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A 27-year-old Virginia state trooper has died after he was hit by an SUV while on special assignment directing traffic for the State Fair of Virginia.

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CVilleGordo, if the law enforcement agencies don't feel as if they are endangering their own men and women, it's not up to me to take 'em by the hand and look out for them.

On West Main Street last night I had another blinding adventure with cop cars. One cop had pulled somebody over. OK, no problem. Road clear, plenty of room to go by. But then a second car then parked with his blue lights on too. But the second car blocked the entire lane of travel westbound. People had to go into the opposite eastbound lane to get past them now. You get blinded by these blue lights and then have to cross the double solid yellow lines to get around them. A third car showed up and had to flip all his blinding blue lights on. Now everybody was blinded by 3 cars with blue strobes flashing.

The rookie cops love the big bright flashing blue lights. More power to 'em. At least in the city you can slow down to 5 or 10 mph and shield your eyes somewhat as you try to go around them.

(Which brings us to another subject... why do cops seem to get so much enjoyment out of blocking roadways so much now? In the old days cops would pull people over where there was actually room to get out of the traveled portions of the roadway.)
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Good Stuff 'Blue Lights,' I think you may be right.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Photosensitive_e...
Oh, I think I am right. Having to stop 1 or 2 car lengths behind the state police car at Zions Crossroads, I started feeling sick on my stomach, disorientated and dizzy. As soon as I shielded my eyes from the blue strobes with my right hand, it all went away almost instantly. Was I about to experience my first seizure in my life? I have no idea. But it sure was a strange feeling.
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To "Blue Lights": It is without a doubt in my mind that VSP's Reconstruction Team will find out the route cause. The Troopers on this team are beyond good as it relates to their abilities to get to all aspects of the event. I would not preclude the possibilty of the too bright LED lights that are now in use. Should the truth be told, I have gotton nauseated from having to work directly in the path of those LED lights so I do know the pitfalls of their use. I am deeply saddened at the Troopers demise and can only continue to be at the fore front of those persons who attempt in any venue or stage to remind drivers what price is paid for inattention.
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That is "root cause"...
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So kids-- What about those bright LED headlights more people are using now? Do they blind you when they are coming at you on a county road with two lanes, no median, no shoulders or when they are behind you and you can feel the heat from all that light?
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Heather McMahon wrote:
So kids-- What about those bright LED headlights more people are using now? Do they blind you when they are coming at you on a county road with two lanes, no median, no shoulders or when they are behind you and you can feel the heat from all that light?
They are not LED or flashing strobes. They are HID (high intensity discharge).

The factory installed HID are OK. But aftermarket that are not installed correctly will indeed blind other motorists.
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Blue Lights wrote:
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They are not LED or flashing strobes. They are HID (high intensity discharge).
The factory installed HID are OK. But aftermarket that are not installed correctly will indeed blind other motorists.
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What do you want us to use then? Nothing? I don't think so. Reduce the brightness? Why? To convenience you? Not. HANG UP. I'm tired of scraping people up off the highway because no one wants to slow down and not be first. Thats why we started blocking the road completely. If those lights are so bright, then you can see them from a good distance away, and know something is coming. Plan accordingly.
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What do you want us to use then? Nothing? I don't think so. Reduce the brightness? Why? To convenience you? Not. HANG UP. I'm tired of scraping people up off the highway because no one wants to slow down and not be first. Thats why we started blocking the road completely. If those lights are so bright, then you can see them from a good distance away, and know something is coming. Plan accordingly.
The other lights were adequate. I also agree that they're blinding, and they do affect those with seizure disorders.
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if you are epileptic, you probably shouldn't be driving. period.
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<quoted text>The other lights were adequate. I also agree that they're blinding, and they do affect those with seizure disorders.


If one has a seizure disorder, one should not be driving unless it has been at least a year since their last seizure. If, still affected by lights, then other things will affect as well and one should not drive.

I was remiss in not offering prayers for this troopers family. Regardless of my ( and everyone else's) opinion, they are still in unimaginable pain. God be with them.
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if you are epileptic, you probably shouldn't be driving. period.
right, because epileptics or those with seizure disorders don't ever go anywhere as passengers. Also, many with seizure disorders, don't actually know that they have seizure disorders until they have a seizure, and then they gererally are in denial about it until they have multiple seizures and get EEGs.
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If one has a seizure disorder, one should not be driving unless it has been at least a year since their last seizure. If, still affected by lights, then other things will affect as well and one should not drive.
I was remiss in not offering prayers for this troopers family. Regardless of my ( and everyone else's) opinion, they are still in unimaginable pain. God be with them.
One does not have to be driving to be in a car, and as I stated, they're blinding. Outside of the lights, I agree with you... put the phone down, and do the speed limit, but more importantly, get enough sleep.
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What do you want us to use then? Nothing? I don't think so. Reduce the brightness? Why? To convenience you? Not. HANG UP. I'm tired of scraping people up off the highway because no one wants to slow down and not be first. Thats why we started blocking the road completely. If those lights are so bright, then you can see them from a good distance away, and know something is coming. Plan accordingly.
Wow! I sure didn't have any intentions of ruining your week. But, stuff happens I suppose. I apologize for ruining your week. But at least everybody else gets to see "the rookie" I spoke of above, the one who loves their bright shiny blue lights. Thanks for stopping in.

I can tell everybody a little more about you. You would like to see the driver in Doswell charged with 1st degree premeditated murder. You would like to see the commonwealth seek the death penalty for her. If convicted, and not given the death penalty, you think she at least deserves life in prison. While serving life, you think there should be a picture of this trooper on her prison cell wall that she has to bow down to and worship morning, noon and night.

OK, back to your questions. What do I want the police to use? I think blue lights that are not visible from 10 miles away would be a start. Slop it up buttercup, this new lighting technology is getting cops killed whether you guys like to admit it or not. And unfortuneately, it causing the best and most honest cops we have (troopers) to get killed out here in high speed zones. The very first reply in this story asked, "Why? How long will this continue to happen"? And you will see that the majority of the posters here agree that the blue strobes are excessively bright and not needed.

I have an idea for a new bumper sticker:
HELP SAVE A COP
WEAR SUNGLASSES AT NIGHT!

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ps - I was serious about ruining your week. I'm sorry.
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<quoted text>One does not have to be driving to be in a car, and as I stated, they're blinding. Outside of the lights, I agree with you... put the phone down, and do the speed limit, but more importantly, get enough sleep.
Fair enough on the passenger statement. But I stand by the rest of my statement. It's never easy being out there on the highway when cars are flying by and I can feel the wind from them. I just feel like if people would pay attention, maybe I won't die. Thats why the lights are so bright. We are "screaming" for people to pay attention. And the lights are the only way we can really do it, outside of jumping up and down in the middle of the road. I don't have the luxury of making traffic pay attention and slow down. I'm trying to help a patient ( or 2 or 3) and save my own skin. Why can't the people who aren't involved just behave and SLOW DOWN?
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Fair enough on the passenger statement. But I stand by the rest of my statement. It's never easy being out there on the highway when cars are flying by and I can feel the wind from them. I just feel like if people would pay attention, maybe I won't die. Thats why the lights are so bright. We are "screaming" for people to pay attention. And the lights are the only way we can really do it, outside of jumping up and down in the middle of the road. I don't have the luxury of making traffic pay attention and slow down. I'm trying to help a patient ( or 2 or 3) and save my own skin. Why can't the people who aren't involved just behave and SLOW DOWN?
I get that you have a job to do and the right for safety when doing it. You of all people know how a couple of seconds can kill. All I am saying, and what I believe that "blue lights" is saying is that these lights might actually be more dangerous. Nights that are especially dark, those lights have blinded me for a second or two. At 60 MPH that is 88 to 176 feet, or roughly half a football field. The incandescent lights did not, and they were, in my humble opinion, just as effective at alerting people. I believe those that aren’t slowing down, aren’t doing it because they’re not alerted, they’re doing it because they’re self absorbed idiots. I have a family member who has a seizure disorder, and they have to close their eyes when approaching strobe at night.(They don’t drive).
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I'm one of those guys that people hate to get behind because I leave early or with enough time to get there. I account for traffic. I leave plenty of room between me and the car in front of me. I have great gas mileage, and low insurance costs, why would I want to ruin that?
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<quoted text>I get that you have a job to do and the right for safety when doing it. You of all people know how a couple of seconds can kill. All I am saying, and what I believe that "blue lights" is saying is that these lights might actually be more dangerous. Nights that are especially dark, those lights have blinded me for a second or two. At 60 MPH that is 88 to 176 feet, or roughly half a football field. The incandescent lights did not, and they were, in my humble opinion, just as effective at alerting people. I believe those that aren’t slowing down, aren’t doing it because they’re not alerted, they’re doing it because they’re self absorbed idiots. I have a family member who has a seizure disorder, and they have to close their eyes when approaching strobe at night.(They don’t drive).
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I'm one of those guys that people hate to get behind because I leave early or with enough time to get there. I account for traffic. I leave plenty of room between me and the car in front of me. I have great gas mileage, and low insurance costs, why would I want to ruin that?
Don't blame you! I wouldn't ruin it either, and thanks for driving with some sense! Wish the self absorbed idiots would! But we will have to disagree on the lights.:)
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<quoted text>But we will have to disagree on the lights.:)
That's pretty much what the state police said when I first discussed the new lighting technology with them years ago. Now they have yet another deceased trooper on their hands. And whether they include anything in the final investigation about the overly bright blue lights contributing to the death or not remains to be seen. I'm betting they won't mention one single word about the bright blinding lights. To do so will give the driver a little more defense, and they certainly don't want to do that.

Having a perfectly clean driving record since I was 15 years old, I can honestly say the bright blinding blue lights is the absolute worst traffic hazard I have ever encountered out here on the highways and byways. I'm actually surprised that more police cars and troopers aren't struck out here after dark.

Another thing I have noticed.... back in the old days we used safety flares to warn oncoming traffic. I have a bad scar on the side of my foot from lighting one of them on Route 250 East at a horrific traffic accident one night. The flare splintered and a piece went down the side of my shoe. We placed these flares far before traffic got to us back then. They worked. But I don't recall seeing flares used for a long time now. You pop over a hill now and have blinding blue lights warning you to slow down in 25 feet. It doesn't work. Do the agencies no longer buy cases of safety flares for the patrol cars?
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Wow! I sure didn't have any intentions of ruining your week. But, stuff happens I suppose. I apologize for ruining your week. But at least everybody else gets to see "the rookie" I spoke of above, the one who loves their bright shiny blue lights. Thanks for stopping in.
I can tell everybody a little more about you. You would like to see the driver in Doswell charged with 1st degree premeditated murder. You would like to see the commonwealth seek the death penalty for her. If convicted, and not given the death penalty, you think she at least deserves life in prison. While serving life, you think there should be a picture of this trooper on her prison cell wall that she has to bow down to and worship morning, noon and night.
OK, back to your questions. What do I want the police to use? I think blue lights that are not visible from 10 miles away would be a start. Slop it up buttercup, this new lighting technology is getting cops killed whether you guys like to admit it or not. And unfortuneately, it causing the best and most honest cops we have (troopers) to get killed out here in high speed zones. The very first reply in this story asked, "Why? How long will this continue to happen"? And you will see that the majority of the posters here agree that the blue strobes are excessively bright and not needed.
I have an idea for a new bumper sticker:
HELP SAVE A COP
WEAR SUNGLASSES AT NIGHT!
:)
ps - I was serious about ruining your week. I'm sorry.
AHAHAHAHHAHAHAAA!!! GAsp...wheeze,,,LOLOLOL!!!

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