pulled over by the police

pulled over by the police

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RUN THE NAZIS ARE HERE

Roanoke, VA

#1 Dec 3, 2013
Okay, Here is my story,

Me and a friend was driving to Huntington Wv to do some shopping for the holidays when we got pull over by the Milton Police dept.

The officer that pulled us over was a good officer. Doing his job ect, when out of no where this officer walks up on me on the driver side door and ask me for my I.D.

I honestly didn't have it so I told the officer this, and he ask me for my name all angry, He ask me my name and date of birth, I told him, no biggie right?

no not for the officer, he was getting kinda loud tell me he can pull me out of the car and search me, whick I reply,

Why, what suspicion of a crime you believe I'm involved.
right? That what my lawyers alway told me, He got mad said he could pull me out of the car and find reason to arrest me ect. I said okay officer and started to roll up the window and he told me to leave the passenger window down. WHICH I WAS FREECING, The driver told me to listen to the officer he didn't want no trouble, so I did comply with that hateful officer.

I got home and email my lawyer and this what the told me,

READ WHOLE THING, IT'S FUNNY! Your reply needed to be, "As west Virginia is not a stop-and-ID state, I prefer to keep my information private at this time."

If he demanded your name, you follow with, "Officer, West Virginia is not a stop-and-ID state. Please state what lawful basis you have to demand my name."

At this point, one of two things happens. 1) He doesn't have probable cause to suspect you of a crime. Your refusing to ID doesn't provide him with one. He can jump up and down and shout, turn red in the face, but he can't do anything. He can continue to make demands, but you don't have to comply with them. 2) He has probable cause. He doesn't have to tell you what that is. He can arrest you whether or not you tell him your name.

I think you see the problem here. Since you don't know what he knows and don't know what he's thinking, you don't know if he has probable cause or not. If he arrests you "for not identifying yourself" or tries to claim that he arrested you "because your refusal to ID was suspicious, given him probable cause to arrest", than that's something for your attorney to fight in court. Another claim might be that you're refusing to follow the lawful orders of an officer. Of course, a demand to ID is unlawful under West Virginia law. These are nuances that you and judges and lawyers might know, but many police officers don't. Bottom line, if he thinks he has a good reason to arrest you, you're going downtown no matter whether you're in the right or not.

THIS WHAT HAPPEN TO ARE WAY OF LIFE,
THE NAZIS ARE HERE,
GET AGAINST THE WALL AND SHOW ME YOUR PAPERS!!!!
screet

Dunbar, WV

#2 Dec 3, 2013
Something tells me there's more to this story....
Confused

Bluefield, WV

#3 Dec 3, 2013
Shopping for the holidays? Which holiday? Easter, Valentine's Day, St. Patrick's Day, Independence Day, etc. etc.?7
Hmmm

United States

#4 Dec 3, 2013
I'm sure there's more to this story. BTW if you have a lawyer that is readily available to you at any time, then the officer probably needed to look a little further into you and your attitude
stoppn suzy

Charleston, WV

#5 Dec 3, 2013
similar situation with friend that lives in Boone Cty. She was driving alone (at night) on her way to work (she works the night shift). two WV troopers stopped her 'demanded to know where she was going'--while the one trooper refused to answer 'why' they had stopped her, the other trooper said 'its because you were driving in the fast lane', my friend asked, well 'why' can't I drive in the fast lane or either lane I want?'-- then the second wv trooper went around her car and tried to open the passenger side door. when he couldn't get in her car, they told her 'this is a warning don't you drive in the fast lane and then left.' when she got to work she was all shook up. she was scared and said she thought that if her car doors hadn't been locked the troopers would have raped her. we all told her to call and make a report but she wouldn't do it. she said she had to drive that road every night and was afraid they would hurt her.-- I AGREE THE NAZI'S ARE HERE. THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT HAS GOT TO STEP IN AND CLEAN THE STATE OF WEST VIRGINIA UP. NOBODY IS SAFE IN WV ---THE 'SUPPOSEDLY GOOD GUYS' ARE THE BAD GUYS.
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billhilly

Baltimore, MD

#9 Dec 3, 2013
If they are courteous then I will be courteous. If they are an azz, then I will be an azz. They are no better than I am. They just think that they are
THE NAZIS IS HERE

Altavista, VA

#10 Dec 3, 2013
screet wrote:
Something tells me there's more to this story....
How can there be more to the story?????? we was driving to huntington mall to shop for christmas.

The officer was rude. period. this is not communist germany
THE NAZIS IS HERE

Altavista, VA

#11 Dec 3, 2013
Confused wrote:
Shopping for the holidays? Which holiday? Easter, Valentine's Day, St. Patrick's Day, Independence Day, etc. etc.?7
ARE YOU SLOW? RETARDED? WHAT HOLIDAY IS COMING UP?

HELL Ill tell you its "christmas" wow what a rude pitaful person
THE NAZIS IS HERE

Altavista, VA

#12 Dec 3, 2013
Hmmm wrote:
I'm sure there's more to this story. BTW if you have a lawyer that is readily available to you at any time, then the officer probably needed to look a little further into you and your attitude
My attitude, what? and why would he need to look into any thing, he already answered the question I asked him.

basicly it a two way street, no you dont have to id yourself but the officer can still find probable cause. period.

THEY CAN ARREST YOU FOR ANYTHING. GEEZ READ BEFORE YOU SPEAK
the 304

Charleston, WV

#13 Dec 3, 2013
THE NAZIS IS HERE wrote:
<quoted text>ARE YOU SLOW? RETARDED? WHAT HOLIDAY IS COMING UP?

HELL Ill tell you its "christmas" wow what a rude pitaful person
Learn to spell.(Lurn two spail)
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Capn Stik

Chesapeake, VA

#16 Dec 3, 2013
RUN THE NAZIS ARE HERE wrote:
Okay, Here is my story,
Me and a friend was driving to Huntington Wv to do some shopping for the holidays when we got pull over by the Milton Police dept.
The officer that pulled us over was a good officer. Doing his job ect, when out of no where this officer walks up on me on the driver side door and ask me for my I.D.
I honestly didn't have it so I told the officer this, and he ask me for my name all angry, He ask me my name and date of birth, I told him, no biggie right?
no not for the officer, he was getting kinda loud tell me he can pull me out of the car and search me, whick I reply,
Why, what suspicion of a crime you believe I'm involved.
right? That what my lawyers alway told me, He got mad said he could pull me out of the car and find reason to arrest me ect. I said okay officer and started to roll up the window and he told me to leave the passenger window down. WHICH I WAS FREECING, The driver told me to listen to the officer he didn't want no trouble, so I did comply with that hateful officer.
I got home and email my lawyer and this what the told me,
READ WHOLE THING, IT'S FUNNY! Your reply needed to be, "As west Virginia is not a stop-and-ID state, I prefer to keep my information private at this time."
If he demanded your name, you follow with, "Officer, West Virginia is not a stop-and-ID state. Please state what lawful basis you have to demand my name."
At this point, one of two things happens. 1) He doesn't have probable cause to suspect you of a crime. Your refusing to ID doesn't provide him with one. He can jump up and down and shout, turn red in the face, but he can't do anything. He can continue to make demands, but you don't have to comply with them. 2) He has probable cause. He doesn't have to tell you what that is. He can arrest you whether or not you tell him your name.
I think you see the problem here. Since you don't know what he knows and don't know what he's thinking, you don't know if he has probable cause or not. If he arrests you "for not identifying yourself" or tries to claim that he arrested you "because your refusal to ID was suspicious, given him probable cause to arrest", than that's something for your attorney to fight in court. Another claim might be that you're refusing to follow the lawful orders of an officer. Of course, a demand to ID is unlawful under West Virginia law. These are nuances that you and judges and lawyers might know, but many police officers don't. Bottom line, if he thinks he has a good reason to arrest you, you're going downtown no matter whether you're in the right or not.
THIS WHAT HAPPEN TO ARE WAY OF LIFE,
THE NAZIS ARE HERE,
GET AGAINST THE WALL AND SHOW ME YOUR PAPERS!!!!
As long as you compied with the Officers demand, why are you bitchin' now?
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Kenny

Charleston, WV

#18 Dec 3, 2013
THE NAZIS IS HERE wrote:
<quoted text>
How can there be more to the story?????? we was driving to huntington mall to shop for christmas.
The officer was rude. period. this is not communist germany
germans are not communist. neither were Nazis. Jackass
THE NAZIS IS HERE

Roanoke, VA

#19 Dec 3, 2013
George wrote:
You have no idea what a bucket of worms you could have opened up with a wise azzed reply to me. When I got finished with you even your momma wouldn't have anything to do with you.
Like I said, There is no way your a police officer talking like this!!!!

You know how much trouble you could get into if you was by making statements like this?????
THE NAZIS IS HERE

Roanoke, VA

#20 Dec 3, 2013
Capn Stik wrote:
<quoted text>As long as you compied with the Officers demand, why are you bitchin' now?
You dont get it, I did as the officer ask! He was making statements like " I can pull you out of the car and pat you down and find reason to arrest you" which he could of, no bitching, just what I was told is missed up. Not everyone is a criminal.

The point was, It was a traffic stop for speeding, that's it, nothing more, why would he need the passenger I.D.

I wasn't even driving! I was not committing a crime!

He didn't have to act like the supreme commander!
THE NAZIS IS HERE

Roanoke, VA

#21 Dec 3, 2013
the 304 wrote:
<quoted text>
Learn to spell.(Lurn two spail)
There is always a jerk like you, trying to act like they are sooo intelligent, When your probably some fast food worker that has nothing or no one in your pitiful life.
THE NAZIS ARE HERE

Roanoke, VA

#22 Dec 3, 2013
George wrote:
<quoted text> You are lucky I wasn't the officer that stopped you. For being a wise azze I would have pulled you out of the car beat your azze, trumped up a charge that would have given you at least 30 days in jail. If there were repercussions I would have alerted my fellow officers of your name, lic. number and home address. Over the next yr. you would have wished you had cooperated with simple replys.
WOW George, please tell me your name, please! I.D yourself officer!
I DARE YOU!!!!!!!! MAN UP AND TELL ME YOUR NAME AND WHAT FORCE YOU WORK ON. I'M CALLING YOU OUT!!!!!!!
Cops suck

Dunbar, WV

#23 Dec 3, 2013
George wrote:
<quoted text> You are lucky I wasn't the officer that stopped you. For being a wise azze I would have pulled you out of the car beat your azze, trumped up a charge that would have given you at least 30 days in jail. If there were repercussions I would have alerted my fellow officers of your name, lic. number and home address. Over the next yr. you would have wished you had cooperated with simple replys.
One day somebody (not me though) might blow your f'n head off (If we're lucky)
the 304

Charleston, WV

#24 Dec 3, 2013
THE NAZIS ARE HERE wrote:
<quoted text>WOW George, please tell me your name, please! I.D yourself officer!
I DARE YOU!!!!!!!! MAN UP AND TELL ME YOUR NAME AND WHAT FORCE YOU WORK ON. I'M CALLING YOU OUT!!!!!!!
How about a cup of steaming STFU. You're a whiny little c*nt. Your father must be so proud knowing he raised you as a mouthy bitch. Life is full of disappointments and you seem to be one of them. Nobody cares. You just don't get it. Listen up windbag, NO ONE CARES ABOUT YOUIR PATHETIC LIFE. Maybe the next time the police get in your face they'll do us all a favor and lock your ass up. You're so very typical.
THE NAZIS ARE HERE

Altavista, VA

#25 Dec 3, 2013
the 304 wrote:
<quoted text>
How about a cup of steaming STFU. You're a whiny little c*nt. Your father must be so proud knowing he raised you as a mouthy bitch. Life is full of disappointments and you seem to be one of them. Nobody cares. You just don't get it. Listen up windbag, NO ONE CARES ABOUT YOUIR PATHETIC LIFE. Maybe the next time the police get in your face they'll do us all a favor and lock your ass up. You're so very typical.
THEN DONT READ MY POST! YOU DON'T KNOW ME DO YOU? AND AS FOR MY FATHER YOU WOULDN'T WANT TO KNOW HIM, TRUST ME. YOUR THE ONE THAT NEEDS TO FIND SOMEONE FOR THAT ONE BEDROOM TRAILOR YOU LIVE IN WITH YOUR CAT'S.
LET ME GUESS? YOUR ON SSI AND FOODSTAMPS! RIGHT?
THE NAZIS ARE HERE

Altavista, VA

#26 Dec 3, 2013
the 304 wrote:
<quoted text>
How about a cup of steaming STFU. You're a whiny little c*nt. Your father must be so proud knowing he raised you as a mouthy bitch. Life is full of disappointments and you seem to be one of them. Nobody cares. You just don't get it. Listen up windbag, NO ONE CARES ABOUT YOUIR PATHETIC LIFE. Maybe the next time the police get in your face they'll do us all a favor and lock your ass up. You're so very typical.
B.T.W I'm filled up on crazy, go and try to sell some of that crazy to your cat! AKA your best friend. lol. loser!!!!

don't worry, they call you back at McDonald's

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