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Disillusioned

Charlottesville, VA

#108 Apr 29, 2009
Yes, this news soon broke out all over the news, but somehow Obama is not responsible or held accountable. If you don't think a photo opportunity with the President's plane (albeit the decoy plane) isn't cleared with the president, you are being a bit naive. And in the end he is responsible for all actions of his office personnel. Not as bad as the Mission Accomplished sign? I guess you forgot the horrors of 9-11, but if you see the look on the folks of NYC as they are being evacuated from hi-rise buildings and them running through the streets, I think most people will agree that it was more than a lack of forethought. It was total disregard for the residents and borders on cruelty.

“You so dirty baby!!!!”

Since: Nov 08

Verona,VA

#109 Apr 29, 2009
Your really just kinda grasping at straws now. I see how you got you screen name because you are living in a fantasy world.
TruthHurts

Charlottesville, VA

#110 Apr 29, 2009
The insensitive, stupid idea for a photo op reportedly cost over $300,000 of taxpayer money. Whether or not President Obama personally authorized the flight, he is responsible for decisions coming out of the White House.
Dark Side

Charlottesville, VA

#111 Apr 30, 2009
TruthHurts wrote:
The insensitive, stupid idea for a photo op reportedly cost over $300,000 of taxpayer money. Whether or not President Obama personally authorized the flight, he is responsible for decisions coming out of the White House.
THANK YOU!!! That is so true. I'm sorry but with Obamaration having to strong arm his stimulus bill through where was there suppose to be money for this photo op. Do you know how many jobs that money could have helped create!!! Please someone try to defend this action by the messiah now. Cause it can't be done.
Disillusioned

Charlottesville, VA

#112 Apr 30, 2009
cavs24 wrote:
Your really just kinda grasping at straws now. I see how you got you screen name because you are living in a fantasy world.
Oh OK -- it's all clear to me now. Give me a sip of the KoolAid and I'll assume the opinions Obama wants me to have. You just keep swallowing it. I think one day you'll get your fill.

“So what do you really mean?”

Since: Jan 09

Charlottesville, VA

#113 Apr 30, 2009
TruthHurts wrote:
The insensitive, stupid idea for a photo op reportedly cost over $300,000 of taxpayer money. Whether or not President Obama personally authorized the flight, he is responsible for decisions coming out of the White House.
Using that logic, every person in our federal government who has been there should take responsibilty for what is happening in our country. Including all the House of Reps and Senators that have been there since before it started. ALL OF THEM.

It was a stupid decision to do the fly overs, and I'll bet you money that Obama did NOT authorize it. I don't think Bush would have authorized it either. Use your brain. Yes, someone should lose their job over it. But to lump it in with everything else is just stupid. I really do love how everything is Obama's fault now. It just shows how petty and shortsighted a lot of people are being. I'm not saying I agree with the whole huge stimulus thing, but we haven't even given it a chance to work. It's not like flicking a swithc and everything gets fixed. Take a step back......the most important thing right now is that we work hard and try to do everything we can for our families and futures. Blaming everyone else for what's wrong isn't going to solve the problems.
Disillusioned

Charlottesville, VA

#114 Apr 30, 2009
The President is supposed to be the most powerful person in our government. With that goes at the very minimum the responsibility of what happens through his office. According to what I read, the photo op fiasco was organized by "the President's Office" -- which I realize is huge and encompasses a lot of jobs. He should have more control over what his office staff is involved with -- and IF he didn't authorize it, he is still responsible (as any supervisor of a department would be). Remember "THE BUCK STOPS HERE"?

In addition, with the economic crisis, this is a prime example of wasteful spending. If we have been give the responsibility to "make sacrifices" and be united to solve the problems, this kind of spending adds insult to injury. THAT, my friend IS Obama's fault, whether he (or you) want to admit it.

“So what do you really mean?”

Since: Jan 09

Charlottesville, VA

#115 Apr 30, 2009
Disillusioned wrote:
The President is supposed to be the most powerful person in our government. With that goes at the very minimum the responsibility of what happens through his office. According to what I read, the photo op fiasco was organized by "the President's Office" -- which I realize is huge and encompasses a lot of jobs. He should have more control over what his office staff is involved with -- and IF he didn't authorize it, he is still responsible (as any supervisor of a department would be). Remember "THE BUCK STOPS HERE"?
In addition, with the economic crisis, this is a prime example of wasteful spending. If we have been give the responsibility to "make sacrifices" and be united to solve the problems, this kind of spending adds insult to injury. THAT, my friend IS Obama's fault, whether he (or you) want to admit it.
Yeah, just like Bush and Cheney were responsible, right? You can't just pick and choose when they become responsible. I'm quite sure the President has gotten involved with what happened and the appropriate people are paying the price. But I'd like to know which person that you've ever heard of can be in all places at all times and know every single thing that happens, everywhere. And don't give me the "Obama thinks he's God" crap. That's just people being pissed off because they don't like him, and don't want him to to tell them what to do. And, I think there are certainly bigger issues for us to be worrying about right now.

“You so dirty baby!!!!”

Since: Nov 08

Verona,VA

#116 Apr 30, 2009
All this outrage over a flight, but no outrage over multiple lies that led to a war and over 4000 us troops being killed. What a set of priorities.
Disillusioned

Charlottesville, VA

#117 Apr 30, 2009
You democrats just keep thinking of the past to avoid any possible negativity for what is going on now. We ARE talking about the present -- the priorities and spending habits of the CURRENT president, including a ridiculous photo op.

And did I say anything about defending the war? No. Speaking of which, I haven't heard much out of the president about bringing the troops home from Iraq. All I see him doing overseas is trying to convince other governments that the stimulus program is a good thing.
Ross

Lady Lake, FL

#118 Apr 30, 2009
Two issues here:

First Cav 24:

You seem to forget that virtually all Democrats in Congress voted to authorize the war in Iraq. If lies were told, they were told to all of Congress as well as that administration. Intelligence agencies all around the world supported our actions in Iraq. A word of advice: GET OVER IT.

Second Common Sense:

The flight over New York City is one issue. The cost of the flight was around 300m. This amount does not address the lost wages of companies where workers fled to the streets and didn’t return to work for over an hour. How much business did this bone-headed stunt cost private business?

Then there are the Obama trips. Yesterday he flew to St. Louis for a town hall meeting…300m for the trip on AF one. Add in the cost of the two C-130s that accompany the president, one for the secret service and one for the cars that follow the president everywhere. I’ll bet the cost of that trip cost over 500m. And he is taking at least two of the photo-op trips per week to New Orleans, South Carolina, and God know where else…money poured down a rat hole so everyone will see him on TV and adore him.

You can debate his responsibility for the trip over New York, but you can’t debate the stupid waste of money for these weekly photo-op trips he has been taking. This guy acts like money is no object.

“So what do you really mean?”

Since: Jan 09

Charlottesville, VA

#119 Apr 30, 2009
Ross wrote:
Two issues here:
First Cav 24:
You seem to forget that virtually all Democrats in Congress voted to authorize the war in Iraq. If lies were told, they were told to all of Congress as well as that administration. Intelligence agencies all around the world supported our actions in Iraq. A word of advice: GET OVER IT.
Second Common Sense:
The flight over New York City is one issue. The cost of the flight was around 300m. This amount does not address the lost wages of companies where workers fled to the streets and didn’t return to work for over an hour. How much business did this bone-headed stunt cost private business?
Then there are the Obama trips. Yesterday he flew to St. Louis for a town hall meeting…300m for the trip on AF one. Add in the cost of the two C-130s that accompany the president, one for the secret service and one for the cars that follow the president everywhere. I’ll bet the cost of that trip cost over 500m. And he is taking at least two of the photo-op trips per week to New Orleans, South Carolina, and God know where else…money poured down a rat hole so everyone will see him on TV and adore him.
You can debate his responsibility for the trip over New York, but you can’t debate the stupid waste of money for these weekly photo-op trips he has been taking. This guy acts like money is no object.
Come on Ross. It does not cost 300 million dollars for the air force one to fly from DC to St Louis, or for that stupid photo op in NY. Nor did it cost 300K. You people think if you just pull numbers out of your rear, or if Rush does, that it must be a fact. The only people you are hurting is yourselves by believing that nonsense. So now you should have a say over when and where the President travels? When did that start? Are you really that dense????
Ross

Lady Lake, FL

#120 Apr 30, 2009
m stands for thousand.
TruthHurts

Charlottesville, VA

#121 Apr 30, 2009
cavs24 wrote:
All this outrage over a flight, but no outrage over multiple lies that led to a war and over 4000 us troops being killed. What a set of priorities.
The outrage is not over just any flight but about a low altitude flight over lower Manhattan that resulted in people rushing into the street thinking another TERRORIST (oops, sorry a man caused disaster) attack was imminent. Whoever gave the order for this photo op used absolutely no common sense.

“So what do you really mean?”

Since: Jan 09

Charlottesville, VA

#122 May 1, 2009
M stands for million. K or G stands for thousand. Either way....the fact that you let someone tell you the flight cost that much, and you believe it, is ridiculous. I guess our President shouldn't travel at all.
TruthHurts

Charlottesville, VA

#123 May 1, 2009
common sense 68 wrote:
M stands for million. K or G stands for thousand. Either way....the fact that you let someone tell you the flight cost that much, and you believe it, is ridiculous. I guess our President shouldn't travel at all.
No problem with the President traveling for the business of the country and even sometimes for pleasure, but his plane should not be buzzing lower Manhattan for a photo op.
Rachelle

Charlottesville, VA

#124 May 1, 2009
I don't care if the stupid stunt cost $3.00 or 300,000.00 of taxpayer money, the person who authorized the flight is an idiot. I will never forget the horror of that day. You don't have to be a New Yorker for those memories of the towers, the Pentagon and flight 93 to grip you in the pit of your stomach at any reminder. How could anyone who is supposedly smart enough to be part of the current administration have made such a decision.

“So what do you really mean?”

Since: Jan 09

Charlottesville, VA

#125 May 2, 2009
TruthHurts wrote:
<quoted text>No problem with the President traveling for the business of the country and even sometimes for pleasure, but his plane should not be buzzing lower Manhattan for a photo op.
I don't disagree with that. I think that person should lose there job. However, I garauntee you it wasn't Obama approving that.

“You so dirty baby!!!!”

Since: Nov 08

Verona,VA

#126 May 2, 2009
And I also remember that republicans were doing their best to frame any opposition to the war in Iraq as UN-Patriotic. Politicians either Democrat or Republican have very little back bone on good days and the Administration found a very good way of making any opposition cave. Label them Un-American. If you think it was anything else than that then you are truly naive. Remember we are Talking Bush, Chenney, And Rove. So lets see some of that outrage over a stupid pr flight over NY city or all this outrage over taxes and spending that mysteriously appeared after Jan 20 and apply it to the amazingly thinly veiled doubled standard the Republicans have develpoed to hide the fact they have no plan for the country other than to whine and cry. The best exampl I can think of Is Eric Cantor.
Ross wrote:
Two issues here:
First Cav 24:
You seem to forget that virtually all Democrats in Congress voted to authorize the war in Iraq. If lies were told, they were told to all of Congress as well as that administration. Intelligence agencies all around the world supported our actions in Iraq. A word of advice: GET OVER IT.
Second Common Sense:
The flight over New York City is one issue. The cost of the flight was around 300m. This amount does not address the lost wages of companies where workers fled to the streets and didn’t return to work for over an hour. How much business did this bone-headed stunt cost private business?
Then there are the Obama trips. Yesterday he flew to St. Louis for a town hall meeting…300m for the trip on AF one. Add in the cost of the two C-130s that accompany the president, one for the secret service and one for the cars that follow the president everywhere. I’ll bet the cost of that trip cost over 500m. And he is taking at least two of the photo-op trips per week to New Orleans, South Carolina, and God know where else…money poured down a rat hole so everyone will see him on TV and adore him.
You can debate his responsibility for the trip over New York, but you can’t debate the stupid waste of money for these weekly photo-op trips he has been taking. This guy acts like money is no object.

“So what do you really mean?”

Since: Jan 09

Charlottesville, VA

#127 May 2, 2009
Ross wrote:
Two issues here:
First Cav 24:
You seem to forget that virtually all Democrats in Congress voted to authorize the war in Iraq. If lies were told, they were told to all of Congress as well as that administration. Intelligence agencies all around the world supported our actions in Iraq. A word of advice: GET OVER IT.
Second Common Sense:
The flight over New York City is one issue. The cost of the flight was around 300m. This amount does not address the lost wages of companies where workers fled to the streets and didn’t return to work for over an hour. How much business did this bone-headed stunt cost private business?
Then there are the Obama trips. Yesterday he flew to St. Louis for a town hall meeting…300m for the trip on AF one. Add in the cost of the two C-130s that accompany the president, one for the secret service and one for the cars that follow the president everywhere. I’ll bet the cost of that trip cost over 500m. And he is taking at least two of the photo-op trips per week to New Orleans, South Carolina, and God know where else…money poured down a rat hole so everyone will see him on TV and adore him.
You can debate his responsibility for the trip over New York, but you can’t debate the stupid waste of money for these weekly photo-op trips he has been taking. This guy acts like money is no object.
So the Bush administration's own appointees lied to them??

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