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Tonya Jackson

Charlottesville, VA

#1 Nov 8, 2012
How much money would be available if parents fed, house, and clothed their children freeing up tax money to educate them?
Skip Degan

Rocky Mount, VA

#2 Nov 9, 2012
Was the retirement fund increase the largest cost/loss? If so, perhaps it is time that the employees pay more and the County/School Board pay less into a retirement "system". That is what we do in the private sector when the "going gets tough".
Greene Liberal

Moneta, VA

#3 Nov 9, 2012
Skip Degan wrote:
Was the retirement fund increase the largest cost/loss? If so, perhaps it is time that the employees pay more and the County/School Board pay less into a retirement "system". That is what we do in the private sector when the "going gets tough".
Public education is not the private sector. Its public and public funds need to support it fully. We are the richest country on Earth. We should not have an underfunded eduction system.
Greene Liberal

Moneta, VA

#4 Nov 9, 2012
*Education*
Greene Co Parent

Galax, VA

#5 Nov 9, 2012
This is nuts! Let me guess, the school/teachers are going to parade our kids with signs of "save our school" or "we demand a good future" again. STICK UP FOR YOURSELF GREENE COUNTY. Not again. Live in your means. If you have to cut music, fine. If you have to make desired high cost classes competitive, fine.
Greene Liberal - we aren't the riches on earth. We are in the hole $16T. Everyone thinks their rich neighbors the Jones's with their 5000sqft house, 4 cars, pool, and vacations are rich the day before they are foreclosed on and repo'ed. Doesn't mean they were ever that rich.
Debbie

Charlottesville, VA

#7 Nov 9, 2012
THEN..Why do we have a person riding on the bus, getting paid more or as much as the driver to make kids sit down and be quiet? It's a sad day when a driver can barely get on and off the bus himself, still drives a bus and to top it off, he needs someone to watch the kids to make sure they listen. WHAT A JOKE! I've never seen or heard of such arrangements Greene County comes up with. I can assure you! IT'S ALL IN WHO YOU KNOW AND WHAT YOUR LAST NAME IS. Eliminate arrangements such as these and you're see quite a bit of extra cash flow.

The Dyke area from what I've heard is the worst. I just cannot imagine.
Disillusioned

Charlottesville, VA

#9 Nov 9, 2012
How much revenue is Greene receiving from taxes paid by Walmart?

Budget shortfalls abound, but look at the fancy football and other fields they built. Yes, kids need exercise -- how about some fricking jump ropes and kick balls? These elaborate fields and facilities were overkill. And before you start talking about high school teams needing equipment -- check out the neighboring middle school's new field and equipment. If there is no money, stop spending on extras then threaten to cut teachers and staff.
Just Wondering

Charlottesville, VA

#11 Nov 9, 2012
Why, when there is a "budget" issue - the first scream is "cut teachers"...when it should be "how many central office staff members do we need?"

Ass't Superintendent, Ass't Superintendent for Instruction, Ass't Superintendent for Cirriculum, Ass't Transportation Director, Really?

Yes, teachers should contribute to their retirements, as every taxpayer does.
Just Wondering

Charlottesville, VA

#12 Nov 9, 2012
oh....****t was typed in as ASST
Dude

Warrenton, VA

#13 Nov 9, 2012
Greene Liberal wrote:
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Public education is not the private sector. Its public and public funds need to support it fully. We are the richest country on Earth. We should not have an underfunded eduction system.
While I completely agree with you, and am probably the biggest teacher apologist on this board; we already spend more per student than most industrialized nations and get less return on that investment. So to say the problem is that we're not throwing enough money at the problem is flat out false. Education is in dire need of reform, the problem being that results are never instantaneous. The model that's being used right now is to incentivize states to be used as laboratories to find out which model works best, then to adapt those models that work best nationally and hope for the best results. I also hope that we use international models as well, and absorb what works best. Teachers are the stewards of our nation's future, hopefully we can find a way to ease their burden while creating efficient and superior results.
harsh reality

Aylett, VA

#15 Nov 9, 2012
Teachers are so overpaid it is absurd. Why cant you socialists live within your means on OUR money?
Dude

Warrenton, VA

#16 Nov 9, 2012
harsh reality wrote:
Teachers are so overpaid it is absurd. Why cant you socialists live within your means on OUR money?
If you think they're so overpaid, why don't you teach?
thinking free

Charlottesville, VA

#17 Nov 9, 2012
Fluvanna and Greene ought to suck up to Albemarle, Albemarle has got 2.4 million to squander and can't figure out what to do with it. The residents of Greene and Fluvanna I'm sure spend a lot of money here in Albemarle which probably helps cause Albemarle surplus to begin with.
Mama Dragon

Charlottesville, VA

#19 Nov 12, 2012
Imagine the cost of not supporting our public schools.
Greene football coach

Palmyra, VA

#20 Nov 12, 2012
as long as my 89K salary isn't cut - i don't think any other county is stupid enough to pay me that much without teaching
Greene Co Parent

Galax, VA

#21 Nov 13, 2012
Mama Dragon wrote:
Imagine the cost of not supporting our public schools.
To what end? You can only get a certain rate of return on investment. You can not correlate that for every $1 in you get a promised (and steady) rate of return of x%. I grew up in one of the poorest states in the country and the spending per student was 1/3 (adjusted for inflation) as it is today. And I'll tell you, of all the schools around the country I attended, it was the most rewarding and grueling school I attended. Teachers were less of babysitters (Unlike today) and focused on education and not end of the year tests (SOLs). So, please forgive me if I don't boo-hoo about "our children's future" (mine included!) if we stop dumping so many EXTRA millions into a failed structure/system.

I'm teaching my kids to live within a budget and means. We expect our government to. Why should our schools be excluded!?
teacher

Stanardsville, VA

#22 Nov 13, 2012
Greene Co Parent wrote:
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To what end? You can only get a certain rate of return on investment. You can not correlate that for every $1 in you get a promised (and steady) rate of return of x%. I grew up in one of the poorest states in the country and the spending per student was 1/3 (adjusted for inflation) as it is today. And I'll tell you, of all the schools around the country I attended, it was the most rewarding and grueling school I attended. Teachers were less of babysitters (Unlike today) and focused on education and not end of the year tests (SOLs). So, please forgive me if I don't boo-hoo about "our children's future" (mine included!) if we stop dumping so many EXTRA millions into a failed structure/system.
I'm teaching my kids to live within a budget and means. We expect our government to. Why should our schools be excluded!?
What makes you think we have a "failed" system? I'm sure if one of us would take the time to research it, we would find graduation rates are so much higher today than back "then". I see a system where students are PASSING more rigorous subjects than in the past and are leaving school much better prepared to enter the working world. I see a system where it matters if even the lowest readers learn to read at a sufficient level. I see a system that serves the rich, the poor, the gifted, handicapped and learning disabled. I see a system that serves children with parents who care and children with parents that don't care.

There are some things that schools cannot change. Our economy is so much different than it was even 30 years ago. There are fewer factory jobs for students to enter in this decade and students have to be better learned now than in the past if they desire to enter even low-level jobs. Schools are providing avenues for successful careers but they can't make students accept the help, and if you see them as failed, I would have to disagree. The schools are not perfect, but I see the great majority of them working the best that they know how.
Greene Co Parent

Galax, VA

#23 Nov 13, 2012
teacher wrote:
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What makes you think we have a "failed" system? I'm sure if one of us would take the time to research it, we would find graduation rates are so much higher today than back "then". I see a system where students are PASSING more rigorous subjects than in the past and are leaving school much better prepared to enter the working world. I see a system where it matters if even the lowest readers learn to read at a sufficient level. I see a system that serves the rich, the poor, the gifted, handicapped and learning disabled. I see a system that serves children with parents who care and children with parents that don't care.
There are some things that schools cannot change. Our economy is so much different than it was even 30 years ago. There are fewer factory jobs for students to enter in this decade and students have to be better learned now than in the past if they desire to enter even low-level jobs. Schools are providing avenues for successful careers but they can't make students accept the help, and if you see them as failed, I would have to disagree. The schools are not perfect, but I see the great majority of them working the best that they know how.
Correction, failing, not failed.
Mama Dragon

Charlottesville, VA

#24 Nov 13, 2012
Greene Co Parent wrote:
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Correction, failing, not failed.
The only thing failing here is you. It's pretty obvious you came from one of the poorest states in the nation and have never been properly educated. All you have done is prove my point.
Spaghetti Ralph

Woodbridge, VA

#25 Nov 13, 2012
Close the schools! Most of the education the kids in greene will ever need will be furnished in that Walmart training video.

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