Audit Finds Ineligible People on UVA Health Plan

There are 37 comments on the NBC29 Charlottesville story from Mar 9, 2013, titled Audit Finds Ineligible People on UVA Health Plan. In it, NBC29 Charlottesville reports that:

A pilot audit of the University of Virginia's health plan found 6 percent of employee dependents weren't eligible for coverage.

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2014 Will Be A Surprise

Richmond, VA

#1 Mar 11, 2013
If we had single payer this would not be an issue.

“Equal Opportunity Not Results!”

Since: Nov 08

Charlottesville

#2 Mar 11, 2013
2014 Will Be A Surprise wrote:
If we had single payer this would not be an issue.
If we had single payer the amount of wasted money would increase.
common sense

Palmyra, VA

#3 Mar 11, 2013
2014 Will Be A Surprise wrote:
If we had single payer this would not be an issue.
If people didn't get sick it wouldn't be an issue.
Noah accountability

Charlottesville, VA

#4 Mar 11, 2013
IF the employee responsibile for being sure
INELIGABILE DEPENDENTS were removed on TIME,
the UNIVERSITY would NOT have to pay an OUSIDE AGENCY to do an audit!
I work for UVA, I DO NOT like having to provide
my marriage license, my childs birth certificate, etc etc this is an outrageous violation of our
PRIVACY!
GML resident

Charlottesville, VA

#5 Mar 11, 2013
Noah accountability wrote:
IF the employee responsibile for being sure
INELIGABILE DEPENDENTS were removed on TIME,
the UNIVERSITY would NOT have to pay an OUSIDE AGENCY to do an audit!
I work for UVA, I DO NOT like having to provide
my marriage license, my childs birth certificate, etc etc this is an outrageous violation of our
PRIVACY!
heard that.
UVA HR FAIL

Waynesboro, VA

#6 Mar 11, 2013
Wow, I guess the people that actually handle the HR paperwork a UVA got caught being slackers.

If they were doing their job, then they wouldn't need an outside audit and would actually be earning their keep.
huck

Charlottesville, VA

#7 Mar 11, 2013
"Removing ineligible dependents is expected to save more than $1 million annually."

and cost taxpayers $5 million
huck

Charlottesville, VA

#8 Mar 11, 2013
C-Ville Patriot wrote:
<quoted text>If we had single payer the amount of wasted money would increase.
then why does the US spend more per capita on healthcare than any other nation on earth
Local view 9

Madison, VA

#9 Mar 11, 2013
Noah accountability wrote:
IF the employee responsibile for being sure
INELIGABILE DEPENDENTS were removed on TIME,
the UNIVERSITY would NOT have to pay an OUSIDE AGENCY to do an audit!
I work for UVA, I DO NOT like having to provide
my marriage license, my childs birth certificate, etc etc this is an outrageous violation of our
PRIVACY!
Think about it for a second. UVA is paying for a majority of you health plan. You are in a business contract with them. They have every right to ask for documentation to verify eligibility of coverage for whoever is on there plan. If you don't like the rules or regulations of ther plan, feel free to drop them and go out on your own.
Disillusioned

Charlottesville, VA

#10 Mar 11, 2013
Noah accountability wrote:
IF the employee responsibile for being sure
INELIGABILE DEPENDENTS were removed on TIME,
the UNIVERSITY would NOT have to pay an OUSIDE AGENCY to do an audit!
I work for UVA, I DO NOT like having to provide
my marriage license, my childs birth certificate, etc etc this is an outrageous violation of our
PRIVACY!
Well, but they don't and that's the problem. Perhaps if those who are caught not taking someone off were fined, then maybe others would be more careful.

Sorry for the extra work, but in these days and times, if you want your family to be on the University's health insurance this is what is required. Sad that others' failure to do the right thing now causes others extra effort. But if it saves $1million, and your co-pays and dependent coverage amounts don't go up next year, it will be worth it, right?
citizen

Charlottesville, VA

#11 Mar 11, 2013
This is the first audit of UVA's health plan? Now, just think if a NATIONAL audit of health plans were to be done.
cville

Charlottesville, VA

#12 Mar 11, 2013
if uva would do more looking into things they would find uva employees lie on there time cards there so many people around here getting away with so much stuff
citizen

Charlottesville, VA

#13 Mar 11, 2013
Noah accountability wrote:
IF the employee responsibile for being sure
INELIGABILE DEPENDENTS were removed on TIME,
the UNIVERSITY would NOT have to pay an OUSIDE AGENCY to do an audit!
I work for UVA, I DO NOT like having to provide
my marriage license, my childs birth certificate, etc etc this is an outrageous violation of our
PRIVACY!
Millions in this country use the word "privacy" to conceal their fraud that everybody else gets to pay for through their taxes. I have private insurance and I always have to show an identification and that is fine by me since I HAVE NOTHING TO HIDE. Hopefully these checks will help to expose those that collect public assistance by using several different names and addresses.
King Ralph

Charlottesville, VA

#14 Mar 11, 2013
C-Ville Patriot wrote:
<quoted text>If we had single payer the amount of wasted money would increase.
Not true at all. Right now healthcare costs are being hidden from the public because they rarely know (or care) how much their employer is paying for their healthcare plan, which ultimately is money that could be used to pay them.

Also it provides no discouragement for fat slobs and those with unhealthy habits to change, as their health care costs are all going into a nebulous "pool" that they don't understand, which affects the ultimate pricing of their insurance without them knowing, and flattens it out against the responsible people who never have to use it because they keep in shape. If they had to pay more for their health care, it might encourage them to stay in shape (and save EVERYONE money).

Lastly, there are a number of protectionist and preferential policies built into health plans that do not exist in any other industry. For instance, no other industry can charge you one price if you're in their network and a much higher price (which may not be elective if you have an emergency, accident, or childbirth), and yet charge you basically whatever they want if you're not, with NO oversight. The law also states that you MUST have an in-state healthcare plan, which means competition is artificially limited. You also cannot import medicine from other countries, where the pharmaceutical companies routinely charge 10-50% of what they charge in the US, because they do not have a market helpless to shop around.

Employer health care is what has allowed the industry to turn into such a ridiculous, expensive boondoggle.
Noah accountability

Charlottesville, VA

#15 Mar 11, 2013
Local view 9 wrote:
<quoted text>
Think about it for a second. UVA is paying for a majority of you health plan. You are in a business contract with them. They have every right to ask for documentation to verify eligibility of coverage for whoever is on there plan. If you don't like the rules or regulations of ther plan, feel free to drop them and go out on your own.
...MY point is, IF the person(s) ressponsible for this job of verifying and upkeeping the records actually did the job, UVA would not have to pay (I wonder what that cost is) an OUTSIDE company to do this. THIS increases the risk of identity theft and is an invasion of MY privacy. I have no problem providing DIRECTLY to my employer
anything they need to secure healh care coverage for me and my family.
Noah accountability

Charlottesville, VA

#16 Mar 11, 2013
Disillusioned wrote:
<quoted text>
Well, but they don't and that's the problem. Perhaps if those who are caught not taking someone off were fined, then maybe others would be more careful.
Sorry for the extra work, but in these days and times, if you want your family to be on the University's health insurance this is what is required. Sad that others' failure to do the right thing now causes others extra effort. But if it saves $1million, and your co-pays and dependent coverage amounts don't go up next year, it will be worth it, right?
...now that FUNNY...if the co pays and cost dont go up?!? Sure...
BYW, in the documents, if I read them correctly...it states that if you did not remove a dependant when you should have...you will be responsible for ANY MEDICAL CLAIMS PAID!!
By The Way

Alexandria, VA

#17 Mar 11, 2013
Save money by firing the employees that cheated on their health plans.

“Equal Opportunity Not Results!”

Since: Nov 08

Charlottesville

#18 Mar 11, 2013
King Ralph wrote:
<quoted text>
Not true at all. Right now healthcare costs are being hidden from the public because they rarely know (or care) how much their employer is paying for their healthcare plan, which ultimately is money that could be used to pay them.
Also it provides no discouragement for fat slobs and those with unhealthy habits to change, as their health care costs are all going into a nebulous "pool" that they don't understand, which affects the ultimate pricing of their insurance without them knowing, and flattens it out against the responsible people who never have to use it because they keep in shape. If they had to pay more for their health care, it might encourage them to stay in shape (and save EVERYONE money).
Lastly, there are a number of protectionist and preferential policies built into health plans that do not exist in any other industry. For instance, no other industry can charge you one price if you're in their network and a much higher price (which may not be elective if you have an emergency, accident, or childbirth), and yet charge you basically whatever they want if you're not, with NO oversight. The law also states that you MUST have an in-state healthcare plan, which means competition is artificially limited. You also cannot import medicine from other countries, where the pharmaceutical companies routinely charge 10-50% of what they charge in the US, because they do not have a market helpless to shop around.
Employer health care is what has allowed the industry to turn into such a ridiculous, expensive boondoggle.
And this is an argument for Gov. run single payer/universal healthcare/Obamacare how?
King Ralph

Charlottesville, VA

#19 Mar 11, 2013
C-Ville Patriot wrote:
<quoted text>And this is an argument for Gov. run single payer/universal healthcare/Obamacare how?
I didn't say anything about Government run healthcare, just single payer (they aren't synonyms btw). France has a very good system, a base government insurance option with the ability to buy private, premium insurance coverage (of course the French tend to be healthier than Americans).

The biggest benefit of the US system is that our research and development of new medical procedures and drugs is light years ahead of anywhere else. The tradeoff is that even in the non-government parts of the system, there is an unbelievable amount of profiteering, waste, fraud, back alley sweetheart deals for doctors who will perform unnecessary surgeries or prescriptions, nepotistic regulation from the FDA (especially on drugs), and money shuffled to the board members at the top to the detriment of small time doctors, staff, and patients.

And anyone who thinks Obamacare is either an actual single payer system, or is anything but a huge tax is an idiot. It does nothing to address the major issues we have. Of course, nothing the Republicans have offered as an alternative is worth anything either, because they're getting almost as many kickbacks from the industry as Democrats.
I wish

Charlottesville, VA

#20 Mar 11, 2013
By The Way wrote:
Save money by firing the employees that cheated on their health plans.
Awww, you're so cute thinking that UVA would ever fire anyone they should. This place is a sick, moldy breedy ground for bullies and cowards in leadership who are too chickens**t to stand up to them.

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