It is time for Gun Control
Redneckerson

Nitro, WV

#65 Jan 28, 2013
Trey wrote:
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You taking about back in the 60's when segregation still existed and lynchings still took place in the south. For real? You ask why? I agree with the other poster we have evolved. Something the constitution has not.
Were ropes banned ? Or was people educated ? You want to segregate law-abiding citizens , by not allowing them to own certain semi-auto weapons!
Trey

Charleston, WV

#66 Jan 28, 2013
Redneckerson wrote:
<quoted text>Were ropes banned ? Or was people educated ? You want to segregate law-abiding citizens , by not allowing them to own certain semi-auto weapons!
Hell yes! No need for them. They should all be rounded up and melted. Anyone caught with should be an automatic life sentence.
pam

Charleston, WV

#67 Jan 28, 2013
Redneckerson wrote:
When you have the Constitution Rewrote, remember to rewrite The Declaration Of Independance, esp. the part about ,Life , Liberty, and the Pursuit of happiness. All of these Rights were obtained by 'then illegal firearms'
We have evolved. I agree the constitution needs rewrote it is outdated and is used as a political ploy.
Redneckerson

Nitro, WV

#68 Jan 28, 2013
pam wrote:
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We have evolved. I agree the constitution needs rewrote it is outdated and is used as a political ploy.
Besides the 2nd amend.,what else do you think needs rewrote? Political ploy explain? Since the begining of our Country politicians have been elected on their views of the Constitution.

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#69 Jan 28, 2013
There is no need to rewrite anything, a Constitutional amendment to clarify what the Amendment means, as per "We the People".
The subject of the 2nd Amendment is as written, "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State". The second parts are, "the right of the People to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed". The second parts is a statement relative to the first parts. In this context the Amendment is directed to the first parts, the State. The second parts confirm the first parts, the State is the People, the People is the State. "We the People of the United States of America". With this Clarification, the State "We the People" can pass Laws that would ban those weapons that pose a danger to the Security of the People or a free State.

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#70 Jan 28, 2013
The Tenth Amendment to the United States Constitution, which is part of the Bill of Rights, was ratified on December 15, 1791.[1] The Tenth Amendment states the Constitution's principle of federalism by providing that powers not granted to the federal government by the Constitution, nor prohibited to the States, are reserved to the States or the people. Again, the State is the People, and the People is the State. By a State forum, Laws are make by the People through their elected representatives. The State is the People.
Redneckerson

Nitro, WV

#71 Jan 28, 2013
Jack_4ral wrote:
There is no need to rewrite anything, a Constitutional amendment to clarify what the Amendment means, as per "We the People".
The subject of the 2nd Amendment is as written, "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State". The second parts are, "the right of the People to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed". The second parts is a statement relative to the first parts. In this context the Amendment is directed to the first parts, the State. The second parts confirm the first parts, the State is the People, the People is the State. "We the People of the United States of America". With this Clarification, the State "We the People" can pass Laws that would ban those weapons that pose a danger to the Security of the People or a free State.
The key is ,SHALL NOT be infringed
toe

Charleston, WV

#72 Jan 28, 2013
I'm so sick of hearing about the 2nd amendment it's driving me crazy. The nut job hillbillies on the right finally have something to talk about, sure can't talk about the election. Didn't they get their ass handed to them twice. No way they can win in 2016 due to their stance on social issues. Let it go people, come out of your makeshift bunker and lay down your Arms Lmao,
nobody

Mooresville, NC

#73 Jan 29, 2013
The Messiah wrote:
@nobody
You're watching too much television. Just how many times are you going to watch Red Dawn before you realize it's Hollywood fiction and it is NOT real? The bottom line is none of that is going to happen and deep down as much as you and a few of you like to pretend, I believe you know i'm right.
Now back to the constitution and the 2nd Amendment in specific. It is outdated. That crap was written well over 200 years ago and times have and are still changing as we speak.
Those old geezers in the white wigs may have hit the nail on the head in their way of thinking for that time period, but those dudes sure as hell couldn't see too far off into the future.
I hope that President Barack Hussein Obama is able to tweak the 2nd amendment if not eliminate it all together, before he leaves office in 2016. If not, then at least lay the ground work for the next Democrat to come in and finish the job.
The second Amendment is outdated and most rational thinkers know it.
No, most rational thinkers support the second amendment. Most rational thinkers also don't make posts about how Barack Obama is Jesus, like you have done several times. If you want my gun fine, but you are going to have to come and kill me to get it and it isn't going to be as easy as you seem to think. And somebody is coming with me on that day, rest assured. And trust me, I am far from alone with this sentiment. Long live the Republic and God bless America.

Since: Jul 12

Saint Albans, WV

#74 Jan 29, 2013
Snitch wrote:
burner i'm aware that you aren't the sharpest tool in the shed, but your statement about President Obama is just asinine. First of all I couldn't imagine you with an AR in your hands, because you more than likely can't even figure out how to load one, much less use it responsibly. 20 yeras in the service my ass. Wink! wink!

Now getting back to President Obama. How about Googling (you do know what that means doncha?) and type in President Reagan and the "Iran Contra affair" and just see how many weapons that SOB gave to Iran in exchange for hostages. Go ahead son and maybe you will learn a bit. I seriously doubt it, but stranger things have happened.

BTW: Semper Fi!
Yeah he gave the weapons to save lives, what was obamas reason

Since: Jul 12

Saint Albans, WV

#75 Jan 29, 2013
Well if they want to ban them that's fine I already have mine so they can't touch it and if they try well its not goi g to work out very well for anyone, them or me. They might get it but it will cost them

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#76 Jan 29, 2013
TheThinBlueLine wrote:
Well if they want to ban them that's fine I already have mine so they can't touch it and if they try well its not goi g to work out very well for anyone, them or me. They might get it but it will cost them
The thin Blue line says to me, a Law enforcement officer. Question; What kills most Police officers other than car accidents? Their own weapons. Sad.

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#77 Jan 29, 2013
TheThinBlueLine wrote:
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Yeah he gave the weapons to save lives, what was obamas reason
Reagan gave Missiles to Iran for cash, the cash was used to fund a C.I.A. illegal War in Central America. This illegal operation made Oliver North a Neo-Con hero by the Republican Party. What is Bad for the United States is good for the Republicans and their A$$ wipes.

Since: Jul 12

Saint Albans, WV

#78 Jan 29, 2013
Jack_4ral wrote:
<quoted text>The thin Blue line says to me, a Law enforcement officer. Question; What kills most Police officers other than car accidents? Their own weapons. Sad.
My own weapon? Really nowhere in my post did I say anything about taking my own life, you see that's the problem with the far left such as yourself and the far right, your both wrong
nobody

Mooresville, NC

#79 Jan 30, 2013
Jack_4ral wrote:
<quoted text>Reagan gave Missiles to Iran for cash, the cash was used to fund a C.I.A. illegal War in Central America. This illegal operation made Oliver North a Neo-Con hero by the Republican Party. What is Bad for the United States is good for the Republicans and their A$$ wipes.
The right might be the stupid party, but the left is no better. Two wings on the same dirty, dirty bird. You don't come off as stupid so quit being ignorant. Everyone knows what we really have here is a one party system, and the left is currently fucking up this country just as bad as the right ever did.

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#80 Jan 30, 2013
TheThinBlueLine wrote:
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My own weapon? Really nowhere in my post did I say anything about taking my own life, you see that's the problem with the far left such as yourself and the far right, your both wrong
ThinBlue, please read my comment again. No where did I mention you eating your gun barrel, statists show that Law Enforcement Officers die on duty by their own weapon second only to car accidents. This is relevant to their weapon being taken from them and then used against them. The Officer by carrying a weapon is providing a means for an unarmed person to harm him. In my many years in the Criminal Justice System most Officers died from their own weapon. Another group used their service weapon to kill their unfaithful spouse. There is a prevalent case for Officers using a hand gun and committing suicide. I can assure you that there is a Paradox when carrying a loaded weapon.

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#81 Jan 30, 2013
nobody wrote:
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The right might be the stupid party, but the left is no better. Two wings on the same dirty, dirty bird. You don't come off as stupid so quit being ignorant. Everyone knows what we really have here is a one party system, and the left is currently fucking up this country just as bad as the right ever did.
No, you can pick your own Party, you can pick the Party of the People or you can pick the Party of corruption and obstruction.

Since: Jul 12

Charleston, WV

#82 Jan 30, 2013
Jack_4ral wrote:
<quoted text>ThinBlue, please read my comment again. No where did I mention you eating your gun barrel, statists show that Law Enforcement Officers die on duty by their own weapon second only to car accidents. This is relevant to their weapon being taken from them and then used against them. The Officer by carrying a weapon is providing a means for an unarmed person to harm him. In my many years in the Criminal Justice System most Officers died from their own weapon. Another group used their service weapon to kill their unfaithful spouse. There is a prevalent case for Officers using a hand gun and committing suicide. I can assure you that there is a Paradox when carrying a loaded weapon.
So lets take guns away from everyone including cops that way only the bad guys have them. Yeah that will work, listen no shit head is going to get my gun, if my wife is unfaithful then so be it, there is nothing I can do about it and last but not least I am not going to commit suicide so put the kool aid down because you need a time out

Since: Jul 12

Charleston, WV

#83 Jan 30, 2013
Jack_4ral wrote:
<quoted text>No, you can pick your own Party, you can pick the Party of the People or you can pick the Party of corruption and obstruction.
Oh and the libs are looming out for our best interests? Please refer to my last post

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#84 Jan 30, 2013
The GOP Chooses Fascism
By Bob Burnett

After Barack Obama's convincing win over John McCain, it was clear the Republican Party was at a crossroads. The Grand Old Party had to decide what ideology was going to guide it in the post-Bush era: a philosophy rooted in conservative ideas or a credo based upon fear and anger. Unfortunately for America, Republicans turned to the dark side and chose the road to fascism.

By "fascism" I mean a national political movement that rejects democracy, embraces nativism and racism, and promotes violence. The Ku Klux Klan is an American fascist movement. The German Nazis were another example.

The Republican dance with fascism dates to the Nixon era when the GOP recruited Southern Democrats alienated by passage of the Civil Rights Act. When George W. Bush first ran for President, rabidly racist and sexist groups became major campaign players. The Bush White House encouraged nativism with its imagery of America the Christian nation leading a worldwide crusade against infidels. And, Bush fed distrust of reason - another hallmark of fascism - with his fear-based propaganda and anti-science agenda.

Since Obama's election, we've seen the Republican Party tighten its embrace of fascism. First, they made the decision to oppose whatever Obama proposed without offering contrasting ideas; their hope was that the President would fail and this would work to their advantage. Republican leaders rooted for a collapse of the American financial system, wanted the current recession to be as severe as the Great Depression, so their Party could take advantage of the chaos.

Second, in the absence of strong internal leadership, the GOP looked to demagogues - Rush Limbaugh, Glenn Beck, Bill O'Reilly, Sean Hannity - to represent the Party. Republicans adopted Nazi leader Joseph Goebbels' "big lie" tactic, where Party spokespeople could say anything so long as it advanced their cause. Limbaugh denied there is a healthcare crisis, called Obama a racist and compared him to Hitler. Beck, Hannity, and O'Reilly took the same path as Limbaugh and claimed the Democrats' healthcare bill supports euthanasia.

Third, the GOP embraced nativism and racism by supporting border vigilantes, opposing the Supreme Court nomination of Sonja Sotomayor, and spreading lies about Obama's birth. In effect, the Republican Party rebranded itself as the White People's Party.

And finally, in their advocacy of disruptions at Congressional town hall meetings, Republicans have explicitly supported violence. Beginning with the lie that the Obama Administration wants to suspend the second amendment and deny Americans the right to bear arms,Glen Beck has promoted armed resistance. Falsely claiming Obama has "surrounded himself by Marxists his whole life," Beck proclaimed the Obama era is reminiscent of ""the early days of Adolf Hitler" and suggested America is rapidly becoming " a totalitarian state." The Republican Party and closely allied lobbyists promoted thuggery that disrupted town hall meetings. Now the Republican Party teeters on the edge of the signature tactic of fascist movements: sponsoring paramilitary groups.

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