowns and someone sues the city for neglect because he was drunk/hung over.Pitiful and sad.
tiredcitizen

Claremore, OK

#21 Aug 2, 2010
I hear he doesnt drink anymore. Just hangs out with other drunk idiots that are on the towns "good ole boy list" that we read about in the paper. I seen where the officer that stood up and said something didnt get off her probation imagine that..small town politics at its best.

Sure wish things would change for the better around here. I am afraid it wont happen as long as the current drunk swingers keep thinking they are above the law. maybe we should have some outside agencies come in and start watching our town leaders.

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