Should the WV Legislators mandate higher educational standards for Magistrates?

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grasshopper

Dunbar, WV

#1 Nov 12, 2012
State legislators concerned with protecting the Judicial system of West Virginia should consider enhancing the educational requirements for the position of Magistrate. The decisions made by Magistrates do have life impacting consequences and in many instances do impact the "rights/freedom" of its citizens. It is far better to require higher educational standards for the Magistrates then to allow "wrong decisions" made out of "simple" ignorance by poorly educated Magistrates which results in injury on the life of its citizens.
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yea

Huntington, WV

#3 Nov 14, 2012
grasshopper wrote:
State legislators concerned with protecting the Judicial system of West Virginia should consider enhancing the educational requirements for the position of Magistrate. The decisions made by Magistrates do have life impacting consequences and in many instances do impact the "rights/freedom" of its citizens. It is far better to require higher educational standards for the Magistrates then to allow "wrong decisions" made out of "simple" ignorance by poorly educated Magistrates which results in injury on the life of its citizens.
No they should just establish some form of responsibility beyond getting voted out of office. If Magistrates were held civilly responsible for their decisions then they would quit with the bull shit.
City Girl

AOL

#4 Nov 14, 2012
Sounds as if some Magistrate has stepped on someone's toes! If you want them to have more education, then go the Legislature. A College Degree does not make one any smarter than a Magistrate who has had years of experience. I have seen lawyers go the Magistrates and ask them questions about the law. Sounds as if you need to become better educated, then you wouldn't have to post such ignorant crap on this site.
student

Dunbar, WV

#5 Nov 15, 2012
if education doesn't make a person 'smarter' and better equipped to make decisions in our lives, then why the big push on all of us to get a college degree?
Thought Police

Parkersburg, WV

#6 Nov 16, 2012
student wrote:
if education doesn't make a person 'smarter' and better equipped to make decisions in our lives, then why the big push on all of us to get a college degree?
Because they want you to get several thousand dollars into debt on student loans. The interest adds up over like 10 years, they make a killing. In my graduating class I bet at least 60 or 70% of them enrolled in college. I am almost positive that 90% of them didn't even make it to sophomore year. I work in a shitty restaurant with 3 people who have at least a 4 year college degree. The only difference between them and me is that I don't have 7 or 8 grand in student loan debt.
sayn no to crap

Dunbar, WV

#7 Nov 21, 2012
don't buy into that BS that 'experience' is equivalent to an education. no way -- not on any day. tell that crap to the patient that's gonna have surgery -- which do you want somebody with "life" experience OR somebody that has studied and trained to be a surgeon. being a "judge" "magistrate" make decisions about people's lives. education helps everyone to have a greater understanding about people, choices---
people graduate from college and a lot of times have to take jobs in order to live and pay their bills. difference being is that person with the college degree always has the opportunity of applying for jobs that a person without a degree doesn't have.
WVgalagain

AOL

#8 Nov 21, 2012
Most of WV Magistrate Judges have college degrees and yes, some have written the Board of Regents Degree Program, just as many from other professions have done. Some of you people posting on this site have had an unpleasant experience with the Magistrate Court and are bitter. However, should you have kept your nose clean you wouldn't have been in Magistrate Court in the first place. I know one frequent complainer, a woman living on the Blvd.(west) that claims to have a degree in Social Work and she does not! She has forged her certificates. Yet, she is on Topix daily complaining about something. I think she just needs a job.
Louise

AOL

#9 Nov 21, 2012
sayn no to crap wrote:
don't buy into that BS that 'experience' is equivalent to an education. no way -- not on any day. tell that crap to the patient that's gonna have surgery -- which do you want somebody with "life" experience OR somebody that has studied and trained to be a surgeon. being a "judge" "magistrate" make decisions about people's lives. education helps everyone to have a greater understanding about people, choices---
people graduate from college and a lot of times have to take jobs in order to live and pay their bills. difference being is that person with the college degree always has the opportunity of applying for jobs that a person without a degree doesn't have.
You are wrong my dear. Think about what you have written here. Go back to where you just came from. Sow your seeds on the west coast, but not WV.
Louise

AOL

#10 Nov 21, 2012
yea wrote:
<quoted text>
No they should just establish some form of responsibility beyond getting voted out of office. If Magistrates were held civilly responsible for their decisions then they would quit with the bull shit.
What about your Circuit Judges or Supreme Court Judges? Do you know that some of them came in near the bottom of their classes? That is they if they didn't get electe4d as a Judge, they could not make a living as a lawyer. Do you complain about any of these people? God only knows you have been in front of several of them. Let's see you write about your experiences in Circuit Court.
Tiny Tim

AOL

#11 Nov 21, 2012
Louise wrote:
<quoted text> You are wrong my dear. Think about what you have written here. Go back to where you just came from. Sow your seeds on the west coast, but not WV.
I know this big fat a.. woman, a dyke, who has a degree in Elem. Education who won't work because she has something wrong with her big fat legs! Or so she says. She waddles back and forth to the bars tho and collects a check. That Degree ain't doing her one bit of good.
yea

Charleston, WV

#12 Nov 21, 2012
Louise wrote:
<quoted text>What about your Circuit Judges or Supreme Court Judges? Do you know that some of them came in near the bottom of their classes? That is they if they didn't get electe4d as a Judge, they could not make a living as a lawyer. Do you complain about any of these people? God only knows you have been in front of several of them. Let's see you write about your experiences in Circuit Court.
Being a magistrate is a far cry from being a judge. Judges at least have the education, whether they are bad at being a lawyer or not. A magistrates job is little more than deciding probable cause, issuing arrest warrants, and dealing with infractions like traffic violations. Magistrates basically make the initial decisions, something that should be fairly simple even with limited experience. But like in all things people begin just going along with what has been done in the past, or even just shortcutting the process regardless of the consequences. The system has become a money racket in small towns. They charge people regardless of the evidence, they cross their fingers and hope that the accused is willing to agree to a quick payoff to avoid the threat of greater trouble. Sad really. But it's due to zero oversight and next to no options for a normal person to combat the corruption or even seek their basic rights in many cases.
methatswho

AOL

#13 Nov 22, 2012
sayn no to crap wrote:
don't buy into that BS that 'experience' is equivalent to an education. no way -- not on any day. tell that crap to the patient that's gonna have surgery -- which do you want somebody with "life" experience OR somebody that has studied and trained to be a surgeon. being a "judge" "magistrate" make decisions about people's lives. education helps everyone to have a greater understanding about people, choices---
people graduate from college and a lot of times have to take jobs in order to live and pay their bills. difference being is that person with the college degree always has the opportunity of applying for jobs that a person without a degree doesn't have.
I would want someone with a Medical Degree plus 20 years experience! Judges are trained on a daily basis, dealing with dumb asses like yourself.
whodat

AOL

#14 Nov 22, 2012
grasshopper wrote:
State legislators concerned with protecting the Judicial system of West Virginia should consider enhancing the educational requirements for the position of Magistrate. The decisions made by Magistrates do have life impacting consequences and in many instances do impact the "rights/freedom" of its citizens. It is far better to require higher educational standards for the Magistrates then to allow "wrong decisions" made out of "simple" ignorance by poorly educated Magistrates which results in injury on the life of its citizens.
I have heard stories of the old Justice Of Peace system. This new system cam into effect about 30 years ago and could use some revamping, I am certain. Some Magistrates are good and others bad - just like in any profession. Sounds as if you have sour grapes to share. Do you have a job? Then if so, look at your place where you work. Let me come in and evaluate your performance! Ha - say it ain't so Geraldine.
talkin parrot

Dunbar, WV

#15 Nov 28, 2012
keepin things the same provides safety for those already in position, but can and does lead to stagnation for the community.
justme

AOL

#16 Dec 2, 2012
student wrote:
if education doesn't make a person 'smarter' and better equipped to make decisions in our lives, then why the big push on all of us to get a college degree?
Dear STUDENT: I'll bet cha your parents didn't have no degree from college and your chances are slim to none you will have a college degree. Look at our forefathers of this Country (USA) did they all have college degrees? Hell NO! I knowJohn D. Rockfeller didn't have a college degree when he made billions of dollars and his name still lives on. You don't have to go to college to just have plain ole COMMON SENSE.
newkidontheblox

AOL

#17 Dec 2, 2012
talkin parrot wrote:
keepin things the same provides safety for those already in position, but can and does lead to stagnation for the community.
What else is new in the great state of West Virginia? It has always had the "good ole boys system" and that's why this state is last in everything on the Planet. Talk Stagnation? huh? Where do you work? If you do work, I would like to evaluate your job performance and that of your company. Is this the POT calling the KETTLE BLACK??? Bet it is. Oh yeah, WV is stagnet in all forms of its government. Look who they have hired in Gov.'s. Office and you silly people voted for an idiot from Mingo Co. Now that my dear, is really a joke.Look at your Supreme Court, Circuit Court, Family Courts -who would have ever thought the staff hired for the suckers at the trough of public office.

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