Source Sales aka Carl Crowder Auctions
wvgurl

United States

#24 Sep 16, 2012
Tried to go to the auction up georges creek last night, got there around 7 and the place was deserted. Any clue when they have it?
victim of source sales

Shelbyville, KY

#25 Sep 16, 2012
I have turned my problem over to the WV Attorney General. The item I bought was guarantee money back if I had a problem and could be returned for a refund within 7 days. They wrote me a check that bounced and lied to me and my family several times making promises that weren't kept. They are dishonest and are cheating people. I do know they are running another auction in VA. and if no one was there when you went; they might have closed down. They are not responding to the attempts made by the Attorney General office so I am praying that charges will be filed even if I have to do it. I am also hoping that anyone that has been cheated by these people will also file a complaint. I might not get my money back but I do know that there is a greater judgement when it comes to people who lie and cheat and are dishonest. They stole my money.
TravelJule wrote:
I have been to this Auction Place probably 50 or more times. I have never had a major problem, but then again I listen to my gut instinct. I never buy any large items or electronics from them. If I buy any small electronic items from them, I have it tested before I leave the building. Buyer Beware: This is an addictive setting and its easy to be "sucked" in to certain sales, etc. Anything I've ever had that needed to be returned they have given me credit for it..the catch is, the credit is only good for a certain night of the week and it has to be at least a week from when you return it???? This could definitely be improved for better customer service. My advice is only buy the small things there, like $5-$20 items. Don't invest any big money there!! Currently the bathroom hasn't been working and you have to use an outside rented outhouse. Bring hand sanitizer if you go. Hopefully they can get their act together, treat customers right, fix their bathroom, CLEAN the place (I mean a mop and broom never hurt anyone), get rid of the rats, keep the dogs from roaming the ailes during the auction. Also fishy that they won't accept credit cards, cash and check only so they can get money immediately. Even with all that would I still go again, probably, because I'm used to the place but once again, use common sense, make sure its something you really "need" before you bid and test all your products before you pay. I don't even know if they're still open. There was no one there last night and of course the phone number listed is out of service. If this place wished to cotinue to stay in business, they need to have a website and/or facebook page, DEDICATED phone number and own up to their customers! Hope this helps someone. Thanks!
victim of source sales

Shelbyville, KY

#26 Sep 16, 2012
wvgurl wrote:
Tried to go to the auction up georges creek last night, got there around 7 and the place was deserted. Any clue when they have it?
I guess they have skipped out. They have started another auction in VA is what I have been told. They are dishonest people.
rippedoff

Hurricane, WV

#27 Oct 10, 2012
Bought and paid for an item last March or April, they "lost" it, I never got it, can't get a returned phone call or email. Last few times I was there, bathrooms out of order, notices from health department hanging everywhere, bad smells, insects, pretty dirty, big water-filled holes in parking lot, no lights, parking is crazy, State Fire Marshall came one night and shut the place down. Handling food in kitchen with bare hands, even though the bathrooms are out of order, one of the employees there warned me not to eat certain items sold there. Stuff never works when you get it home. People act like starved dogs fighting for raw meat when they throw out a box full of purses for folks to fight over. Other than all that, its not too bad...its worse than bad.
joe blow

Moneta, VA

#28 Oct 14, 2012
Carl crowder runs a very legal business ...people get pissed off cause they get caught in the bidding war and after they leave they feel they might have paid to much for something....yeah he has water problems at the creek but he has been trying to fix the problems....has anyone that is complaining bout the location been there in awhile to see the improvements he is making .......if not maybe u should!!!!!!!!!
victim of source sales

Shelbyville, KY

#29 Oct 14, 2012
joe blow wrote:
Carl crowder runs a very legal business ...people get pissed off cause they get caught in the bidding war and after they leave they feel they might have paid to much for something....yeah he has water problems at the creek but he has been trying to fix the problems....has anyone that is complaining bout the location been there in awhile to see the improvements he is making .......if not maybe u should!!!!!!!!!
If Carl Crowder and his brother were running a legal business, they would be standing behind their refund policy. They have avoided the letters sent by the Attorney General and gave me a check that bounced. In the state of Kentucky, that is against the law. I did not get pissed off just because I felt I spent too much money. The products did not work and I trusted they would stand behind their refund policy. I just want my refund.
victim of source sales

Shelbyville, KY

#30 Dec 21, 2012
Going thru the WV Attorney General did not result in anything. Carl Crowder and Source Sell just ignored the letters. Crooks know how to play the game. He and his business partners can go into an area and not stand behind their return policy. They can write cold checks and break the law and nothing happens. I am not finished with this. I know he has opened another auction and will be looking at other legal avenues. Does anyone have any information or any suggestions to get justice from these crooks I want this practice stopped because he and others will continue to do this. Let me hear from you.
confused

Charleston, WV

#31 Dec 21, 2012
There was an auction at Georges Creek owned by the deceased Marvin Crowders' family. At one time they advertised on the internet a lot. Go into rip off companies and type in crowders auction and see what comes up?

I do believe some things sold at "auctions" are stolen. Ron's Auction in Rand used to sell cigarettes really cheap some with and some without WV tax stamp?? Also - the store at Georges Creek used to be called some type of QVC outlet.

Nonetheless - Consumer of Atty General would be familiar as these folks never kept up with WC premiums - probably don't even have anything like that now.

I personally don't know they are crooks, but I've heard they have shady pratices and shady empoyees working for them.
ragdoll

Charleston, WV

#32 Jan 15, 2013
Carl and Phil live like millionaries and dont pay anybody. They have had the busy in a lot of different family names. they rob peter to pay paul. ...they write bad checks alot also. They do not buy directly from QVC because they owe them over 2000,0000 they buy from a man second handed that gets the truck dirlectly from QVC Ron Price hasbbought stolen stuff for years and never has got in trouble. Good luck with them
Andy P

Charleston, WV

#33 Jan 15, 2013
Carl Crowder has been a respectful, engaging, and reputable businessman! I've shopped at the QVC Auction at the end of Georges Creek for years, there were times that I was spending a grand a week there. They ALWAYS stand behind their return policy. Not to mention he is the BEST auctioneer you'll ever hear. STOP HATING, if you have an issue, go up there, he will work with you, guaranteed.
stopthink

Charleston, WV

#34 Jan 15, 2013
A sucker is "someone who is trying to get something for less than usual". You get what you pay for. I don't trust none of the auction places - the one beside Twin Hills, the one in Rand nor the one at George's Creek.
victim of source sales

Shelbyville, KY

#35 Jan 16, 2013
Andy P wrote:
Carl Crowder has been a respectful, engaging, and reputable businessman! I've shopped at the QVC Auction at the end of Georges Creek for years, there were times that I was spending a grand a week there. They ALWAYS stand behind their return policy. Not to mention he is the BEST auctioneer you'll ever hear. STOP HATING, if you have an issue, go up there, he will work with you, guaranteed.
I know these people not to be respectful. I did not do anything wrong they did. I do not hate but I am so afraid they are going to continue this practice. I did go up there several times and they promised me they would do right and they didn't. I am so glad that you have had great experiences with these men but I did not. I don't know yet if I will bring charges against them for grand larcency because of the bad check they wrote or to forget it. I do know that those who steal, cheat, lie, and do bad will get their true judgement at the time they die. I pray for their souls but I pray also for the other guy they will do this to. Hopefully it won't be you.
Petterpan

Charleston, WV

#36 Jan 31, 2013
Ragdoll every word you have said is the gospel. Carl, Phil and his dad that is decesented has wrote more bad checks then good ones. There kids have Chips insurance from the state, but they put them in private school. It takes money to make money and that is their problem. They have never had none. Ride there cars all with no insurance half the time and hide the cars because they dont make the car payments on time NEVER. They never pay only what they have to pay for sales taxes. So people when you say that they are respectable business men you dont know what you are talking about. Live on the inside not the outside then `you will know like I do, I could write a book on that whole family.
victim of source sales

Shelbyville, KY

#37 Jan 31, 2013
Thanks for all the comments and information. I am not going to take any more time out of my life to deal with the Crowders. I know they are dishonest and liars and I pray for their souls. I could spend more money and take them to court or have them charged with grand larceny for writing a bad check but that would take more time and money and I don't think in the long run anything will change. I wrote them a letter letting them know that I will pray for them and I do hope that they will not continue to take advantage of good people. I did learn a lesson and that is all I take away from this experience. The people of WV deserve better and I do hope the Crowders change their ways.
BoBo

Dunbar, WV

#38 Jan 31, 2013
Andy P wrote:
Carl Crowder has been a respectful, engaging, and reputable businessman! I've shopped at the QVC Auction at the end of Georges Creek for years, there were times that I was spending a grand a week there. They ALWAYS stand behind their return policy. Not to mention he is the BEST auctioneer you'll ever hear. STOP HATING, if you have an issue, go up there, he will work with you, guaranteed.
Must be a Crowder posting this Bullsh!t
curious creeker

Charleston, WV

#39 Jan 31, 2013
Is perhaps Marvin Crowder the father of these fellas? If so, they probably were raised to be "cons and hustlers" as he had always known to be such.

all I have to say to buyers is just purchase clothes and stuff like that - never nothing electrical or batterypowered even from them. Everything like that is most likeley already been "proved" to not work properly and they got it cheap. For the one who spends $1,000 weekly with them? do you have an auction of a place where you re-sell items too?
Someone who knows a lot

Charleston, WV

#40 Jan 31, 2013
There is nothing honest about Carl or Phil Crowder. They learned everything they know from their mother and father. And yes, Marvin Crowder is their father. They had night clubs in charleston in the 90's; had all kind of trouble, people getting shot and killed, stolen merchandise. And Marvin couldnt get the clubs in his name so he put them in Mary Ann's name. She'd do anything for him, regardless of how many women he had. They act like they have so much, but really they do not have a pot to pee in. They always have vehicles that are the best, but had to hid them because they couldnt afford to pay for them.
The man that Knows

Charleston, WV

#41 Jan 31, 2013
I also have been there many many times, And its just like they say , If you buy something that does
not work . Then you get a credit that only can be used on saturday night only !!! And when you go back next week you can also buy that same item again and again and again until someone buys it and say ah its only $25.00 whats that I will just
keep it. I don't want to go though all that for the money. And for the big dollar items I am not
going to take any chance on them they might work
they also might not work . I have seen a lot of people get very upset about all this and never see them again . So all I can say is buyer beware!!
WAKE UP PEOPLE

Charleston, WV

#42 Feb 1, 2013
They are just plain crooks. They have lived like this all their life. Nothing stops them. They just change names and keep on trucking.
Creeker

Charleston, WV

#43 Feb 1, 2013
WAKE UP PEOPLE wrote:
They are just plain crooks. They have lived like this all their life. Nothing stops them. They just change names and keep on trucking.
they used to be on main road on 60 about where trucking company is now under name of QVC OUTLET. They have been doing BUSINESS for over 15 years or so and always owe taxes to different state gov'ts and yes I am older so I do remember the bars Marvin used to have - at least the one on Summers Street. He was friends with Francey Gaten who ran a filling station on the creek who I never knew to steal or hustle anyone or never heard he did...

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