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Child dies after accident involving plow truck in Hillsdale

There are 42 comments on the WTEN-TV Albany story from Nov 28, 2013, titled Child dies after accident involving plow truck in Hillsdale. In it, WTEN-TV Albany reports that:

HILLSDALE, N.Y. A 5-year-old died at the scene of an accident involving a minivan and a town plow truck in the Town of Hillsdale Wednesday night.

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Nina

Bristol, PA

#2 Nov 30, 2013
I can see by your writings that your son was blessed to have you as a mom. Yes, he was a hero but he was an angel. He was born for a reason and called back to his original home for a reason. News of his goodness spread far and wide. I am sorry for your loss. I am reading a book titled angels in my hair by Lorna Byrne..and find it comforting. My best to you and yours.
Catherine Paton

Canaan, CT

#3 Nov 30, 2013
Catherine Paton wrote:
This tragic accident claiming the lives of two young people is one that too many towns have faced, yet one that can draw people closer together over time if taken in part to value all of the people in our lives more fully.
There are not enough resources to help the families and friends of a person who "crosses over to the other side" as I prefer to describe the kind of transition that occurs when someone 'dies', particularly one who is young or goes unexpectedly. I hope that everyone moved by this challenging loss can take time to reflect with others about ways to help the family, their community and themselves in dealing with challenges.
In June of 2009, our teen son Kaelan Paton was lost in the Housatonic River in CT when trying to save a friend, who later was thankfully saved by a rescue worker. We held an uplifting memorial service to celebrate his love for life and people about a month later which is on youtube.
People may find some comfort in the folk songs and sentiments shared that day by hundreds of kind souls. There are many theories about the afterlife, and in case there is much more than we can comprehend, let us all find ways to rest in our dreamtime and discover ways to remember our loved ones in meaningful ways for a few minutes or more. Taking walks outdoors, finding time to journal and write letters to our loved ones, both here and 'on the other side' and being open to all of God's blessings are ways we can honor the legacy and stay connected.
More help may be found on www.211.org and ideas can be shared on www.livfully.drupalgardens.com or on Facebook (which also has a public group formed in memory of Kaelan Paton). May we grow in our compassion and care for one another during these trying times which now will color the winter season in bittersweet ways, but let us try to focus on the good in life in all seasons. The families and towns going through this difficulty are in our prayers.
I see some people have a hard time thinking about the 'bigger picture' that we will all have a time to leave this planet and that it is not clear whether no matter how we go is something we may have 'agreed to before coming into human form'. I didn't know these theories very well but had heard of them vaguely. When I went to a service for another young person who died suddenly and saw hundreds of friends gathered to support that family, I felt again that we are growing as community and hopefully would really be finding ways to help each other more Before tragedy strikes. Too often youth are off having 'fun' which is similar to what their parents did...Now we know the seriousness of wreckless or drunk driving and all take more precautions. We know there are relentless problems with all kinds of drugs however, so have to almost 'put our faith in God/ Love, the universe' to keep us safe when on the roads. The danger of weather has been highlighted in this loss, and a similar storm last year in Hillsdale resulted in black ice and a truck flipping yet thankfully two youthful men were spared. I don't know what it all means, but think 'feeling that we can learn and grow in compassion' is an overall possibility. I do not intend to offend anyone with these thoughts, and over time, maybe they will make more sense..I'm 50 now, and life seems quite different and in ways more comprehensible than in previous decades. Thanks for considering these views as you can, using buddy systems as you can and asking for support when dealing with any kind of challenge or change, loss or passing. Peace.
Catherine Paton

Canaan, CT

#4 Nov 30, 2013
Nina wrote:
I can see by your writings that your son was blessed to have you as a mom. Yes, he was a hero but he was an angel. He was born for a reason and called back to his original home for a reason. News of his goodness spread far and wide. I am sorry for your loss. I am reading a book titled angels in my hair by Lorna Byrne..and find it comforting. My best to you and yours.
Thank you for your touching comments..I just checked this site and saw alternative assessments..those started when I did not despair immediately after learning of our son's loss. I believe it's helpful to 'send them off with love and prayers, positive thoughts and small gatherings' for a few days (all from www.steiner.org and the book Living Into Dying). I have had many days of 'the hard miserable kind of grief that one sees in a movie' but really, often that was blended with feeling the lack of willingness on our Wider Community's part to really process many aspects of what I had lived through the prior few years when facing many difficulties. I felt that every experience was a major teaching tool and that our whole society is being kept in the dark about difficult trends in the custody courts and really even in numerous households regarding abuse, neglect and many challenges. After our son died, I felt like I would be able to rewrite the negatives and say 'this is not going to happen anymore with communities condoning difficulties and danger, skirting key issues, and ignoring major problems..We can have forums of What IF this is happening in your L-IF-E..here are some key ideas and resources, team players and wider community-on both state and national levels to show we are Growing in Care, Intelligence, and Capability...We can supervise our youth and others in need, we can all be more accountable for our actions, words and whereabouts. We don't have to wait until people go to extremes (a given in many 'divorce/ custody settings' with people kidnapping their kids or abusers getting sole custody too often, with protective moms given gag orders if seeking safety for their children whom they may not even be allowed to see for years after the fact--google "mothers custody conference". That seemed the major dangerous whitewater river taking putting too many families in harm's way and heading them towards bankruptcy with legal fees. This is not the time to perhaps get into such major dilemmas, but there never seems to be the right time, people or place..I would also offer that too many people are ready to 'do away with problem people in their lives' without really thinking things through logically. It may be that someone is trying to direct them toward a more respectful, accountable way of living, and in the name of denial they will fight to protect not only their own image but anyone in their family (particularly true of abusive or addicted people--often they are surrounded by enablers, even their victims could be self-sacrificing). So again, the wake up call is to be careful who we are 'judging glibly and without evidence' and learn from the tragic losses, that maybe we cause them energetically on some level by voting for 'blind driving' in our judgments. Again, in custody or even regular families, could ALL PARENTS agree to be screened for being victims, abusers or complicit? Anonymous sites could enlighten both parents and other family members (same with caring for elderly or mentally ill). Soon, more people would gain understanding without having to be diagnosed, treated, arrested or battle in court. But few can find their way to such sites--worth a google today to honor those on the other side. Any kind of personal growth and care likely will help our lives go more smoothly..and really make the time we leave of less importance if our lives are lived with care and meaning...again, God Bless one and all...today and all-ways with an eye toward peace,forgiveness and healing.
zeldo

Cohoes, NY

#5 Nov 30, 2013
unfortunately sit happens lady..

you cant save the world.

life aint perfect stop trying to live a picture perfect life and take the bad with the good...

it is what it is
Catherine Paton

Canaan, CT

#6 Nov 30, 2013
zeldo wrote:
unfortunately sit happens lady..
you cant save the world.
life aint perfect stop trying to live a picture perfect life and take the bad with the good...
it is what it is
I'm seeing a bigger reality-- consider we are spending millions each year on keeping 2 Million Men (disproportionately of color and low-income, poor education and poor mental health) often for 'drug possession or other non-violent crimes'. That's taking the refuse and using it to do some good for the environment. The older folks are, the more likely they have never heard of the terms 'benign neglect, abuse, and domestic abuse' when they were young and ready to learn 'what's what'. Likely, older folks 'got spanked as kids' for their own good. Tough love was a given and using a collective new way of caring for all people would have been a violation of people's privacy or parental rights. Now, it's the case that people are being found complicit for not reporting crimes in their schools, faith circles, online and elsewhere. Sadly, the message that we 'are a village' for better or worse is catching on..so why not aim over time to make a meaningful contribution to the situation..Even to mention that no, we can't always save everyone,(something I had explained to my son regarding White Water Boating as Rescue Sport with Limitations), but we could as he did help call 9-1-1 (by hand signalling to friends who thankfully found a driver with a cell phone with coverage, not a given in our area). Parental plans, again which I thought were in place to NOT allow the youth to go alone to the river and not when dangerous, also Were NOT followed...Yes, shift happens, but sometimes people have to really think more of this through for themselves, as in the youth, the parents and teachers in charge (they had just left school and some students told them not to go but had not thought to tell teachers, who Should Have Called Parents and Police--likely a plan that still is not in place clearly as far as I know. Every school and group could adopt such policies..that's the kind of PLANNING I'm talking about (and have for many years and decades Before this tragedy occurred in). Still, without some comments, the talk stops and the stories are not shared. Any good ideas out there welcome too..and yes, you may be someone who knows all too well what I'm talking about, but realize plenty of folks live in bubble and it is tricky to process some of this 'real life and death' stuff...I'm still a work in progress...and truly hope the family suffering this loss will only hear about this at a time and in a way that they can consider as one seeking to bring some light to the darker corners of our mainly positive small-town livelihood. I got to meet the two fellows who survived the accident last year when their truck flipped and they let me give them a hug til their folks could do so..That's more than I could ever do for our son who we never saw again, though he was recovered a week later intact 7 miles south. There's more info on google, and any parent or community leader likely could learn a lot, as could a person of any age. Some young children told me that they 'would be my kids' since they learned of my son's passing..I appreciated that outreach, and find ways to connect in positive ways with schools and the newer souls on plan-it earth..seeing them as much as our teachers and guides not only as they arrive but when they leave on occassion in ways that can only move us hopefully to pause and reflect on our spiritual natures with trust that 'there is something more' than we normally see and feel about life..It's about the living and the giving, which is not always easy to remember when bills need paying and the troubles mount..but in the end, I'd vote for saying "we're growing together" and love is stronger than fear or despair..Hope we can all stay strong at heart to honor the newest angels in heaven and encourage their dear families and friends to stay strong too.
zeldo

Cohoes, NY

#7 Nov 30, 2013
change the channel lady
Nina

Bristol, PA

#8 Nov 30, 2013
zeldo wrote:
change the channel lady
the opportunity was yours
Catherine Paton

Canaan, CT

#9 Dec 1, 2013
I have posted a lot more on my son's FB page, and there are 200 members on that. Some may feel the way the Troy fellow Zeldo does, others may be more of my new friend Nina in Philadelphia does..The overall Discussion is likely one we may all have someday, even beyond this earthly realm, according to Rudolf Steiner and his book (or google site info )Staying Connected. Sometimes those least interested in spiritual matters are the most curious after one dies. It's like having a poor phone connection however if one hasn't found some networks while alive..Again this is Rudolf Steiner's theory not mine. The other sites and books by Dr. Sha propose we have many lifetimes, and the karma from the past is coloring (or printing out) what we are experiencing in the present. That can give anyone pause for reflection...maybe harms done to us are like what we did to others..and likely we've all 'done our share' if you think back over history. It may be hard to switch tracks if over many lifetimes we keep choosing to 'not look up', to stay linked to only physical matters and not believe in spiritual things (and that would mean not find out IF we are harming others or Not Trying to Protect Others or Ourselves, Not Reviewing our laws and practices in any field to see if they are failing to protect people, etc. I've thought on these things for decades, so want to adknowledge this is not everyone's cup of tea. I'm trying to save people TIME and to create a sense of TEAM that can better weather such storms. I put some info on another site too, so google and see what others say. Hope this can help someone in their time of need, I know I drew on strength of others surviving horrible things but not losing faith in God and a sense of overall good in life...how about you?
Catherine Paton

Canaan, CT

#10 Dec 1, 2013
Catherine Paton wrote:
This tragic accident claiming the lives of ONE 5-year-old Girl, Not her sister too as was mistakenly mentioned on an earlier update on the AMC Hosp Forum-the 14 yr old was injured badly but is alive as of DEC 1st reports )people is one that too many towns have faced, yet one that can draw people closer together over time if taken in part to value all of the people in our lives more fully.
There are not enough resources to help the families and friends of a person who "crosses over to the other side" as I prefer to describe the kind of transition that occurs when someone 'dies', particularly one who is young or goes unexpectedly. I hope that everyone moved by this challenging loss can take time to reflect with others about ways to help the family, their community and themselves in dealing with challenges.

In June of 2009, our teen son Kaelan Paton was lost in the Housatonic River in CT when trying to save a friend, who later was thankfully saved by a rescue worker. We held an uplifting memorial service to celebrate his love for life and people about a month later which is on youtube.
People may find some comfort in the folk songs and sentiments shared that day by hundreds of kind souls. There are many theories about the afterlife, and in case there is much more than we can comprehend, let us all find ways to rest in our dreamtime and discover ways to remember our loved ones in meaningful ways for a few minutes or more. Taking walks outdoors, finding time to journal and write letters to our loved ones, both here and 'on the other side' and being open to all of God's blessings are ways we can honor the legacy and stay connected.
More help may be found on www.211.org and ideas can be shared on www.livfully.drupalgardens.com or on Facebook (which also has a public group formed in memory of Kaelan Paton). May we grow in our compassion and care for one another during these trying times which now will color the winter season in bittersweet ways, but let us try to focus on the good in life in all seasons. The families and towns going through this difficulty are in our prayers.
I Changed to Main Point of my first comment in terms of how many people died in the accient. I don't know how to change the original posting and would welcome input on that. An update I had read on the Hosp Forum had said that the 14 yr old had not survived her injuries, but I've read on Dec 1st that she had survived. So that needs correcting in my first posting. My apologies and hope that we can all make more certain of details before posting. I hope we can all ponder these things and count it as a blessing that many are trying to help process these challenges and for all the medical people and rescue workers who work in this more difficult area.
Michael

Sharon Springs, NY

#11 Dec 1, 2013
For once I agree with Zeldo... Unfortunately bad stuff happens, but anyways this post is not for you to tell your story, it is for people to talk about this, not your son so start a new post for that
Catherine Paton

Canaan, CT

#12 Dec 1, 2013
Staying on topic all of the time is likely a huge part of why new ideas and connections are NOT happening in a multiplicity of ways..I challenge each person to venture a little out of their comfort zones and left brain to explore Whatever comes up for them--something related to their life or another insight.That's what many folks have done for centuries or longer the world over. Quick answers work for simple math problems but even the new math being taught asks, what are some other names for 10? A:5 plus 5, 20 divided by 2 and so on. Okay, I'll wrap up and will try to get the first line revised to keep the facts straight regarding the loss of one child, not two, thank God...
Michael

Sharon Springs, NY

#13 Dec 1, 2013
Could've said that in the first place instead of ranting
zeldo

Cohoes, NY

#14 Dec 1, 2013
hey lady take this crap to doctor phil.

we dont care.

end of story
Catherine Paton

Canaan, CT

#15 Dec 2, 2013
Michael wrote:
Could've said that in the first place instead of ranting
Sometimes it takes people a while to mention Why they want to talk (or don't want to talk). I feel all men should 'please sit down and be quiet' on the planet for about a week, and then see if it isn't a different world after 7 days.

Too many naysayers in the male species..maybe that's from hunting days when the lions would find folks who made noise. I say this lovingly, considering maybe we've all been both male or female many times before according to the latest theories I've heard. Also, the male brain has a 'less connected' corpus collusum (if I'm recalling the linking part between the right and left hemispheres). I think the overall set up on this plan-it earth/ heart is that there are spiritual beings (including God or known by another name, a unified field of energy with intelligence which we actually may be part and parcel of..that's why caring about others in many ways is a way to care for and protect ourselves..and words are like swords in terms of their power to do good or 'evil'--wh is live spelled backwards.

So many 'mean folks think, speak and do a lot perfectly Backwards! The nice easy way seems weird or a waste of time..why be nice and collaborate when you can Fight or Silence Others? Those are all forms of using power Over others rather than With Others. But thanks again for your Honesty and few moments to share your thoughts. It all matters and can be part of the needed change in our comprehension of Communication Options. Have a groovy day and I'll aim to do the same (with a sense of humor, gratitude, peace and sharing the road and sites..)I do wish someone had mentioned I could add spaces, but likely that would have used up more of my wordcount. Meanwhile pls note: in my comment about 2 Million MEN in PRISON in the US, I originally then asked about someone knowing what "Composting was" and followed with the explanation that it's about using refuse for something good. I think I was trying to draw the analogy that we already throw good money into rehabbing folks when we should prevent them from going their with better school and social programs..then I also would say let US-All find ways to prevent tragedies (and too many car accidents are very preventable as I reviewed with all due respect that bad weather can come up and it's not always easy to delay one's travels, etc).

Okay, just wanted to get that correction in..and again, careful what you 'put out there' lest you get it back..Ever hear 'I am rubber, you are glue, whatever you say bounces off of me and sticks to you." Just something that may have more truth to it than most realize. See the book The Four Agreements (and The Fifth Agreement and tell me what that says should you have time), Peace and I hope to read Angels in My Hair by Lorna Byrne and lastly invite you all to the Spike's Ride for Sandy Hook in Limerock CT on May 3rd, 2014 (check for details online). That should help US-All get Back on Track!
Vanessa

Sharon Springs, NY

#16 Dec 2, 2013
Can you just stfu please? Thanks
Catherine Paton

Canaan, CT

#17 Dec 4, 2013
Hi Poet Vanessa...a friend and I had to ponder that abbreviation, then I got it and chuckled that you would take the time to be clever. I'd also really mention that I always wonder 'where are folks like you coming from, particularly another woman"..would it be too much of a stretch to guess you don't have kids? My line up of understanding spiritually advanced beings is the divine, then the moms who give birth and Dads who are game to be such, then the women and then men, with the older folks of any age ideally being more tuned in spiritually once they gain awareness that they have choices, even if they made mistakes along the way, being grateful for the overall gift of life. I share this with a sense of 'isn't it curious that we have all these discussions as though men and women were exactly alike and women who have had kids and those who haven't are also assumed to be exactly the same? Once a woman has a child, even a pregnancy, a huge awareness that miracles happen and it's way more than anything she could have done on her own, and yet a most widespread 'secret and mysterious as well as challenging and hopefully rewarding experience' that all mother share the world over and through millenia...and NOBODY talks about it as though it's miraculous (each and every time). Okay, so with that sense of gratitude, I'm asking you and all others, who has silenced us in our lives? Why are we feeling entitled to silence others? Who does that serve? Why should we welcome a new thought if we really don't have time or interest in the ones shared here (and maybe only here on the internet..not hum drum 'nothing we could do or glean from a situation'. I think we all come here to evolve spiritually, and the rest is fluff...so even though it sounds like gibberish, this schtuff may help you sleep more soundly (with a closer connection to your original spiritual reason for coming to help plan-it earth/heart/ smart...and once you go, which may or may not before I do, you and I could even 'connect' should you 'change your TOV (tone of voice and intention). Often the naysayers are the most hungry, Steiner says, for spiritual knowledge after they die...but that's no the best time to get interested. The mortal realm is the arena for finding out about one's humanity and calling, the possibility of humility and growth. That's all I'm hoping we can collectively tune into. good luck, maybe watch the Long Island Medium to explore the Possibility that you will never die, die..you'll always have consciousness and everything you say, do, think and pray Does matter (and May come right back to your doorstep..no one likes to step in dog doo, so why dish it out?) Hope that's not taken as an attack it's a warning such as described in The Wisdom of the Enneagram where (true story) people don't heed a warning of a guy waving on the edge of a road to stop them, only to find out for a moment before dying that he was TRYING to WARN them the BRIDGE WAS O-U-T (it'd fallen in front of him and he was able to stop, get out and think to Try to Save others--are you that kind of person, or does your personality maybe get in the way--mabye EVERYBUDDY could google Enneagram and honor their loved ones here and beyond with some self insight. Doesn't really matter how we get each other interested (within decency and reason of course, and really I am sorry if all this sounds like whining and dribble, that's really not why I've sat here for hours and days (and shared on Sandy Hook Promise as well). But we all process things as we do, until we can say MAYBE I'll try something different Just in Case..And yes, I'm open to ideas.That's why I go to Toastmasters which promotes listening and speaking respectfully..also I've gone to church for my 5 decades and NAMI and others..how 'bout you?
Vanessa

Sharon Springs, NY

#18 Dec 4, 2013
That's way too much crap to read

“Believer of Common Sense”

Since: Jan 11

Middle of Nowhere

#20 Dec 4, 2013
Ignore zeldo. Senility has taken over what little brain that he was born with.

To the OP, I am very sorry for the loss that you have suffered. My thoughts are with you and your family during this difficult time :)
zeldo

Cohoes, NY

#21 Dec 4, 2013
Mysticreality77 wrote:
Ignore zeldo. Senility has taken over what little brain that he was born with.
To the OP, I am very sorry for the loss that you have suffered. My thoughts are with you and your family during this difficult time :)
get off da pc and give yur hubby sum nice head

“Believer of Common Sense”

Since: Jan 11

Middle of Nowhere

#22 Dec 4, 2013
zeldo wrote:
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get off da pc and give yur hubby sum nice head
Get off of the computer and get over on Fowler to your clients.

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