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Big Red One

Paducah, KY

#22 Jan 12, 2014
rufus wrote:
dept. of homeland security should pay you because they dropped the ball over the last decade in protecting our waterways and drinking supplies
The Dept. of Homeland Security has no role in monitoring routine industrial safety. Its job is to protect against terrorism. Guarding against industrial accidents is the job of the EPA, which most people in Appalachia seem to want abolished.
rhino

Charleston, WV

#23 Jan 12, 2014
Big Red One wrote:
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The Dept. of Homeland Security has no role in monitoring routine industrial safety. Its job is to protect against terrorism. Guarding against industrial accidents is the job of the EPA, which most people in Appalachia seem to want abolished.
are you saying homeland security isn't responsible for guarding against toxic chemicals being dumped into a major cities water supply? Are they only responsible for checking childrens shoes at the airport? If the terrorist got a job at an industrial plant to intentionally kill us all then homeland is not responsible....is that you ridiculous argument......we pay billions in taxes to fund homeland security...
BOHICA

Ona, WV

#24 Jan 12, 2014
Freedom will file for bankruptcy and change their name. Their liability will be $0.
WV American water will settle, then pass their losses back to the public in form of higher rates. Their net profits will increase.
Union public service and other sewage companies will charge you for processing the additional water whether you flush it or run it on the ground.
And the real winners will be the lawyers.
gay

Ironton, OH

#25 Jan 12, 2014
You don't have a contract your not guaranteed money your job and check isn't promised to you stuff happens you're just gonna have to deal with it
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Agreed

Ashford, WV

#28 Jan 12, 2014
gay wrote:
You don't have a contract your not guaranteed money your job and check isn't promised to you stuff happens you're just gonna have to deal with it
It's called a savings account. If you don't have 4 or 5 days wages saved it's not anyone's fault but your own.
Big Red One

Paducah, KY

#29 Jan 12, 2014
rhino wrote:
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are you saying homeland security isn't responsible for guarding against toxic chemicals being dumped into a major cities water supply? Are they only responsible for checking childrens shoes at the airport? If the terrorist got a job at an industrial plant to intentionally kill us all then homeland is not responsible....is that you ridiculous argument......we pay billions in taxes to fund homeland security...
That is right. Homeland Security is NOT responsible for preventing industrial accidents. It's job, as I said before, is to protect against deliberate acts by terrorists. Even if it had been actively guarding the perimeter of the chemical plant, and was screening its employees to prevent a terrorist from getting a job there, it has no legal authority, and no expertise, to monitor that plant for routine industrial safety. Repeat: That is the job of the Environmental Protection Agency.

Did EPA drop the ball on this one? The answer appears to be "yes." But then again, EPA does not monitor all facilities all the time. It does not have the funding or the personnel to do so. It just does periodic inspections. And, again, people in Appalachia seem to be strongly opposed to EPA even existing.
Big Red One

Paducah, KY

#30 Jan 12, 2014
BOHICA wrote:
Freedom will file for bankruptcy and change their name. Their liability will be $0.
WV American water will settle, then pass their losses back to the public in form of higher rates. Their net profits will increase.
Union public service and other sewage companies will charge you for processing the additional water whether you flush it or run it on the ground.
And the real winners will be the lawyers.
You are absolutely, 100 percent right on all counts.
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Sticky Fingers

Clarksburg, WV

#33 Jan 12, 2014
How easy would it be for a terrorist to shoot holes in these tanks from a distance with a high power riffle. Get these chemical tanks away from water supplies. I'm sure they are taking notes on how easy it would be.
Big Red One

Paducah, KY

#34 Jan 12, 2014
Sticky Fingers wrote:
How easy would it be for a terrorist to shoot holes in these tanks from a distance with a high power riffle. Get these chemical tanks away from water supplies. I'm sure they are taking notes on how easy it would be.
I have a feeling that the metal is too thick for an ordinary 30-06 to shoot a hole through it.

Something to think about:

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/west...

Now consider this: What if the EPA, before the accident, had appeared on the scene and ordered that the chemical tanks be removed? There would have been a huge public outcry about "EPA is killing jobs!"
BOHICA

Huntington, WV

#35 Jan 12, 2014
As long as the people in WV are suspicious of the government and only put their faith in what they hear on FAUX news, they will continue to suffer.
These companies should be regulated by an entity other than themselves. Time we stand up for ourselves.
After this is over, they will take their profits back to NY and NJ business as usual.
This is why WV has all of these under regulated plants. Jobs, jobs, jobs and hell with the citizens.
Big Red One

Paducah, KY

#36 Jan 12, 2014
BOHICA wrote:
As long as the people in WV are suspicious of the government and only put their faith in what they hear on FAUX news, they will continue to suffer.
These companies should be regulated by an entity other than themselves. Time we stand up for ourselves.
After this is over, they will take their profits back to NY and NJ business as usual.
This is why WV has all of these under regulated plants. Jobs, jobs, jobs and hell with the citizens.
According to this, Freedom Industries has ties to Koch Bros. industries:

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/01/11/1268...
John

Charleston, WV

#37 Jan 12, 2014
No one is going to get any money from this except a few lawyers who filed the first lawsuits. Freedom Industries probably has between one and three million in insurance (if they have insurance at all). That's not gonna go very far after the lawyers take their cut.
scotty

Charleston, WV

#38 Jan 12, 2014
U_dont_know_me89 wrote:
The only thing I want compensated for is for missing work!
heck id go to welfare office they should help' they help the lazy bums who dont want to work
scotty

Charleston, WV

#39 Jan 12, 2014
Big Red One wrote:
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That is right. Homeland Security is NOT responsible for preventing industrial accidents. It's job, as I said before, is to protect against deliberate acts by terrorists. Even if it had been actively guarding the perimeter of the chemical plant, and was screening its employees to prevent a terrorist from getting a job there, it has no legal authority, and no expertise, to monitor that plant for routine industrial safety. Repeat: That is the job of the Environmental Protection Agency.
Did EPA drop the ball on this one? The answer appears to be "yes." But then again, EPA does not monitor all facilities all the time. It does not have the funding or the personnel to do so. It just does periodic inspections. And, again, people in Appalachia seem to be strongly opposed to EPA even existing.
the EPA by law job is to do inspeckions just showing up and doing it' like mine inspectors do' there not doing there job or are they getting payed off
Coal Catastrophe

Oak Hill, WV

#40 Jan 13, 2014
BOHICA wrote:
Freedom will file for bankruptcy and change their name. Their liability will be $0.
WV American water will settle, then pass their losses back to the public in form of higher rates. Their net profits will increase.
Union public service and other sewage companies will charge you for processing the additional water whether you flush it or run it on the ground.
And the real winners will be the lawyers.
UNLESS we the public demand the root cause of this -- Big Coal, helps to pay for this. Our politicians could raise taxes on all parts of coal. Much of this coal is metal coal (China) and we can get power from Natural Gas ... Besides coal companies can take a little less profit where the water company is a Public Regulated Company and can't make tons of profits.

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Bubba

Huntington, WV

#41 Jan 13, 2014
The people of this great state speak out every time they go to the polls.
They listen to the likes of Sarah Palin, Rush Limbaugh, Ann Coulter and believe only what FOX news tells them. Smaller government, less restrictions and no controls placed on big business will always lead to preventable disasters like this. The people in KY are still suffering from the slurry spill that happened over 10 years ago. Why do people from Appalachia think that Big Business can be trusted to self regulate?
Time we should all wake up!
Leeching

Charleston, WV

#42 Jan 13, 2014
Good God here we go again with low lifes bitching wanting another free handout. The leeching never ends.
handy

Charleston, WV

#43 Jan 13, 2014
get a job on the water cleanup crew.. oh wait, that is probably union controlled and they have flunkies getting paid to sit in the office of freedom just to call it a union job
Mskamish

Charleston, WV

#44 Jan 13, 2014
Many bigger eateries have Business Interuption Insurance Coverage, to minimize losses. I think that individuals may be permitted to offset THEIR PERSONAL losses as a result of the Declaration by FEMA.

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