Chelmsford officials on recall effort...

Chelmsford officials on recall effort: Enough

There are 35 comments on the Lowell Sun story from Oct 24, 2010, titled Chelmsford officials on recall effort: Enough. In it, Lowell Sun reports that:

A petition to recall two members of the Planning Board has town officials claiming one resident has taken the political process "too far." After collecting 25 signatures from each of the town's nine voter precincts, and having them confirmed by the town clerk, Chelmsford resident Roland VanLiew has until Nov.

Join the discussion below, or Read more at Lowell Sun.

First Prev
of 2
Next Last
reader

Lowell, MA

#21 Oct 25, 2010
why isn't Mr. Van Liew using his energies to help the people in Chelmsford over by Aspen Apartments, or in Williamsburg? Where was he when the asphalt plant wanted to expand that he couldn't be voice for the people in that neighborhood?
Me first of all

Lowell, MA

#22 Oct 25, 2010
Mr. Van Liew only cares about his self importance. He's not about making the town a better place, he's about trying to prove he is smarter than everyone else, period. Look at me!
OK nine

Chelmsford, MA

#23 Oct 25, 2010
Van Liew's petition went out ages ago and he is managed to collect next to nothing! It sounds as though people are terribly upset. I watched the town meeting and there were people speaking in support of the project as well.
Not again Fran wrote:
I love how people keep saying that this is "only one person" Thousands of Chelmsford residents are angry over the policies of our elected officials and the clearly insider-trading approval of the travesty at 9 north road was the last straw.
If we knew the whole truth, some of them could probably get fined or worse, but certainly the outrage over the approval of the building is from the town as a whole and not just one person. A lab monkey could see that.
Why

Chelmsford, MA

#24 Oct 25, 2010
Why do you always call him Philly. You sound so juvenile and just a tad bitter.
FRIENDS OF PHILLY wrote:
Why not just ask the Eliopoulos Clan and whats left of the FORMER Friends of Philly to pony up a few grand a piece and that might cover the cost of this special election. They caused this fiasco lets see them put their money where their mouths are. Nice try by Phillies close personal friend Rita to write an article that attacks Mr Van Liew and not the real cause of all this animosity in our once nice little town, PHILLIP ELIOPOULOS. Hopefully after building this monstrousity and a heavy rain it will sink into the 10 FEET of fill that was hauled into what was once CENTRAL PARK. Dont forget to tell the patriarch, BIG MIKE, that the captain always goes down with the ship!!
portly

North Attleboro, MA

#25 Oct 25, 2010
Why wrote:
Why do you always call him Philly. You sound so juvenile and just a tad bitter.<quoted text>
Probably not bitter, I think they're trying to be as insulting as possible to someone that has shown complete contempt for every other resident of town.
Stating the Obvious

Lowell, MA

#26 Oct 25, 2010
portly wrote:
<quoted text>
Roland Van Liew is a hypocrite and a bigot.
Gee Roland, Its OK for you to go buy your big newly developed manse back in 2000 ... Got tired of living in that little dump on Westford Street?What's the matter now? Are you afraid someone will build low income housing behind your manse on Hemlock on what looks like a gerrymandered lot? Don't worry .. its wetlands back there right up to your back door. You're secluded compound is safe from us hillbilly riffraff.
THe GIS database is pretty cool.
portly

North Attleboro, MA

#28 Oct 25, 2010
Stating the Obvious wrote:
Recall provisions are not trivial. They are purposely difficult to achieve. If Roland can get the validated signatures required, then let's have the vote. And even then a majority vote is required. Getting 10% of the electorate to sign is not easy - especially when compared against the typical percentage of eligible voters that participate in an election. You are asking many hundreds of people to put their name down on a petition and be counted - in name. That in itself is a pretty strong signal. Personally, I find Roland to be "cure" that makes one more ill. I wish he'd be more constructive.
2500 certified signatures is going to be nearly impossible in the time they have. These people are not the problem but Roland doesn't care and he doesn't do his homework or he wouldn't have gone after Cohen only to find out that he can't recall someone that wasn't elected. This may just be a test that Roland's doing to see if he can get it done and then he tries for a the selectman.

This whole thing would be more legit if it wasn't for Roland's involvement. He detracts from the serious discussion like a rodeo clown.
FRIENDS OF PHILLY

Lowell, MA

#29 Oct 25, 2010
portly wrote:
<quoted text>
Probably not bitter, I think they're trying to be as insulting as possible to someone that has shown complete contempt for every other resident of town.
Once again Portly i almost totally agree with you. Philly has well earned that name all by himself and its far from childish. Definitely not bitter, happy to see this guy and his family hang themselves in the arena of public opinion. Yea Yea the public is suppose to have a short memory, but i will put money on the residents of Chelmsford never forgetting they were screwed by the entire Eliopoulos Family and the Public Officials who were used by the E-Clan. Time will tell. Big Mike might have to reduce the price on the house for sale in Maine, looks like he will be needing that money soon!!! Imagine that, the money they saved by stealing the preservation restricted land from the inhabitants of Chelmsford will seem like pennies when this whole mess plays out over the next few years. TIC TOC TIC TOC its just a matter of time!!
portly

United States

#30 Oct 26, 2010
FRIENDS OF PHILLY wrote:
<quoted text>Once again Portly i almost totally agree with you. Philly has well earned that name all by himself and its far from childish. Definitely not bitter, happy to see this guy and his family hang themselves in the arena of public opinion. Yea Yea the public is suppose to have a short memory, but i will put money on the residents of Chelmsford never forgetting they were screwed by the entire Eliopoulos Family and the Public Officials who were used by the E-Clan. Time will tell. Big Mike might have to reduce the price on the house for sale in Maine, looks like he will be needing that money soon!!! Imagine that, the money they saved by stealing the preservation restricted land from the inhabitants of Chelmsford will seem like pennies when this whole mess plays out over the next few years. TIC TOC TIC TOC its just a matter of time!!
And what about the arm of the clan over on Proctor? Remember the son with the temper (ok, so he's probably in his 50's now)? Is he in jail? He probably should be. That bunch went around town like they owned it as far back as I can remember.
Long Shot

Lowell, MA

#31 Oct 26, 2010
if i were a gambling man, i'd place a long shot that maybe 1-2 years from now....some Apeals Court Judge is gonna order Fort Eliopoulos torn down!! w/Epsilon to foot the bill!! what's that saying about he who laughs last?
portly

United States

#32 Oct 26, 2010
Long Shot wrote:
if i were a gambling man, i'd place a long shot that maybe 1-2 years from now....some Apeals Court Judge is gonna order Fort Eliopoulos torn down!! w/Epsilon to foot the bill!! what's that saying about he who laughs last?
That's a real long shot ... Especially considering that we're about to elect Jim Lane to the BOS and the BOS is the body with standing in court .. nothing will change.

For Pete sake, we have an election, no incumbent and all of this 9 North Road stuff going on and only one new guy stepped up and he didn't even bother to run a campaign? This town's residents deserve Jim Lane.

I know Jim and I think he's a nice guy. His wife is very nice. But I also know he's just more of the same. Look at his record on the planning and master planning boards. The one thing Roland has right is that the planning board did not have to grant any special permits. If they'd said no, then this whole mess would have gone away, but in the end they had to grant them because they all owe Phil. Phil's machine got them elected.
Booger

Montgomery, AL

#33 Oct 26, 2010
I would find it ammusing if all of the elected officials just stepped down tomorrow. Everyone would be scrambling with their heads up their arses trying to find a replacement because it take a sick individual to want to be a politician in Chelmsford. This town needs an enima.
Gilligan

Chelmsford, MA

#34 Oct 26, 2010
SkipperJim wrote:
It is certainly not "one person". No question on "insider trading". We needed a new fire station and how convenient was it for a fromer selectman to use his influence to grapbland from "all the citizens of Chelmsford", as the preservation restriction read. It really is the last straw in a series of mismanaged
fiascos by town appointees. How about the "special elections" forced upon us to spend 25 million for the DPW and Fire Station? Fortunately, wisdom prevailed but the perpetrators are still in office. No more appointees.
And our Fire Trucks are still parked outside while a new monument to stupidity rises behind a crumbling building. Wake up people.
So little buddy, its not about "saving open space"? Obviously it would be fine for the town to build on this private land? Kind of hippocritical huh?
Stating the Obvious

Lowell, MA

#35 Nov 3, 2010
Gilligan wrote:
<quoted text>
So little buddy, its not about "saving open space"? Obviously it would be fine for the town to build on this private land? Kind of hippocritical huh?
Actually it isn't. If the fire station were rebuilt in the vicinity of the current one, it would only extend out the back further where there was asphalt. And, the building would have benefitted the entire Town. Instead, we have a private structure utilizing nearly all of the space not under water benefiting a select few people. Sure, one could argue that getting your teeth fixed, face lifted, or legal representation helps those residents of the Town who pay for such services, but that stretches the point.
Stating the Obvious

Chelmsford, MA

#36 Apr 24, 2011
portly wrote:
<quoted text>
2500 certified signatures is going to be nearly impossible in the time they have. These people are not the problem but Roland doesn't care and he doesn't do his homework or he wouldn't have gone after Cohen only to find out that he can't recall someone that wasn't elected. This may just be a test that Roland's doing to see if he can get it done and then he tries for a the selectman.
This whole thing would be more legit if it wasn't for Roland's involvement. He detracts from the serious discussion like a rodeo clown.
Well, unfortunately I think you were right. The Planning board was the test. The Selectman recalls are the real deal. He learned he lost valuable time between submitting the petition and getting the next batch signed by the 10% and was prepared legally (and his point was, I'll admit, valid). He learned how to dispatch his paid shills to collect signatures, too. I hope Roland fails miserably, though.

Tell me when this thread is updated:

Subscribe Now Add to my Tracker
First Prev
of 2
Next Last

Add your comments below

Characters left: 4000

Please note by submitting this form you acknowledge that you have read the Terms of Service and the comment you are posting is in compliance with such terms. Be polite. Inappropriate posts may be removed by the moderator. Send us your feedback.

Chelmsford Discussions

Title Updated Last By Comments
Do you remember???? (Jun '08) Mon Wondering 18,430
Billerica crim,e 70s 80s 90s (Jul '08) Feb 13 OLD FRIEND DD 374
News Student denies assault on teacher at Chelmsford... (Sep '10) Feb 9 Brimstone 35
lowell crime stories as remebered by residents (Jul '08) Feb 7 Mark 822
News Lowell man shot dead (Dec '09) Feb 6 Lilah 268
News Frozen pizza almost as good as real thing (Dec '10) Feb 6 Hungry Marvin 28
News Pharmacists sell Familiarity (Aug '09) Jan 28 Debbie bolio 22

Chelmsford Jobs

More from around the web

Personal Finance

Chelmsford Mortgages