Living Wage at UVA Rallies Before Steering Committee Meeting - NBC29 WVIR Charlottesville, VA New...

There are 20 comments on the Dec 12, 2012, NBC29 Charlottesville story titled Living Wage at UVA Rallies Before Steering Committee Meeting - NBC29 WVIR Charlottesville, VA New.... In it, NBC29 Charlottesville reports that:

Living Wage at UVA spoke out once again Wednesday afternoon. The group rallied for one main cause: equal work for equal pay.

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Ice Dogg

Richmond, VA

#1 Dec 12, 2012
And now Michigan will also know the wonders of a right to work state.
thinking free

Charlottesville, VA

#2 Dec 12, 2012
Unions have out lived their cause, time to go after the corperations
Lane High Grad

Silver Spring, MD

#3 Dec 12, 2012
When will these rich kids ever learn? The 7.25 is the real wage and the other is the artificial one.

These jobs should be for those who are on thier way to a REAL job.. they SHOULB be transictional jobs for students, drop outs, the laid off, the retired, whatever else fits while on their way to something better.

If you can learn a job with a half hour instruction from a guy who has been on the job a month then it is UNSKILLED labor and should pay (or not pay) accordingly.

Besides if minimum wage went to 14 bucks an hour all that would happen is landlords would raise rents and a year from now they will be in the exact same standard of living as they have always been.
Lane High Grad

Silver Spring, MD

#5 Dec 12, 2012
As far as unions go there is nothing stopping them from becoming "members only" and not negotiating for the entire group, but of course they never do that because the non union people are willing to be reasonable and don't use the line "not my job" everytime they see a box that needs moved two feet (probably because a union worker left it in the wrong place)

if the unions actually took good care of the rank and file nobody would ever leave them.

Sams club has a 94% renewal rate... maybe that is because they do a better job of keeping their members happy.(with non union "underpaid" workers)(who ain't leavin)
Bologna Streets

Charlottesville, VA

#6 Dec 12, 2012
i love all the armchair union busters. jack of all trades, yet masters of only running the mouth.

next they will claim to know all about em.
twinmom

Charlottesville, VA

#7 Dec 12, 2012
Our country was founded on the principle of freedom. Freedom of speech, freedom of religion, and freedom of association. So why should someone be forced to join and pay dues to a club just so that they can work at a particular job? If unions are such a great thing for the worker, they will get plenty of members voluntarily.

My gosh! There must be oh, about 14 people at this protest. Too bad they haven't read the previous letters from Sullivan and other administrators on the topic. Legally, the University is not permitted to require contractors to pay their employees a set wage. Give it up already.
hooboy

Charlottesville, VA

#8 Dec 12, 2012
Twinmom, I hate to tell you this, but the fact that "Sullivan and other administrators" say something doesn't automatically make it true.

Here're the facts: UVA is well within its legal rights to require contractors to pay higher wages. You know how you can tell? Because another public entity ALREADY DOES IT: the City of Charlottesville. The city has exactly the same legal status as the University, they have a wage parity law, they've never been challenged in court. Consider the possibility - just the possibility, mind you - that the University refuses to take responsibility for its contract employees because they don't feel like it, not because they're legally unable.(Of course, even if the U WERE legally unable, they could still solve the unequal wage problem by not, you know, outsourcing so much labor. Just saying).

Also, unclear what unions have to do with this story - nothing in the report pertains to unions at all. And no UVA employees are being forced to join anything. Where'd you get that idea?
huck

Charlottesville, VA

#9 Dec 13, 2012
hooboy wrote:
they could still solve the unequal wage problem by not, you know, outsourcing so much labor
or just choose to use contractors that pay minimum wage

(signed by me/twinmom/bolognastreets)
hooboy

Charlottesville, VA

#10 Dec 13, 2012
huck wrote:
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or just choose to use contractors that pay minimum wage
(signed by me/twinmom/bolognastreets)
And that would solve the problem of unequal wages....how?

What's your justification for people doing the exact same work but getting paid much less money?
IMPEACH THE MARXIST

Charlottesville, VA

#11 Dec 13, 2012
thinking free wrote:
Unions have out lived their cause, time to go after the corperations
Go after corperations - really. Do you know how stupid you appear when you can't spell a simple word like corporations?

Please enlighten us Brilliant One.
IMPEACH THE MARXIST

Charlottesville, VA

#12 Dec 13, 2012
The labor unions killed the Twinkie. What more proof do you want as to the purpose of unions.

To hell with all of you "Living Wage" crybabies. Give me my Twinkies.
thinking free

Charlottesville, VA

#13 Dec 13, 2012
So strike, strike, strike, it works.
Dude

Warrenton, VA

#14 Dec 14, 2012
IMPEACH THE MARXIST wrote:
The labor unions killed the Twinkie. What more proof do you want as to the purpose of unions.
To hell with all of you "Living Wage" crybabies. Give me my Twinkies.
So the board negotiating with the union to give the employees massive compensation cuts while giving themselves millions in raises despite declining revenues had nothing to do with it? You are very misinformed about the hostess demise. Money has no loyalty and no nationality, better brush up on your Mandarin, because China will have the largest economy in 18 years and we are willingly allowing it. Trickle down works, all the way to China and India. It is a consumer driven economy, and when US citizens can no longer afford crap, we will return to the gilded age.
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BTW, you probably don't get the irony in your position and your posting name. Unions were a huge factor in the demise of the Eastern Bloc nations, look up Lech Walesa and shipyard strikes..
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If you are a student of history, you would understand what happens when the disparity between two classes become too great.
thinking free

Charlottesville, VA

#15 Dec 14, 2012
IMPEACH THE MARXIST wrote:
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Go after corperations - really. Do you know how stupid you appear when you can't spell a simple word like corporations?
Please enlighten us Brilliant One.
Never claimed to be typist, in fact I hire a typist to do all my papers. Do you know how stupid you are? Non of us do Einstein.
huck

Charlottesville, VA

#16 Dec 14, 2012
Dude wrote:
<quoted text>So the board negotiating with the union to give the employees massive compensation cuts while giving themselves millions in raises despite declining revenues had nothing to do with it? You are very misinformed about the hostess demise. Money has no loyalty and no nationality, better brush up on your Mandarin, because China will have the largest economy in 18 years and we are willingly allowing it. Trickle down works, all the way to China and India. It is a consumer driven economy, and when US citizens can no longer afford crap, we will return to the gilded age.
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BTW, you probably don't get the irony in your position and your posting name. Unions were a huge factor in the demise of the Eastern Bloc nations, look up Lech Walesa and shipyard strikes..
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If you are a student of history, you would understand what happens when the disparity between two classes become too great.
http://www.slowpokecomics.com/strips/fiscal-c...
Dude

Bumpass, VA

#17 Dec 25, 2012
Here is a tool for the tools:

http://topincomes.parisschoolofeconomics.eu/#... :

The bottom 90% of the USA average income was $31,470/YR in 1970, in 2010 the average income for the bottom 90% was $29,400/YR despite the fact that the economy grew per capita by almost triple.
Electrician

Radford, VA

#18 Dec 25, 2012
Dude wrote:
Here is a tool for the tools:
http://topincomes.parisschoolofeconomics.eu/#... :
The bottom 90% of the USA average income was $31,470/YR in 1970, in 2010 the average income for the bottom 90% was $29,400/YR despite the fact that the economy grew per capita by almost triple.
I guess those guys I know that got degrees in Greek Music, Ancient Philosophy and Art Appreciation made a poor choice. I became an electrician and they looked down their nose at me. I stay busy and provide for my family while they deliver pizzas and cannot pay their student loans back. Decisions have consequences.
Dude

Bumpass, VA

#19 Dec 25, 2012
Electrician wrote:
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I guess those guys I know that got degrees in Greek Music, Ancient Philosophy and Art Appreciation made a poor choice. I became an electrician and they looked down their nose at me. I stay busy and provide for my family while they deliver pizzas and cannot pay their student loans back. Decisions have consequences.
Only 30% or so have college degrees, and every study suggests that you're lucky. They're more likely to make more than you, you just so happen to have a good trade. It's clear that you work for somebody and are not a residential electrician; most of whom rely on the construction market. Your anecdote is meaningless.
http://soc101.files.wordpress.com/2006/10/edu...

Consequences do have choices, and in a right to work state, they can fire you without cause... or are you IBEW?
Electrician

Radford, VA

#20 Dec 25, 2012
Dude wrote:
<quoted text>Only 30% or so have college degrees, and every study suggests that you're lucky. They're more likely to make more than you, you just so happen to have a good trade. It's clear that you work for somebody and are not a residential electrician; most of whom rely on the construction market. Your anecdote is meaningless.
http://soc101.files.wordpress.com/2006/10/edu...
Consequences do have choices, and in a right to work state, they can fire you without cause... or are you IBEW?
Hate to disagree my friend
I work for myself as I am the owner. I do good honest work at a fair price and have developed a great reputation. With the number of people staying in their current homes I have plenty of work doing upgrades and repairs. On occasion some of the larger contractors will hire me as a sub-contractor.. That is one of the benefits of Va being a Right to Work state
As far a being in a union I am not, but you are correct I can fire myself at any time I wish
btw...MERRY CHRISTMAS AND A GREAT 2013
Dude

Bumpass, VA

#21 Dec 25, 2012
Electrician wrote:
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Hate to disagree my friend
I work for myself as I am the owner. I do good honest work at a fair price and have developed a great reputation. With the number of people staying in their current homes I have plenty of work doing upgrades and repairs. On occasion some of the larger contractors will hire me as a sub-contractor.. That is one of the benefits of Va being a Right to Work state
As far a being in a union I am not, but you are correct I can fire myself at any time I wish
btw...MERRY CHRISTMAS AND A GREAT 2013
Like I posted, you are in the minority. Check the link, you can disagree all you want, but ever bit of evidence points to the contrary.

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