Officers bust Lincoln County meth lab by arriving in borrowed church bus

Sep 10, 2013 Full story: Charleston Daily Mail 82

Law enforcement officers surprised operators of a methamphetamine lab in Lincoln County by descending upon the area in a borrowed church bus.

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#48 Oct 1, 2013
Take Pride in History wrote:
<quoted text> I do agree with you on most things stated. The vehicle was only to be used for church purposes only. And although I am glad there is one more meth lab out of operation, I do believe there were other options for a vehicle. People also have to realize and understand. If there was a accident and the church was sued, do you honestly think that the Police Department would have made it right? I would bet no. As for replacing the van if something happened to it, that is a maybe. But from a legal stand point, would they have even been obligated to do so. Chris used the van knowing the insurance would not pay if something happened. From a legal stand point that could be negligence. That is like driving without insurance if a person would think about it. And again I am not saying that the bust should not have been made, Just saying there are other options. And in all honesty I do not know details about the best, but if I were the ones that had the meth lab. I might be more suspicious of a church bus then a black suv parked outside, Depending on the time of day and the day of the week, so forth and so on. Like I stated I do not know the details. Just saying.
About the bust, oops not best. It is past my bedtime.
nil

Hamlin, WV

#49 Oct 2, 2013
observation wrote:
I'm curious why the Lincoln Journal would choose to reveal HOW the bus was used at all. This would have made a great cover again and again, if the Journal would have kept it hidden from the public. The paper should have just covered the arrests and left the details concerning the bus alone. Not because I think the preacher did anything wrong -- I agree with his actions -- but because it was a great cover that is now spoiled.
Because one of the church members works at the paper office, she also disclosed a private church business meeting. Which should have never been discussed outside of the church. A lot of people seem to be putting this man down. Could it be because they have been arrested for drugs? As for another member of the so called church three of her grand children have been arrested for drugs and her son arrested for assaulting a police officer. Also this lady was took to court by a mans daughter for trying to take all of his money and property. What does that tell you?
This is the way it is

Austin, TX

#50 Oct 2, 2013
nil wrote:
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Because one of the church members works at the paper office, she also disclosed a private church business meeting. Which should have never been discussed outside of the church. A lot of people seem to be putting this man down. Could it be because they have been arrested for drugs? As for another member of the so called church three of her grand children have been arrested for drugs and her son arrested for assaulting a police officer. Also this lady was took to court by a mans daughter for trying to take all of his money and property. What does that tell you?
How many times was Chris arrested for drugs? Stop the crap to try to excuse his behavior because a church member's family has had drug related problems. That has nothing to do with this matter. It is a fair bet that members is as distressed as any family would be from the actions of their child, etc. That has nothing to do with Chris. The man standing in the pulpit has had drug problems, big time. The problem today is his understanding of boundaries. He violated the decisions of the church board as well as the town council. He was the spiritual leader of the church and not the overlord. He is the Mayor of Hamlin and not Lincoln County. How many times have there been skirmishes that included the town police department waaaaay outside of town. Hamlin can't afford that and likely one brewing lawsuit will shock the town into reality.
This is the way it is

Austin, TX

#51 Oct 2, 2013
wisdom offered for free wrote:
If the myor did anything ILLEGAL, as some suggest here, let's see if he is investigated or arrested. Otherwise, we can conclude that in fact, as has been claimed here repeatedly, he did nothing ILLEGAL. He did not, as has been asserted here, steal anything. As the Journal article says, the vehicle was "borrowed." The Journal, in its wisdom to offer the details of the story also framed it correctly. If you read WV law, you will see that law enforcement in fact has every right to confiscate a private vehicle ON THE SPOT and use it as they see fit (it is rarely done, but it is legal). Furthermore, as long as they have said vehicle they are liable for it and/or any damage done to/by it. If we remove the mayor from the equation, and I believe that an agenda against mayor is the reason some choose to attack the operation itself, there is no motive on the part of anyone to discredit the operation. The mayor is a hero and, like it or not, whether he won by ten votes or 1000, he IS the mayor.
Your are wrong regarding confiscation of an asset for police use from the general public. The 4th Amendment to the US Constitution as well as Articles 3.6, 3.9 and 3.10 of the West Virginia Constitution strictly prohibit such action. That is the problem with these municipal police critters, they don't have the necessary training in the law to understand their responsibilities and the public's rights. Chris is a good example of that deficit.
This is the way it is

Austin, TX

#52 Oct 2, 2013
wisdom offered for free wrote:
And, does anyone else find it coincidental that all of these personal attacks against the mayor are coming at the very moment when the mayor appears in the Journal's front page headlines this week? I would suggest that maybe if the poster-with-a-grudge knows anything and can prove it that he should write a nice article in the Journal with facts instead of getting on topix and offering baseless comments. Sadly, this entire thread has become nothing but a personal vendetta against the mayor. Incredibly, the fact meth makers were foiled due to the mayor's cooperation has been lost in the conversation. And that is what is most important. The mayor's involvement in the whole affair is noble and will garner him many votes in the upcoming election. All decent people who oppose the drug culture here in Lincoln County will support him. It may seem like a "drop in the bucket" to someone who has a grudge, but to the good law-abiding citizens who actually LIVE HERE it is one step in the right direction. I plan to personally get at least 50 votes for him. Good thing the person from "Texas" who is attacking him on topix lives out of state and can't vote here.
Strange comment about Chris on front page. One of the most dangerous places to be in Lincoln County is between a Mediz person and Chris Wilkinson. He is a media hound and you are likely to be trampled.

In the current edition above the fold is a picture of Chris as well as David Adkins. David has announced his intention to run for Mayor and that would be a good thing. I am not friends with David but know him on a nodding basis. I know enough about him to know that he a person of character and would be a good fit as Mayor. He is a manager for a construction company which would give him conflict resolution skills as well as other managerial skills needed by a mayor. Chris as a janitor would not have those attributes. Chris has an angry demeanor whereas David has a bright confident disposition.

BTW my criticism of Chris is not personal, rather because of the circus he has made of his office and in Hamlin as well as the surrounding areas.
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This is the way it is

Austin, TX

#57 Oct 2, 2013
More Wisdom wrote:
His past does not concern me. His actions to help those of us who live in Lincoln County and who are battling a local drug problem does concern me. He is a hero. Why is someone who lives in Texas so concerned with the affairs of Hamlin?
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As much reason as someone who posts from Harts and
from Logan would have. You are obsessed with Texas. It appears you are a bit technology impaired.
This is the way it is

Austin, TX

#58 Oct 2, 2013
More Wisdom wrote:
I am confused why this person from Texas consistently makes references to terms and words, perhaps even quoting them, but does not seem to READ or UNDERSTAND them. The WV Constitution, specifically Section 3.9, as referenced (but not quoted) by "the way it isn't" from Texas, plainly reads: "Private property shall not be taken or damaged for public use, without just compensation." Read this last part. It is clear: "WITHOUT JUST COMPENSATION." In other words, yes, private property (church bus) can be taken for public use. And the procedure for determining and paying the compensation is also given later in the clause.
You missed so significant words and notions in other parts of those three sections of the Constitution. Try "due process" and "jury of his/her peers". Not to mention little words like "warrant".

You claim was "on the spot". Due process and jury of peers takes about two years. You are full of crap up to your ears. Now I don't doubt the Chris probably thinks he could do that which shows what a dunce he is when it comes to knowledge of society and law.
This is the way it is

Austin, TX

#59 Oct 2, 2013
More Wisdom wrote:
His past does not concern me. His actions to help those of us who live in Lincoln County and who are battling a local drug problem does concern me. He is a hero. Why is someone who lives in Texas so concerned with the affairs of Hamlin?
<quoted text>
Fine, if you can legally, then vote for him. Others may choose to do otherwise and/or support other more sane candidates.
This is the way it is

Austin, TX

#60 Oct 2, 2013
More Wisdom wrote:
This is ridiculous. If you read the posts made by the person from Texas, it is entirely PERSONAL. He/she makes attacks without proof on the character and integrity of the mayor of Hamlin -- a person who the good people of Hamlin chose to elect as their mayor. Information is consistent: if he is such a bad person, why was he elected? If he is such a bad person, why would he rush into the media's limelight? If he is such a bad person, how is he a preacher? What a surprise that this poster is endorsing (anonymously, of course) the challenger in the upcoming race! A person he "barely knows" but yet somehow seems to know his occupational history and also his personal attributes... Funny. The fact Chris is a janitor makes me want to vote for him even more. He understands best the plight of the common man.
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Now be careful on flinging that proof thing. Read past editions of the Lincoln Journal and Chris's statements. Also, it is not a violation of privacy to obtain records of candidates running for office. Unless, of course, you were the mayor and used the state's system for that.

David would provide a positive alternative to a very negative Chris. But there could be others who put their hat in the ring.

I am not slamming janitors, but that is not the place to look for executive talent. Quite obviously, Chris has been a dismal failure at that task. He only won by a few votes when he was an unknown quantity, however, now that he is a known quantity with the stunts and drama, it is doubtful he can win. Hopefully, he will realize that and quietly go into the night.
This is the way it is

Austin, TX

#61 Oct 2, 2013
More Wisdom wrote:
This is ridiculous. If you read the posts made by the person from Texas, it is entirely PERSONAL. He/she makes attacks without proof on the character and integrity of the mayor of Hamlin -- a person who the good people of Hamlin chose to elect as their mayor. Information is consistent: if he is such a bad person, why was he elected? If he is such a bad person, why would he rush into the media's limelight? If he is such a bad person, how is he a preacher? What a surprise that this poster is endorsing (anonymously, of course) the challenger in the upcoming race! A person he "barely knows" but yet somehow seems to know his occupational history and also his personal attributes... Funny. The fact Chris is a janitor makes me want to vote for him even more. He understands best the plight of the common man.
<quoted text>


Let me get this straight. It is ok for you to have an opinion and to speak but you wish to deny anyone who disagrees with you an opinion or the right to speak.
anonymous

West Hamlin, WV

#62 Oct 2, 2013
This is the way it is wrote:
<quoted text>
As much reason as someone who posts from Harts and
from Logan would have. You are obsessed with Texas. It appears you are a bit technology impaired.
i've given up trying to educate people on how technology works. at this point i just assume that these people think topix, the internet, and computers run on magic and knows exactly where you live -_-

i just come on here when things are super dull, i do try to educate whilst i'm here, but meh, that doesn't always work does it?
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This is the way it is

Austin, TX

#68 Oct 3, 2013
Wisdom Offered Once More wrote:
It is plain, in reading all of your posts, that you have a personal grudge against the man and that your attacks here are purely political. Perhaps you are the man running against him for mayor!? Or a jilted ex? Or someone who seeks to protect the druggies? I hope he traces your ISP address on here and sues you for making baseless claims against his character.
<quoted text>
You are wrong on all of your projections. But, thanks for telling us that Chris is a “player”. Don’t you imagine his wife will appreciate that information?
I am simply a citizen that has the opinion (not a grudge)that his (Chris’s) reported behavior as mayor is well outside of acceptable limits and that behavior has placed the citizens of the town and community at risk. High speed chases; falsified insurance forms after the Recorder filled them out correctly; Police Chief without code authority; "cracked" tail light kind of stops for profit; and a variety of other stunts that makes visiting, living in, or conducting business in Hamlin unpleasant, and in some instances, dangerous. Talk to anyone on the street and you will find an overwhelming frustration with his clownish behavior. The only real question is whether there could be an organized effort to remove him from office prior to next June's election. If he makes a realistic personal and professional assessment he will realize he has very little to no support. Equally, his chances of reforming his behavior and winning reelection would be a miracle equal to the Second Coming. As often is the case these stunts are carried out to bolster his sagging ego. Unfortunately, the folk in Hamlin and the surrounding area suffer. He really needs to resign.
I can’t find any significant drug enforcement related actions occurring within the city limits of Hamlin where his oath of office required him to act. He has injected himself in county wide efforts such as the mis-appropriated church bus one.
As to your diatribe about ISP and Chrissy “finding you” and “suing you” that falls flat. Now I don’t doubt that if he knew who criticized him he would seek retribution in an unlawful way. His former church members figured that out and were afraid to speak on the record. That comment reported in the media speaks volumes about the unsuitability of Chris Wilkinson for public office. As a political figure (public figure) he can’t claim libel. After all it is opinion. So getting an ip address wouldn’t help if he could, and he can’t. Topix does not surrender ip addresses. Do a web search for the details. He could not make a prima fascia case for libel.
This is the way it is

Austin, TX

#69 Oct 3, 2013
Wisdom Offered wrote:
My friend in Texas (or is it West Hamlin?), you need to brush up on your legal studies. You are completely off target on what you are trying to say. After quoting specifically what you yourself referenced, you are now disagreeing with yourself! Insane! What is important is to understand the MOTIVE behind your jargon. You clearly have an agenda against this man. I hope he sues you for trying to discredit him on this site! I would never trust someone who is afraid to even put their proper address with their posts, as you do -- they are clearly hiding something.
<quoted text>
It isn't West Hamlin. Where did that come from.

Read all three sections and think for a moment. The "state", a generic term for government, cannot take property but through legal process (due process). For those things the government can take there is an elaborate process and certainly never "on the spot" in the circumstance spoken of here.

There may be some instances in the War on Terror legislation enacted (WV) in 2010 where something approaching that but those decisions would be made much higher in the food chain than a lowly Mayor and specific criteria would have to be met. So you are dead wrong and I sincerely hope he isn't stupid enough to attempt to do something like that.
A waste

Tampa, FL

#70 Oct 3, 2013
This is the way it is wrote:
<quoted text>
It isn't West Hamlin. Where did that come from.
Read all three sections and think for a moment. The "state", a generic term for government, cannot take property but through legal process (due process). For those things the government can take there is an elaborate process and certainly never "on the spot" in the circumstance spoken of here.
There may be some instances in the War on Terror legislation enacted (WV) in 2010 where something approaching that but those decisions would be made much higher in the food chain than a lowly Mayor and specific criteria would have to be met. So you are dead wrong and I sincerely hope he isn't stupid enough to attempt to do something like that.
I think it can't understand. Badge Bunny? Betcha
anonymous

West Hamlin, WV

#71 Oct 4, 2013
Wisdom Offered wrote:
My friend in Texas (or is it West Hamlin?), you need to brush up on your legal studies. You are completely off target on what you are trying to say. After quoting specifically what you yourself referenced, you are now disagreeing with yourself! Insane! What is important is to understand the MOTIVE behind your jargon. You clearly have an agenda against this man. I hope he sues you for trying to discredit him on this site! I would never trust someone who is afraid to even put their proper address with their posts, as you do -- they are clearly hiding something.
<quoted text>
i'll show you mine if you show me yours ;)

firstly, it's ip address. your isp (nope, no address) is your Internet Service Provider. this is the company that provides you, the end user, with internet service. your ip address is a number that your isp assigns to your particular modem. all computers and devices connected to this modem share this number and so are all seen as the same thing to any server receiving the information. in other words, neither topix nor your isp know if that's you surfing that really risque catalog of justin beiber pics, your 12 year old (grand)daughter, or your 15 year old neighbor jacking your wifi. which brings me to my next point.

ip addresses as a sole piece of evidence is shaky ground at best as one can not only easily change this number at will (it's really easy to reboot a router), but can also easily obfuscate this information (i.e. proxy) as well as be the victim of someone jacking their wifi (protip: the most common password for unsecured routers is password, username admin) or spoofing their address.

this is computer literacy at it's most basic, the internet is not a magic box guise.

also, if you had even an elementary level of reading comprehension you would have noticed that not only are the usernames of the posts different, and while that would be a very easy way to obfuscate one's identity, our (me the uh anonymous dood from "west hamlin" [as topix has so obviously gotten wrong] and the person from "texas")typing styles and speech patterns are entirely different. it is possible that this is the work of one interweb ubber troll though...

sorry for all the parentheses (that's the half circle marks, like the ones at the beginning of that's and the end of end) but i had noticed that you have trouble comprehending what's being said to you so i felt the need to explain things that may seem at first hard to understand to one such as yourself.
Something wrong

Dallas, TX

#72 Oct 5, 2013
This is the way it is wrote:
<quoted text>
You are wrong on all of your projections. But, thanks for telling us that Chris is a “player”. Don’t you imagine his wife will appreciate that information?
I am simply a citizen that has the opinion (not a grudge)that his (Chris’s) reported behavior as mayor is well outside of acceptable limits and that behavior has placed the citizens of the town and community at risk. High speed chases; falsified insurance forms after the Recorder filled them out correctly; Police Chief without code authority; "cracked" tail light kind of stops for profit; and a variety of other stunts that makes visiting, living in, or conducting business in Hamlin unpleasant, and in some instances, dangerous. Talk to anyone on the street and you will find an overwhelming frustration with his clownish behavior. The only real question is whether there could be an organized effort to remove him from office prior to next June's election. If he makes a realistic personal and professional assessment he will realize he has very little to no support. Equally, his chances of reforming his behavior and winning reelection would be a miracle equal to the Second Coming. As often is the case these stunts are carried out to bolster his sagging ego. Unfortunately, the folk in Hamlin and the surrounding area suffer. He really needs to resign.
I can’t find any significant drug enforcement related actions occurring within the city limits of Hamlin where his oath of office required him to act. He has injected himself in county wide efforts such as the mis-appropriated church bus one.
As to your diatribe about ISP and Chrissy “finding you” and “suing you” that falls flat. Now I don’t doubt that if he knew who criticized him he would seek retribution in an unlawful way. His former church members figured that out and were afraid to speak on the record. That comment reported in the media speaks volumes about the unsuitability of Chris Wilkinson for public office. As a political figure (public figure) he can’t claim libel. After all it is opinion. So getting an ip address wouldn’t help if he could, and he can’t. Topix does not surrender ip addresses. Do a web search for the details. He could not make a prima fascia case for libel.
It is clear that Chris's entire goal is to control the local population by fear. They are not supposed to object no matter how severe and radical his actions become. The same with the church and that blew up in his face. The council objects but he continues to avoid statutory obligations. The real truth is that he has spent more of his life as a thug than anything else. He gets away with it because the State and County law enforcement are equally corrupt.

On the current issue of the Lincoln Journal there is a photo of an arrestee and the accompanying story details that he only weapon he had was "a stick". Yet, he is facially disfigured. Nightsticks don't give black eyes. Police beat downs give black eyes. These guys are not professional police officers they are thugs in a uniform.
There was a reason

Charleston, WV

#73 Oct 6, 2013
The congregation was upset because members of their family were busted.
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TX Thomas

Austin, TX

#75 Oct 7, 2013
There was a reason wrote:
The congregation was upset because members of their family were busted.
You get a double cut. Firstly, you slam the Church members by implying they are involved in drug trafficking. That is more than a little silly. Secondly, you attempt to excuse Chris. They did him a kindness to permit him to resign. The other option would have been much more revealing to the community.
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anonymous

West Hamlin, WV

#77 Oct 7, 2013
TN Ted wrote:
It will be my pleasure to support this man in his re-election bid. I will bet $100 that he is re-elected.
of course he will, the lincoln co ol' boys network is at work here.

good ol' lincoln co politics, if you can't bribe the living bribe the dead.
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The way it is

Austin, TX

#82 Oct 9, 2013
TN Ted wrote:
If the church members are so clean, as you say, why did they choose this so-called dirty mayor with a bad past to serve as their pastor? Could it be that he actually reflects the character of church membership -- at least, he DID reflect it until he decided to take a stand against drugs? Then the church turned on him. I find it so difficult to believe that someone SO BAD could somehow be chosen to lead a church, serve as mayor of a town, and simultaneously avoid arrest for all of his alleged criminal acts. Ridiculous. People will say anything.
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There is not doubt that he mislead the Church about his character and clearly he has had legal problems in the past. It appears he only believed in redemption and did not practice it. In the past he has swept that under the rug. That is over.

You are equally silly in your TN Tec dress as you were in the wisdom ones.

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