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#82 Oct 22, 2013
Dave P wrote:
Sample question- do you JC personally think that brethren who use instruments in their singing are in agreement with scripture, and are they in fellowship with you and in your opinion, with God?
If you ask if I would worship with a piano playing choir singing group the answer is no.
Finally, we get an answer! Now, where in the words and deeds of the early church do we find such an idea? Or is this something that came along later?
Refer to post 71 I answered it clearly.

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#83 Oct 22, 2013
Mike Peterson wrote:
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Worship is the Liturgy. There are many liturgies in the Church like Liturgies of the Hours, mainly done by priests, and and Adoration of the Blessed Sacrament or example.
The Mass by far, is the most important.
The focal point of every Church is the altar. Even the Pope is seated to the side or behind the Altar.
The Tabernacle which holds the precious body of Jesus Christ is prominent and a red candle is always lit when he is present.
The Church is a holy place and not a fellowship hall. Songs are song for a purpose not to get the crowd up for the main act of the preachers sermon.
God does not need our worship; He is complete in Himself, even without receiving the worship of His creatures.
We, however, arenít complete. In our fallen state, we have separated ourselves from God. Worship draws us closer to Him. When we worship Him, we imitate the angels and saints who surround His throne in heaven. We are drawn out of this life and catch a glimpse of the next. The Mass and the other liturgies of the Church are not mere human ceremonies or social hours; they are a participation in heaven here on earth.
And this order of worship has been virtually unchanged since the 4th century...that would be AD 300+ for all you CofC types. Of course much of the Liturgy predates AD 300 since it did not suddenly appear on January 1, 300. If the CofC wanted they could be singing a cappella hymns from these earliest centuries but of course they prefer 19th century Baptist, Lutheran, Anglican and Presbyterian stuff written for piano/organ accompaniment.

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