It is time for Gun Control
NJ71

Charleston, WV

#25 Jan 27, 2013
Redneckerson wrote:
<quoted text>and by the way the cyclic rate of a AR15 in the hands of a experienced Marksman is about 625rds pm
Exactly, which is far too many for any civilian.
voice of reason

Charleston, WV

#26 Jan 27, 2013
Redneckerson wrote:
<quoted text>Yeah I fired several semi-auto AR15's and military auto M16's ,not impressed with either. But if you want rid of your AR ,sell it! The .223 round is not impressive , and you are wrong a AR 15 is not a assault rifle, to be a assault rifle it must be full-auto ,or 3 rd. burst rifle. A AR-15 is nothing more than a black scary looking semi-auto with a large clip. If you knew anything at all about weapons you would know this.
People can argue semantics all day long but that doesn't change the reality that only gun owners care about the distinction of semi vs select fire when it comes to "assault rifles." Sure, we know technically that an AR15 or a WASR10/63 isn't really an "assault rifle" but that doesn't change how the term is used by the 60% of Americans who don't have a gun in the house. A realistic definition is any semi-auto rifle that looks like it could possibly be military in origin. To the average citizen, if it looks like it could assault something, it's an assault rifle. The fact that "assaulting" anything with my 20 pound AR based varmint rifle would be pretty dumb, doesn't stop people from identifying it as such.

To the informed, it's a military type select-fire weapon with a detachable magazine in some intermediate cartridge.

I personally think that any fire arm with magazine and 3 round burst should be 100% banned. I am also an NRA member and republican. The AR15 is not considered technically an assault riffle, but should be banned from any civilian ownership along with several owners.

Regardless anything close to an assault riffle will be banned. Far too many liberals and several conservatives want them banned. They far out number the % that want them to remain legal. History has shown us that the majority rules. Unfortunately the liberals out number the conservative Americans and the gap is widening every year.
Redneckerson

Nitro, WV

#27 Jan 27, 2013
NJ71 wrote:
<quoted text>
Exactly, which is far too many for any civilian.
thats your opinion, Gov. regulations and restrictions only apply too law-abiding citizens, not criminals. So you must be in favor of criminals having the upper hand. The people doing these killings are nuts ,and will get ahold of weapons no matter what laws are passed. Heroin addicts get their dope and its illegal,and so will murderers get weopons if they are made illegal. The only diff. is law abiding citizens won't have the weapons to match the criminals.
burner

Charleston, WV

#28 Jan 27, 2013
Truth be known, the only reason Obama and his chronies don't want the AR's in civilian hands is that he doesn't want them to have the same or better weapons than the drug cartels he sold the AR's to
Snitch

Martinsburg, WV

#29 Jan 27, 2013
burner i'm aware that you aren't the sharpest tool in the shed, but your statement about President Obama is just asinine. First of all I couldn't imagine you with an AR in your hands, because you more than likely can't even figure out how to load one, much less use it responsibly. 20 yeras in the service my ass. Wink! wink!

Now getting back to President Obama. How about Googling (you do know what that means doncha?) and type in President Reagan and the "Iran Contra affair" and just see how many weapons that SOB gave to Iran in exchange for hostages. Go ahead son and maybe you will learn a bit. I seriously doubt it, but stranger things have happened.

BTW: Semper Fi!
GUN NUT

Charleston, WV

#30 Jan 27, 2013
NJ71 I will pay you a fair price if you will sell it
pepo

Charleston, WV

#31 Jan 27, 2013
burner wrote:
Truth be known, the only reason Obama and his chronies don't want the AR's in civilian hands is that he doesn't want them to have the same or better weapons than the drug cartels he sold the AR's to
Your an idiot, you give us republicans a bad name. Stupid people like you is why we lost the past two elections. I just freaking hate when there is no logic used on our side. It really really sucks! Smh
burner

Charleston, WV

#32 Jan 28, 2013
Snitch wrote:
burner i'm aware that you aren't the sharpest tool in the shed, but your statement about President Obama is just asinine. First of all I couldn't imagine you with an AR in your hands, because you more than likely can't even figure out how to load one, much less use it responsibly. 20 yeras in the service my ass. Wink! wink!
Now getting back to President Obama. How about Googling (you do know what that means doncha?) and type in President Reagan and the "Iran Contra affair" and just see how many weapons that SOB gave to Iran in exchange for hostages. Go ahead son and maybe you will learn a bit. I seriously doubt it, but stranger things have happened.
BTW: Semper Fi!
There you go again Snitch talking about things that you know nothing about. Let me once again try to educate your ignorant ass. The US has been not only arming but also training insurgents we even have special units designed for that purpose. It would be nice if you would know what you are talking about before you opened your mouth and show how ignorant you really are. Your use of the Iran Contra Affair is totally absurd one has nothing to do with the other. One involves selling weapons to known drug cartels that will and have been used against US and Mexican citizens. In the Iran Contra Affair, the weapons that were given were not given to criminal groups that the government is supposed to be protecting itís citizens from. But I guess someone with your low level of intelligence canít understand that
But what can you expect from someone that takes pride in being a snitch the lowest form of a human being. As for my knowledge of weapons, I have forgot more than you ever will know. BTW I do have an AR but like my AK better because it has more stopping power.
Semper Fi my ass Since you couldnít get through the police academy you surely didnítí get through the marines.

De Opresso Liber You dumb ass
burner

Charleston, WV

#33 Jan 28, 2013
pepo wrote:
<quoted text>
Your an idiot, you give us republicans a bad name. Stupid people like you is why we lost the past two elections. I just freaking hate when there is no logic used on our side. It really really sucks! Smh
Me a member of the republican party get real. It's because of idiots like you that destroyed the party that I left it. If you had half the brain you think you have you would understand my logic. Anyone that backs a party that is to afraid to stand up to the democrats isn't worth being a member of. That is why the republicans are losing so many members.
Snitch

Martinsburg, WV

#34 Jan 28, 2013
burner help me out here would you? Did the Army Special Forces give the Navy Seals ( Seal Team Six ) a ride to Bin Ladens Compound or did they stay back and man the phones? I can't recall what roll they played. Was it a ride or did they man the phones? Or am I completely off track and President Barack Hussein Obama didn't invite them to the party. I mean afterall that mission was important and needed the best of the best. What say you burner?

Semper Fi!

And the republican party is the party that introduced Simple Sarah Palin to the world for all to see. Those embeciles actually wanted Uncle Fester and Simple Sarah to run things.

P.S.
Burner you need to stop listening to Rush Limbaugh and Bill O'Reilly.

See you this weekend!
Dale Garzel

India

#35 Jan 28, 2013
Come take my guns and see how it works out for you. I can only assume if someone is taking my defense mechanism they are trying to kill me. What other reason would they take it?

The constitution still applies to today's world. Human nature has not changed. It will never changed. The liberals need to move to England with their own kind. Liberals are not Americans anyway.
pepo

Charleston, WV

#36 Jan 28, 2013
Dale Garzel wrote:
Come take my guns and see how it works out for you. I can only assume if someone is taking my defense mechanism they are trying to kill me. What other reason would they take it?

The constitution still applies to today's world. Human nature has not changed. It will never changed. The liberals need to move to England with their own kind. Liberals are not Americans anyway.
Lol, no one is wanting to remove guns from citizens, just the assault riffles. Don't be stupid, if the government wanted your guns they could take them all, they are going to show up in your front lawn with muskets lol, they could take eliminate you without putting one foot on your property.
nobody

Mooresville, NC

#37 Jan 28, 2013
NJ71 wrote:
<quoted text>
The constitution is outdated and needs amended. The 2nd amendment was written while everyone carried muskets lol, don't get me wrong I think the American people should be allowed to own as many guns as they wish, but there is no reason anyone she be able to own assault riffles. I'm a gun owner, a member of the NRA and own 7 different guns one of those being an AR-15, but I would give it up in a heart. Not sure if you have actually fired an AR -15, but no way should any civilian be able to own one, hell I could have ended the civil war my self with one of those. I honestly think the 2nd amendment needs amended and that part of the constitution is outdated, anyone without being political biased should see that. For the record I'm a 5th generation Republican.
20 years from now when a firearm can sling 5000 rounds per per minute are civilians allowed to carry them?
Use common sense and think about it. Take politics out of the equation. Smh
Most people don't own assault rifles, considering that a fully automatic assault rifle costs between 15 and 20 thousand dollars. An AR-15 is semi automatic, that is a far cry from "slinging 5000 rounds per minute". The Second Amendment is specifically for protecting ourselves against tyranny and defending America against invasions. Grandpa's single shot hunting rifle would not work for this purpose. The Second Amendment is fine the way it is, and a large majority of Americans are not going to allow themselves to be disarmed over a knee jerk reaction to media hype over a couple of mass shootings. Violent crime has steadily been going down in America over the past 20 years, and RARELY are semi-automatic rifles ever used in crime in the US.
nobody

Mooresville, NC

#38 Jan 28, 2013
NJ71 wrote:
<quoted text>
Exactly, which is far too many for any civilian.
What does being a civilian have to do with it? Have you ever read the second amendment? In is writings Thomas Jefferson clearly stated that the 2nd Amendment is for the people to protect themselves from tyranny. It doesn't say "protect themselves from tyranny, but only with shitty outdated weapons".
pepo

Charleston, WV

#39 Jan 28, 2013
nobody wrote:
<quoted text>What does being a civilian have to do with it? Have you ever read the second amendment? In is writings Thomas Jefferson clearly stated that the 2nd Amendment is for the people to protect themselves from tyranny. It doesn't say "protect themselves from tyranny, but only with shitty outdated weapons".
Lol, tyranny? You mean the military that doesn't fight gorilla warfare any longer, they would take care of you a lazily weapon from the air. He'll they could even use a drone lol. The constitution needs amended it is way out dated. Don't get me wrong we should be able to bare arms, but there should be a limitation on what type of firearm a civilian can use. Next people will be wanting to stock pile nuclear war heads for the up coming apocalypse :-)
Ali

Pittsburgh, PA

#40 Jan 28, 2013
pepo wrote:
<quoted text>
Lol, no one is wanting to remove guns from citizens, just the assault riffles. Don't be stupid, if the government wanted your guns they could take them all, they are going to show up in your front lawn with muskets lol, they could take eliminate you without putting one foot on your property.
The Sons of Allah say no infidel should have guns. Hussein and the Calipornia Jewwoman will help us disarm Amerikan infidels. Your government is our biggest ally in this
nobody

Mooresville, NC

#41 Jan 28, 2013
pepo wrote:
<quoted text>
Lol, tyranny? You mean the military that doesn't fight gorilla warfare any longer, they would take care of you a lazily weapon from the air. He'll they could even use a drone lol. The constitution needs amended it is way out dated. Don't get me wrong we should be able to bare arms, but there should be a limitation on what type of firearm a civilian can use. Next people will be wanting to stock pile nuclear war heads for the up coming apocalypse :-)
Do you not understand the very simple concept of the distribution of power in a free society? Do you honestly not possess the mental facilities to understand the second amendment, and it's purpose? We are armed so we cannot be pushed around. An unarmed society could be forced by an out of control government do to just about anything. Tyranny is a joke to you? Don't think it could happen? Do you think things would have went any differently for the Jews in Nazi Germany had they been armed with AR-15 rifles? Just because these things are not happening at the moment doesn't mean it isn't a threat. The year it happens to be is irrelevant, we are not above human nature, and history shows us what happens when a tyrannical government disarms it's people. Once again the purpose of the second amendment is not hunting, or target shooting, it is self-defense and a last resort protection to save us from government tyranny. Bolt action rifles and single shot shotguns are not sufficient for this purpose. Are you really too stupid to understand this?
nobody

Mooresville, NC

#42 Jan 28, 2013
pepo wrote:
<quoted text>
Lol, tyranny? You mean the military that doesn't fight gorilla warfare any longer, they would take care of you a lazily weapon from the air. He'll they could even use a drone lol. The constitution needs amended it is way out dated. Don't get me wrong we should be able to bare arms, but there should be a limitation on what type of firearm a civilian can use. Next people will be wanting to stock pile nuclear war heads for the up coming apocalypse :-)
And as far as drones go, are they just going to bomb everyone? How could they tell the difference between guerrilla fighters and normal innocent people? They couldn't. And as far as the military protecting us they have been trying to stop a few thousand insurgents in the middle east for over 10 years now, and they can't even do that. Self-defense is a personal responsibility, you can't depend on others to protect your family. When every second counts the police are minutes away. Don't be naive.
The Messiah

Martinsburg, WV

#43 Jan 28, 2013
@nobody

You're watching too much television. Just how many times are you going to watch Red Dawn before you realize it's Hollywood fiction and it is NOT real? The bottom line is none of that is going to happen and deep down as much as you and a few of you like to pretend, I believe you know i'm right.

Now back to the constitution and the 2nd Amendment in specific. It is outdated. That crap was written well over 200 years ago and times have and are still changing as we speak.

Those old geezers in the white wigs may have hit the nail on the head in their way of thinking for that time period, but those dudes sure as hell couldn't see too far off into the future.

I hope that President Barack Hussein Obama is able to tweak the 2nd amendment if not eliminate it all together, before he leaves office in 2016. If not, then at least lay the ground work for the next Democrat to come in and finish the job.

The second Amendment is outdated and most rational thinkers know it.
Anthony

Huntington, WV

#44 Jan 28, 2013
Snitch wrote:
burner i'm aware that you aren't the sharpest tool in the shed, but your statement about President Obama is just asinine. First of all I couldn't imagine you with an AR in your hands, because you more than likely can't even figure out how to load one, much less use it responsibly. 20 yeras in the service my ass. Wink! wink!

Now getting back to President Obama. How about Googling (you do know what that means doncha?) and type in President Reagan and the "Iran Contra affair" and just see how many weapons that SOB gave to Iran in exchange for hostages. Go ahead son and maybe you will learn a bit. I seriously doubt it, but stranger things have happened.

BTW: Semper Fi!
Ever heard of "fast and furious" mr marine? You serve a corrupt globalist system.

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