Tomblin needs to slap teachers around
yikes

Charleston, WV

#23 Mar 9, 2013
humph wrote:
I would LOVE for you to work one week as a teacher and see if you have the same attitude.. because I guarantee that you wouldn't....
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If you can't take the heat then get out of the kitchen. You made your bed now sleep in it..........stop boohooing and get with the program. The free rides are over!
humph

Belle, WV

#24 Mar 10, 2013
What are you blabbering about?? If you took a poll of kids that had parents involved in their education from BIRTH , and ones that had "oh let the schools teach them, that'd their jobs". I guarantee that the ones that had active parents are higher achieving and have higher test scores than the ones with parents that simply don't care until their kid is failing.... Responsibility is learned from a young age, and if it isn't instilled early , it is a lifetime of blaming others for your own failures....
What do you think happens in school? Why do some kids score really high, yet some don't? The same teacher goes over the same material with both children, so what do you suppose that one kid learns it and one doesnt???? You blame the teachers for the ones that don't care, yet dont praise the same teachers that their students score extremely high??? Do you not see the hypocrasy?
yikes wrote:
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If you can't take the heat then get out of the kitchen. You made your bed now sleep in it..........stop boohooing and get with the program. The free rides are over!
taxpayer-2

Charleston, WV

#25 Mar 10, 2013
A teacher is pretty much an entertainer that babysits someone else's obnoxious, rude, and condescending children of parents/guardians that think their child/children is just "the perfect little angel".
sacharin

Ona, WV

#26 Mar 11, 2013
a teachers is just a person that never has had a job in the real world other than in education and has been raised/brainwashed by the education system to believe they are omnipotent. teachers would struggle trying to function in real society based employment with real issues having to deal with real functioning, mature adults. they could no longer blame the child or the parent for there educational impotence.
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Hillbilly

Baltimore, MD

#28 Mar 11, 2013
I am not a teacher but I can see the point. Education in WV ranked 47th or 48th in the US. Now take a look at teachers salaries in the US. Were are they ranked. It's not rocket surgery. The best teachers are not going to come to or stay in WV, they are going were the money is.
wow

Charleston, WV

#29 Mar 11, 2013
the pay is consistant with the ranking in this state and other states. no its not the pay, its the teachers and staff that are running businesses out of thier rooms and such. stay on their cell phones, dress like teenagers.... and on and on without doing their jobs
santiago

Ona, WV

#30 Mar 11, 2013
it's time for teachers not to be hired until they are at least 30 years old. the 23 year olds can't handle their personal lives let alone a room full of children. our education now suffers because the young adults of today think everything is communal and they try to teach that way. let them sit in on class rooms for a couple years at a substantially reduce pay and get a real feel of the real reality not the facebook/twitter reality of life.
wow

Charleston, WV

#31 Mar 11, 2013
agreed
humph

Chesapeake, OH

#32 Mar 11, 2013
What?!?! Your solution to attracting better teachers is to substantially cut their pay for 7-8 years?? Yeah that will work.....

You are both so out of touch with reality that you have no idea what is going on.... The young teachers aren't the problem.. younger teachers understand today's social landscapes and can adapt.and change teaching styles to suit the pupils they are teaching.

I highly believe that anyone in this thread that is bashing teachers either 1, doesn't even have a kid, or 2, is so old that they haven't had a child in school for 20+ years.

Get with the times and learn a little, if parents took the time to learn a little and inspire their kids, most of these problems would disappear.
whatthe

Ona, WV

#33 Mar 11, 2013
.......... is so old that they haven't had a child in school for 20+ years.
Get with the times and learn a little, if parents took the time to learn a little and inspire their kids, most of these problems would disappear.
The "times" are that todays education is worse than 20+ years ago. Possibly the teachers should go back to 30-40 students in a class like it was 20+ years ago, possibly they should get off the web, cellphones, twitter and their ipads like it was 20+ years ago.
The "times" are that the teachers should stop posting on forums all day and figure out why they are going to lose their jobs if they don't start shaping up. The "times" are, what they are doing now isn't working it's time for a change. The "times" are that change is coming. The "times" are that the rhetoric stops now! The "times" are that evaluations will determine pay or release.
humph

Chesapeake, OH

#34 Mar 11, 2013
Hahaha you people still amaze me... 20 years ago there was no internet, no real video games, no dvr's no dvd's not many people even had a VCR..... 20 years ago, parents actually cared about their child's education, and assisted with it, these days its easier to sit the child in front of a TV to babysit it while they do whatever except raise it.....

If you believe that a parent has no responsibility in their child's education, you sad sadly mistaken.
frustrated

Charleston, WV

#35 Mar 11, 2013
I agree with one of the posts that all a teacher really amounts to is being a glorified babysitter to obnoxious, rude, and condescending children of parents that are completely benign of what their children are really involved with outside of the home.
Leonard

Troy, VA

#36 Mar 11, 2013
Tomblin may very well need his jaws smacked red. Then could run to the corner and put the Dunce hat on. Hahahahaha!
sasquatch

Ona, WV

#37 Mar 11, 2013
if teach can't cut it then get another job
kingcoil

Ona, WV

#38 Mar 11, 2013
teachers are a bunch of idiots that blame parents for the teachers lack of achieving what they are trained and educated to do. what are teachers paid for? what are they supposed to accomplish? the numbers don't lie. teachers aren't making the grade. change the system now cause it's broke so fix it.
Taxpayer

Charleston, WV

#39 Mar 11, 2013
humph wrote:
<quoted text>You are totally clueless.... A lot of teachers work year round, you know, summer school, summer camps, teach summer classes, and I would LOVE for you to work one week as a teacher and see if you have the same attitude.. because I guarantee that you wouldn't....
Oh good lord, now you are whining.

Want a little cheese for that whine?
humph

Belle, WV

#40 Mar 11, 2013
Since when is stating a fact, considered whining?
Taxpayer wrote:
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Oh good lord, now you are whining.
Want a little cheese for that whine?
Aggravated

Hurricane, WV

#41 Mar 13, 2013
Some of the comments on here are ridiculously ignorant! It is easy to talk about someone else's profession, when you have never done it! A couple of points..... If you are an elementary teacher you are lucky to only get 20 students at a time, however if you are secondary you more than likely see 200+ students a day. The average teacher gets 45 minutes to grade their work and plan for the week not to mention make phone calls home, copies, and deal with the retesting or tutoring of students with an IEP (just to name a few). They must take work home with them(which very few people have to do), because of time restraints throughout the day Nd throughout the summer most are working a second job because that "large" salary that they get paid doesn't cut it. They also have to do continuing education which is mandated by the state and do plan and attend classes and workshops throughout the summer. And it doesn't matter how interesting they make what they teach, if they have a student with learned helplessness then what are they to do? You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make them drink! A child learns motivation, drive, and responsibility or the lack there of from home, not from their teacher. I'm in no way shape or form saying that you don't have some bad teachers, you have rotten apples in every bunch no matter what profession you are talking about, but let's get real people! Morals and values are taught at home and if education is not valued there, there is little a teacher can do once they get ahold of the child!
head scratcher

Ridgeview, WV

#42 Mar 13, 2013
Aggravated wrote:
Some of the comments on here are ridiculously ignorant! It is easy to talk about someone else's profession, when you have never done it! A couple of points..... If you are an elementary teacher you are lucky to only get 20 students at a time, however if you are secondary you more than likely see 200+ students a day. The average teacher gets 45 minutes to grade their work and plan for the week not to mention make phone calls home, copies, and deal with the retesting or tutoring of students with an IEP (just to name a few). They must take work home with them(which very few people have to do), because of time restraints throughout the day Nd throughout the summer most are working a second job because that "large" salary that they get paid doesn't cut it. They also have to do continuing education which is mandated by the state and do plan and attend classes and workshops throughout the summer. And it doesn't matter how interesting they make what they teach, if they have a student with learned helplessness then what are they to do? You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make them drink! A child learns motivation, drive, and responsibility or the lack there of from home, not from their teacher. I'm in no way shape or form saying that you don't have some bad teachers, you have rotten apples in every bunch no matter what profession you are talking about, but let's get real people! Morals and values are taught at home and if education is not valued there, there is little a teacher can do once they get ahold of the child!
You telling us all the reasons you can't do your job because other people aren't helping you do it. Then you say you need more money to continue not doing your job. I got an idea how about improving your standards that you expect out of yourself, improve your students test scores then we'll talk about more money. If you can't do the job don't blame other people just change jobs. I make $47,000 a year, I supervise 150 people daily and I take ownership of my responsibilities so your boohooing about needing more money to do less falls on deaf ears.
People

Hurricane, WV

#43 Mar 13, 2013
head scratcher wrote:
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You telling us all the reasons you can't do your job because other people aren't helping you do it. Then you say you need more money to continue not doing your job. I got an idea how about improving your standards that you expect out of yourself, improve your students test scores then we'll talk about more money. If you can't do the job don't blame other people just change jobs. I make $47,000 a year, I supervise 150 people daily and I take ownership of my
responsibilities so your boohooing about needing
more money to do less falls on deaf ears.
I love it your so right. I think they need less money for what they do.

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