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Nobody cares about you WV inbred hillbillys!
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Mar 15, 2013
 
Love wrote:
Maybe I should add the link too.
http://www.lrb.co.uk/v28/n06/john-mearsheimer...
Since the Big O is getting ready to go over to Israel next week and as we saber rattle on Iran I wonder.
THE ISRAEL LOBBY AND U.S. FOREIGN POLICY
John J. Mearsheimer
University of Chicago
Stephen M. Walt
Harvard University
March 2006
THE ISRAEL LOBBY AND U.S. FOREIGN POLICY
The U.S. national interest should be the primary object of American foreign
policy. For the past several decades, however, and especially since the Six Day War in 1967, the centerpiece of U.S. Middle East policy has been its relationship
with Israel. The combination of unwavering U.S. support for Israel and the
related effort to spread democracy throughout the region has inflamed Arab and
Islamic opinion and jeopardized U.S. security.
This situation has no equal in American political history. Why has the United
States been willing to set aside its own security in order to advance the intere
sts of another state? One might assume that the bond between the two countries is
based on shared strategic interests or compelling moral imperatives. As we
show below, however, neither of those explanations can account for the
remarkable level of material and diplomatic support that the United States
provides to Israel.
Instead, the overall thrust of U.S. policy in the region is due almost entirely
to U.S. domestic politics, and especially to the activities of the “Israel Lobby.”
Other special interest groups have managed to skew U.S. foreign policy in directions
they favored, but no lobby has managed to divert U.S. foreign policy as far from
what the American national interest would otherwise suggest, while
simultaneously convincing Americans that U.S. and Israeli interests are
essentially identical.1
In the pages that follow, we describe how the Lobby has accomplished this feat,
and how its activities have shaped America’s actions in this critical region.
Given the strategic importance of the Middle East and its potential impact on
others, both Americans and non‐Americans need to understand and address the
Lobby’s influence on U.S. policy.
Some readers will find this analysis disturbing, but the facts recounted here are not in serious dispute among scholars. Indeed, our account relies heavily on the
work of Israeli scholars and journalists, who deserve great credit for shedding
light on these issues.
THE GREAT BENEFACTOR
Since the October War in 1973, Washington has provided Israel with a level of
support dwarfing the amounts provided to any other state. It has been the
largest annual recipient of direct U.S. economic and military assistance since 1976
and the largest total recipient since World War II. Total direct U.S. aid to Israel
amounts to well over $140 billion in 2003 dollars.2 Israel receives about $3 billion
in direct foreign assistance each year, which is roughly one‐fifth of America’s
foreign aid budget. In per capita terms, the United States gives each Israeli a
direct subsidy worth about $500 per year.
3 This largesse is especially striking
when one realizes that Israel is now a wealthy industrial state with a per capita
income roughly equal to South Korea or Spain.4 ....
....
This extraordinary generosity might be understandable if Israel were a vital
strategic asset or if there were a compelling moral case for sustained U.S.
backing. But neither rationale is convincing.
A STRATEGIC LIABILITY ..... MUCH MORE ...
thanks for posting this! I'm so proud of my country for it's support of the nation state, Israel. They hold dear to their hearts the same values as us - Racism, hatred, supporters of genocide and above all else, freedom! I've always dreamed of living in Nazi Germany and my wish has been granted!

Zionists and American citizens unite to make the world a more evil and morally disgusting place!

(satire of course)
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#11404
Mar 15, 2013
 
Love wrote:
Maybe I should add the link too.
http://www.lrb.co.uk/v28/n06/john-mearsheimer...
Since the Big O is getting ready to go over to Israel next week and as we saber rattle on Iran I wonder.
THE ISRAEL LOBBY AND U.S. FOREIGN POLICY
John J. Mearsheimer
University of Chicago
Stephen M. Walt
Harvard University
March 2006
THE ISRAEL LOBBY AND U.S. FOREIGN POLICY
The U.S. national interest should be the primary object of American foreign
policy. For the past several decades, however, and especially since the Six Day War in 1967, the centerpiece of U.S. Middle East policy has been its relationship
with Israel. The combination of unwavering U.S. support for Israel and the
related effort to spread democracy throughout the region has inflamed Arab and
Islamic opinion and jeopardized U.S. security.
This situation has no equal in American political history. Why has the United
States been willing to set aside its own security in order to advance the intere
sts of another state? One might assume that the bond between the two countries is
based on shared strategic interests or compelling moral imperatives. As we
show below, however, neither of those explanations can account for the
remarkable level of material and diplomatic support that the United States
provides to Israel.
Instead, the overall thrust of U.S. policy in the region is due almost entirely
to U.S. domestic politics, and especially to the activities of the “Israel Lobby.”
Other special interest groups have managed to skew U.S. foreign policy in directions
they favored, but no lobby has managed to divert U.S. foreign policy as far from
what the American national interest would otherwise suggest, while
simultaneously convincing Americans that U.S. and Israeli interests are
essentially identical.1
In the pages that follow, we describe how the Lobby has accomplished this feat,
and how its activities have shaped America’s actions in this critical region.
Given the strategic importance of the Middle East and its potential impact on
others, both Americans and non‐Americans need to understand and address the
Lobby’s influence on U.S. policy.
Some readers will find this analysis disturbing, but the facts recounted here are not in serious dispute among scholars. Indeed, our account relies heavily on the
work of Israeli scholars and journalists, who deserve great credit for shedding
light on these issues.
THE GREAT BENEFACTOR
Since the October War in 1973, Washington has provided Israel with a level of
support dwarfing the amounts provided to any other state. It has been the
largest annual recipient of direct U.S. economic and military assistance since 1976
and the largest total recipient since World War II. Total direct U.S. aid to Israel
amounts to well over $140 billion in 2003 dollars.2 Israel receives about $3 billion
in direct foreign assistance each year, which is roughly one‐fifth of America’s
foreign aid budget. In per capita terms, the United States gives each Israeli a
direct subsidy worth about $500 per year.
3 This largesse is especially striking
when one realizes that Israel is now a wealthy industrial state with a per capita
income roughly equal to South Korea or Spain.4 ....
....
This extraordinary generosity might be understandable if Israel were a vital
strategic asset or if there were a compelling moral case for sustained U.S.
backing. But neither rationale is convincing.
A STRATEGIC LIABILITY ..... MUCH MORE ...
thanks for posting this!!

I love the nation state, Israel, they deserve our country's full support! Racism, hate, genocide, and overall moral perversion are values I can stand behind! I've always dreamed of living in Nazi Germany, and my wish is being fulfilled, all thanks to the USA!

Zionists and Americans unite! Let's bring Satan's vision of a tormented and gruesome world to life!:) Pro-Israel!!

(satire, of course)
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hope wrote:
<quoted text>thanks for posting this!!

I love the nation state, Israel, they deserve our country's full support! Racism, hate, genocide, and overall moral perversion are values I can stand behind! I've always dreamed of living in Nazi Germany, and my wish is being fulfilled, all thanks to the USA!

Zionists and Americans unite! Let's bring Satan's vision of a tormented and gruesome world to life!:) Pro-Israel!!

(satire, of course)
You're a nut.

No satire, sarcasm, or pun

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You people are so sick. Israel deserves our protection and care. After we delayed helping them during WWII. They deserve the land that was promised them by God when God made a promise to Abraham. I never anywhere in the Bible see where he promised the land to the Palestinians. There really never was any land called Palestine. Read through history before it was owned by the Israelites is was owed by Egypt. Egypt gave it up.
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#11407
Mar 15, 2013
 
God promised to protect Abraham's offspring.

Christianity, Judaism, and Islam come from the God of Abraham. Palestinians are included in the promise.:(

that area of the middle east is where Jesus spread His message!
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Mar 15, 2013
 
http://www.wcfia.harvard.edu/sites/default/fi...

Harvard explains what I'm trying to tell you better than I can.

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Mar 15, 2013
 
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God promised to protect Abraham's offspring.

Christianity, Judaism, and Islam come from the God of Abraham. Palestinians are included in the promise.:(

that area of the middle east is where Jesus spread His message!
Islam didn't even exist until way after Christ's death. Christ was the beginning of Christianity, because Jews continued to deny Him as the Messiah. Christians are believers in Christ and nothing else matters. If the Jewish people and Muslims don't fall to the feet of Christ and ask for His forgiveness and accept Him as the Messiah nothing else matters to them anyway.
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Mar 15, 2013
 
So you guys are voting for Jesus?

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Mar 15, 2013
 
I would. Wouldn't he be a good one. I am more on the order of David, how about you. I think Jesus would be a good leader of the church instead of the false prophets we have for preachers my self.
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Mar 15, 2013
 
USMC Dave wrote:
I would. Wouldn't he be a good one. I am more on the order of David, how about you. I think Jesus would be a good leader of the church instead of the false prophets we have for preachers my self.
Hallelujah! you have a good heart, you're just uninformed. Keep good faith, the Lord will guide you :)
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<quoted text>Hallelujah! you have a good heart, you're just uninformed. Keep good faith, the Lord will guide you :)
You calling someone uninformed is like Helen Keller calling someone senseless.

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Uninformed me you josh right. Jesus is the best leader of the church and I think David would be a very good president because he wouldn't take any crap off of anybody. US would rule the world as as a religious country. It wouldn't be bad unless your going to hell anyway.
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Mar 16, 2013
 
Really?
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Mar 16, 2013
 
Zaphod wrote:
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You calling someone uninformed is like Helen Keller calling someone senseless.
yeah right, dude. you need to wake up and contribute something useful to humanity instead of ragging on others.
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Mar 16, 2013
 
USMC Dave wrote:
Uninformed me you josh right. Jesus is the best leader of the church and I think David would be a very good president because he wouldn't take any crap off of anybody. US would rule the world as as a religious country. It wouldn't be bad unless your going to hell anyway.
this jabber is incomprehensible. i agree that Jesus is the best leader the world has ever seen. Humanity is very blessed to have him.

You know who else loves Jesus? > Muslims. They believe almost the exact same things about him as Christians. The two religions aren't as different as you think.
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<quoted text>this jabber is incomprehensible. i agree that Jesus is the best leader the world has ever seen. Humanity is very blessed to have him.

You know who else loves Jesus? > Muslims. They believe almost the exact same things about him as Christians. The two religions aren't as different as you think.
Best leader?

If you nail me to a tree could I be your president?

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hope wrote:
<quoted text>this jabber is incomprehensible. i agree that Jesus is the best leader the world has ever seen. Humanity is very blessed to have him.

You know who else loves Jesus? > Muslims. They believe almost the exact same things about him as Christians. The two religions aren't as different as you think.
Only Muslims kill Christians unless they convert. We aren't that barbaric. We don't want to kill all the Jewish people with suicide bombs either. Remember God Promised that land to David's descendants and David was not a Muslim. Unless David and Mohammad done some sort of transformation I didn't know about. I think God has the ultimate say of who gets what land, he did build the earth in six days you know.
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USMC Dave wrote:
<quoted text>Only Muslims kill Christians unless they convert. We aren't that barbaric. We don't want to kill all the Jewish people with suicide bombs either. Remember God Promised that land to David's descendants and David was not a Muslim. Unless David and Mohammad done some sort of transformation I didn't know about. I think God has the ultimate say of who gets what land, he did build the earth in six days you know.
Do the Jews have a deed or lease signed by god? I'm sure that would settle it.

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Zaphod wrote:
<quoted text>Do the Jews have a deed or lease signed by god? I'm sure that would settle it.
Yes the Bible. You can't get any better proof than that. That is the word of God. I personally don't believe the Muslims do either, the only difference is God didn't promise it to those murdering dogs.

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